Baddogma's Meta Cafe- Polite Discussions About Scientific Mysticism and General Weirdness

a reply to: Reverbs

The definition problem, an integral from ... to ... is the healthiest approach.
Also with the "Jesus issue".
To tell you a secret, disguised as opinion, it's a common thing. Look around think about what they all are not telling, because it immediately gets labeled "crazy".
Once the reputation is gone you're free to move on.
I am a half-alien, anti-christ, mk-ultra victim. None of that is something I take serious, but it helps writing the tales.

Enjoy your coffee, make your thread, I would enjoy it, I'm sure.

a reply to: Peeple

mm yes you get it.

won't be today I have to go through and gather things.

but that thread I linked earlier:

Black Triangles


and this thread:

Matter, Energy


too lazy to explain, my brain is insane, thinking is not in my lane I must refrain before I feel disdain, but I can't complain, I'm on a plane, I can't complain.
yea I don't remember last night the memories I do have don't seem to logically fit together.. LOL

I guess it's more or less a goose chase without me explaining it, but I think I have to save that for the thread..

Sorry for being such a tease.

both threads could have you catching a cold...

a reply to: Reverbs

The first I find interesting, the second is on the ignore list.
Did he ever get to the point, why should I read that?

a reply to: Peeple

he never gets to a point. Hahaha, but I think I explained that already.

I recognize when people are telling multiple stories at once. They may or may not know they are doing it.
He is definitely doing it on purpose. He even admits it multiple times, in his own funny way.

ignore the overlayed mythology, the same way you can ignore the word angel or alien too.. As in the plot of his story has zero point except to him..

It's just a vehicle. Some of the coded information in that second "pointless boring" thread shows up again in the black triangle thread..




LOL I just started re-reading I didn't realize you saw that thread live haha..
now that's kind of a funny coincidence. Maybe this is information you are looking for?

a reply to: Reverbs

Nah, thanks. I find that annoying, that's just some guy masturbating.
If you'd want to talk me into having a second look, you will have to try harder.

a reply to: Peeple

I don't care what you do, like not even a little bit, haha

you said you wanted to read so I was just thinking outloud for you.

Both threads involve mind control.
Both threads show differences in people who "break through"

Not for you..
got it..
Moving on..

but now a new point comes to mind..
You may wish to reconcile your points of view.

To tell you a secret, disguised as opinion, it's a common thing. Look around think about what they all are not telling, because it immediately gets labeled "crazy".
Once the reputation is gone you're free to move on.
I am a half-alien, anti-christ, mk-ultra victim. None of that is something I take serious, but it helps writing the tales.

Is Exactly what you are going against in someone elses postings.. Don't you get it?

Gawd if I stopped talking in code and said what really happened to me in the last 2 years I'd probably be dead..

Anyway high grade information is only useful to you if you can apply it.. You can only apply it if you figure it out, you can't be told.

the one thing wrong you said in that quote is that once reputation is gone you are free.. That's so far from the truth.. There are other things that cause one to code information.. You call it masterbation others call it mythology, you call it tales, I call it threads.. It's a tangled web of non sense if you don't follow the line.. Thread the needle..

but again I honestly don't care what anyone else thinks or does, except as a personal ego gratification of being able to share my own experiences.. I don't need anything.


I'm just here for the ride.

a reply to: Reverbs

I know. Challenging, right?
Sorry to having bothered you, it's just who I am
Annoying, irritating and difficult.
In real life as here.

Point is this mind control, aliens and government stuff might be to some extent true. All of it might be.
There are just some parts of it I don't care about.
Denial of some sort. Pretty sure yes.
So I get playfull.

a reply to: Peeple

I'm not bothered..

I'm just a bit more blunt than most lol.

like you.



I skipped coffee and opened a beer instead haha and I'm searching for job postings and listening to all of my exes music and laughing at the universe being funky all at once.

Today is a dangerous day for anyone near reverbs.. my inner Loki is coming out.



on the topic of Loki.. Lowkey

a reply to: Reverbs

Where's your thread? More coffee needed?

Fun thing with these pieces of writing, they can get pretty demanding. The moment you start to go over it again and again. Am I making sense, Reverbs?

a reply to: Peeple

If I post it you do realize it will be masturbation and coded messages.

Actually to do what the point of the thread should be I have to go hunting for hours through ATS to find things I have written. I've been researching ATS mysteries specifically involving me specifically in just the last year, and it's taken forever to find all my memories.. Still more to go, to make sure I get it all right.

