The meme that might sway my vote towards Bernie Sanders

a reply to: TheTengriist

Let's look at it in terms of purchasing power.

Here's an example...

www.mybudget360.com...

What is important is to look at income in relation to the cost of living. A new home was about twice the annual average income. Today, with the median household income being $50,000 and your typical new home costing $298,000 we are definitely on the more expensive side (6 times annual income versus 2 back in 1938). Look at the new car costs. A new car cost about $860 or half of annual income. Today, a regular car can cost $32,000 and most will need to finance it. Tuition to Harvard was $420 per year and today Harvard tuition is nearly $62,000 with room and board:

originally posted by: onequestion
So what do you think? Does that help you get a better perspective on what Bernie has been talking about?

I think the idea of a second FDR scares me more than the idea of a wild looking old social democrat taking over does. Oh, and WWII got America out of the Great Depression... NOT FDR. The US had a second big recession which it did not fully recover from until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. The rest of the meme are good reasons why FDR was a poor president and nobody who emulates him is fit for the office, in my opinion.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Doesn't Bernies running platform sound very similar?

a reply to: onequestion

It absolutely does, but I don't see it getting him into the White House.

FDR messed up the economy and made the Great Depression last 11 years, instead of 11 months like every other depression that ran its course.

At a time when prices would normally have been falling, the normal price drop during a recession, the gov ( both Hoover and FDR ) kept prices and wages high. Gee I guess there would have been like less income tax and sales tax if any prices might drop.

The union jobs all got raises during the GD. If you were a lefty, the GD was good times. The commies all got government and academe jobs.

Business never knew what the gov would regulate or confiscate next. Not a good time to expand or try something new.

The NRA was famous for its bureaucracy. Journalist Raymond Clapper reported that between 4,000 and 5,000 business practices were prohibited by NRA orders that carried the force of law, which were contained in some 3,000 administrative orders running to over 10 million pages, and supplemented by what Clapper said were "innumerable opinions and directions from national, regional and code boards interpreting and enforcing provisions of the act." There were also "the rules of the code authorities, themselves, each having the force of law and affecting the lives and conduct of millions of persons." Clapper concluded: "It requires no imagination to appreciate the difficulty the business man has in keeping informed of these codes, supplemental codes, code amendments, executive orders, administrative orders, office orders, interpretations, rules, regulations and obiter dicta."[19]
en.wikipedia.org...

People got arrested for trying to compete by lower price or working late.

Maged had been pressing pants for twenty-two years and his low prices and quality work had kept him competitive with larger tailor shops in the better parts of town. The NRA Cleaners and Dyers Code demanded that 40 cents be charged to press a suit. Maged, despite repeated warnings, insisted on charging his customers only 35 cents. “You can’t tell me how to run my business,” Maged insisted. When threatened with jail, he said, “If you can send me to jail, go ahead.” Not only was Maged thrown in jail, he was also slapped with a hundred-dollar fine. “We think that this is the only way to enforce the NRA,” said Abraham Traube, a director of the NRA code authority for the Cleaners and Dyers Board of Trade. “If we did the same thing in New York City we would soon get the whole industry in line.”14

Murphy, Robert (2009-03-31). The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Great Depression and the New Deal (The Politically Incorrect Guides) (Kindle Locations 2104-2110). Regnery Publishing. Kindle Edition.

God help our country if it takes only a simple internet meme to sway the vote in any direction.

a reply to: onequestion

"...the grand promise of an end to the suffering was never fulfilled. As the state sector drained the private sector, controlling it in alarming detail, the economy continued to wallow in depression. The combined impact of Herbert Hoover's and Roosevelt's interventions meant that the market was never allowed to correct itself. Far from having gotten us out of the Depression, FDR prolonged and deepened it, and brought unnecessary suffering to millions."

-Robert Higgs

im beside myself here.

Bernie is as anti 2nd as any candidate I ever seen....and despite that, he still seems like the least evil of all candidates.

Dammit.

originally posted by: onequestion

And let's not forget, stole America's gold.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Erm... Bernie's actually not that bad when it comes to the second. No worse than Obama, at least. Plus, with a Sanders presidency, we may finally see something done about the 4th.

a reply to: onequestion

More than likely he extended the great depression.

Except he did none of those things.

originally posted by: onequestion
Came across this on our most beloved social media site. Just kidding... But check it out...

So what do you think? Does that help you get a better perspective on what Bernie has been talking about?

Anyway, cool meme.

His policies in fact deepened the depression, and made it last over a decade instead of a market correction then back to it.

FDR was in fact the closest to a tyrant king America has seen since 1776.

They passed the term limit law after he died because of him.

How do you not know this stuff?

You always seem so well read and thoughtful most of the time.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: SaturnFX

I was with you until you said wage gap myth.

And you know what I'm afraid of?

Someone stepping into the arena that suddenly takes power and no one saw it coming because America is ready for change...

It's just like pre war Germany and the Weimar Republic.

I fear that as well, but I don't think it will happen with this election. I theorize that this election, will, however, be such a mess that it will lead to election of a destructive out-lier in 2020. My guess is this election decides little to nothing, but come 2020? Watch out! And the situation will be aggravated by a recession/depression that will commence in 2018. That which we've known as "Constitutional" government in the US will be rent asunder.

originally posted by: Awen24

If you're basing your choice for president on a meme, you probably deserve the president you get.

This is precisely the reason we are in the situation we are in.

People are so easily manipulated it's frankly embarrassing.

a reply to: onequestion

If memes are capable of swaying votes, then the people of this country are much further gone than I thought.

originally posted by: SaturnFX
Sanders doesn't scare me at all, I actually am leaning towards him over anyone, but I know he will not be effective at all. both D and R will block anything he tries just to make sure nothing is accomplished.

That sounds like a good reason to vote for him. Gridlocking the system.

Every bill that has been passed in recent memory has been the exact opposite of the title of the bill... at least since the "Patriot Act"....

A man is not defined by his words, but by his actions.

It used to be, you could believe someone's words, because a man was only as good as his word.

Now a days, words are lies. Look at the actions of those vying for your votes, that will tell you who and what you are voting to elect to lead the country.

Actions speak louder then words.

a reply to: NthOther

Oh give me a break just because it's a meme means it can't have any relevant information right?

a reply to: Sargeras

Because I've always seen politics as bull# and I've never interested until the last year or two.