I want to show an independent data stream of my life and my own experiences that led me to where I am and link it to those two threads and a few others that came later than my thoughts but say the same as me..

but because I'm going to code it to one level or another I'm not sure it's worth it.

so instead I'll just say...

here's a PM.

a reply to: Reverbs

Go get them, tiger.

As you might have noticed I am also not sober.

For the record, no PM. Did you forget to send, or does the universe 404 me again?

a reply to: Peeple

patience really is a virtue. I posted that and then had to write a PM..

You has it now.



and I'm an alcoholic having finished one beer. I'd have way more of a buzz with a cup of coffee..

But today is a lazy free day so I'll just milk it and ponder life and make weird connections find some new music and just generally love everything about my silly life.

hahaha




PMs to me and PMS to you stay private please.

a reply to: Reverbs

Got it.

But you're still pretty anonymous on here and if my opinion counts, you also could have said that publicly.

Alcohol is poison, that's the one thing I really don't like. People get hooked on it, because it's always available. Hate me for saying that, but if you have problems with it, that's the most boring, "mental issue" you can get. Bourgeois too.
Welcome to the norm.

I am not, I am drug hopping. If that's better or worse, is not topic of this discussion.
But you are normal.

a reply to: Peeple

no one is anonymous on here.. I've figured out who 6 people are not counting people who have let me know..
People have figured out who I was.. I've said quite specific things about my military history and DHS history.. Anyone who looks at that will know exactly who I am..

a few people wrote my name on here.. Wish they hadn't. ATS is NOT all rainbows and butterflies.. There was this cult of people on here for a bit who were trying to figure out peoples balance of meletonin seretonin in very coded posts.. I fell for it well, I was acting.. I was researching from people who were phishing.. I was fishing for phishers..

Dude death threats are not fun..

I told ATS I was going to the FBI at one point. Filled out some forms even, but then I realized there was no way I could explain to them without all of this turning into bad for me..

I mean have you ever had cops fight you to the point they call for back up and they plant a weapon on you and then there is no police report after??

And yea I like my alcohol. And I'm mostly normal like everybody else, but I do have my own set of unique thoughts that have made me aware of much bigger games than world trade centers and money laundering. I am uniqe in my own ways.

In fact I will risk it all to get back closer to the game again.. What a wild ride. but for now I am on a LONG vacation.




and I PMed you because I don't want to give away the thread and
the main reason was that guess what that top part of the PM was from someone else PMing me, so that left my desk to yours without their permission.. So at least that's better than making a PM public without permision.
yea?

a reply to: Peeple

and for the record my alcoholism is like my view on world events. meh whatever...

LOL

you know sometimes I drink sometimes I don't.. I don't get cravings it's just like whatever.. And then if I don't drink enough I start having issues, but until I feel withdrawal alcohol is not my concern... I learned that trick with herbs long ago. It actually relates to my patience as well. I don't really crave things. I don't really have an inner motivator thingy...

you know that feeling like "oh # I need to wake up I need to go make coffee are my clothes dry ahh I need a shower!!"
ok ready for work, I'm hungry ill grab something on the way
hungry.. hungry.. "oohh mcdonalds!"

yea I don't have that guy.. He got murdered or something I don't know..
It's like I'm too chill for addictions to take that path.

Problem is my body actually needs it.. It's my new anti seizure medication because otherwise my GABA and epinephrin and norepinephrin and acetylcholine and whatever else will have all their levels jacked up or down to prevent my body succombing to an expected 24 beers worth of central nervous system depressing power.. So they're ready to keep me alive.. Problem is that 24 expected beers might be 0 and then the only fun effect of that is I'm basically a super hero who doesn't need sleep, until my neuro chemistry and lack of REM sleep has me all out of whack..

Besides that I would give up drinking..

But honestly we are good pals..

most people at my level have an abusive relationship where alcohol just beats them up.. I don't know it's upliftnig to me.

I do recommend and agree with your strategy though.
use different things and you never really etch a solid line in your brain that says "I need this ONE thing nothing else is like it and I want to re experience that lost feeling!"

but I get nostalgic over everything... So I get addicted to anything really.
ATS is super addictive

this song seems fitting:

originally posted by: Reverbs

and I PMed you because I don't want to give away the thread and
the main reason was that guess what that top part of the PM was from someone else PMing me, so that left my desk to yours without their permission.. So at least that's better than making a PM public without permision.
yea?

You know stuff like that just makes me want to "make it public"?
Not saying I will just thought I point that out for further interaction.

Fun fact about me I don't care for secrets. If you got something you make it available.
And to add a little raised index,
Are you trying to be occult?


Which is funny, because it is the opposite of what I do. I use it as a testimony of the weird things which happened to me. In case I suddenly disappear.
That would be fun, right. Get kidnapped and yelling "Yes, yes, I told you so."

I am pretty sure writing on a weird forum alone, wouldn't be enough. So what, right? I am just thinking and asking questions. Every thing else would appear paranoid to me.
But wtf do I know

a reply to: Peeple

I'm obviously not trying to be occult.

but me and you feel very different about secrets in fact I think you don't realize what you are saying to be honest.

Live in a glass house in the middlw of town naked..

Why do you hide behind an avatar?

Show all the little girls your naked body and tell the cops what drugs you're on..
Show me your medical records, taxes and bank acount details as well, and let me have your social security number or equivelent and your ATS password please.
you're keeping secrets dude.
And for good reason..

Secret societies are about perserving information... They had to be secret to explore secrets... You could look at motivations of people who code their posts like that.. Shoutouts to the early christians who coded their work behind silly bible stories.. Why did they secret that? To survive the romans.. We live in the new Rome. Or at least I do.


Your old avatar
makes me think
you can lead a horse to water
but you can't make him drink





This conversation went stale,
the point beyond the pale,
lost in talk talk,
like chalk on my pavement.

Maybe I'll think of some new goodies to add later..

haha

a reply to: Peeple

How about this new thread for instance..

That thing I was talking about earlier "how to control reality"

conservation of entanglement

mm I have some reading to do just skimmed through.

I call it related loosely for now..

mix it back into what I was hinting at with those other two threads with a little aldous huxley "your brain is a reducing valve" and it's a fun little mix of ideas to explore when keeping in mind that space/time is a persistent illusion..

a reply to: Reverbs

I don't know how you come to the conclusion, reality is an illusion.
How did that happen?
Our reality is made up of tinier things acting strage, is not that new.
And the thing about our brain not picking up on everything there is, just what's usefully to our survival, that's a fact we can agree on, if I understood you right?
I am more a "consument" than a thinker in science stuff.
Blow my mind, but I obviously suck at that, so why bother trying to contribute to a discussion out of my reach?
Sure I got my wow moments, but later I noticed that was mostly me finally getting it, then the next stage with already asked questions opened up.

a reply to: Peeple

I didn't say reality I said space time. That was an einstein quote. If you read the last thread I posted it pretty well explains that.

or

How does entanglement work?

It works because the singularity is already there.. This is it "spread out" so no things don't effect each other faster than the speed of light that would be silly.. Don't get stuck in one kind of concept. The Math agrees with me so far that there are other dimensions.. people who refuse to give up 3d space have to make the other dimensions wrapped up into infinitely small points INSIDE 3d... That's silly pretzel twisty logic.. Just make 3d encapsulated inside the other "degrees of freedom" Now you see why things can warp and be in more than one place at once.. You just discovered the "un-manifest"

the other threads were exactly about reality being an illusion, because in the black triangle thread signals can be told to someones brain that say "there is not a giant thing floating in the sky." I expereinced that but it didn't work on me, then they got me at the end when I was like "I will stare at the ground now" and the craft dissapeared.. How dumb is that? the most crazy thing of my entire life is happening and I'm staring at sand.. I basically "had my head in the sand"

You see there is a link to brain chemistry and nerve endings and basically your brain is making up what you think reality is.. But your brain is not your only way of using "mind"

you keep using language to reduce and simplify but that's not the answer man.. You can say 'this is a leaf" and I'll be like no dude that's carbon hydrogen and oxygen elements arranged in patterns like that.. Someone else will say it's actually glucose and celulose and chloraphyl... They're just different descriptions of the same thing (re- reality is just tinier things) It is that but it's other things too.. This is what I call being stuck on lables and why I use many different words to say the same thing.. atoms are not solid they are made up of nothing basically.. This is part of an illsuion.. it's force fields that make you think solid even exists in the first place.. And when solid doesn't you melt through the wall.. obviously not if you have electrons wiht a negative charge... but what if you happen to be made of dark matter? Dark matter proves the illusion.. almost the entire universe is unobservable in any way shape or form...

I can tell your brain doesn't like to think unless there is a track. Me and you will never communicate well cause I don't like tracks I like warping self arranging spiderwebs, tracks can dead end, like the track of assuming reality is real for instance, because if that ever turns out to be a bad assumption everything before that is pretty useless. It gives you goofy dead end ideas like FTL travel when really that craft was here the whole time... eh?