Why would anyone on ATS support Trump??

It seems today on ATS just like every time election comes around on ATS that the candidates dominate the forums although as a Brit I do find this rather annoying if I can’t beat em’ I might as well join them. So with that said I have been taking part in the odd thread every now and then that sparks my interest most of which as concerned one particularly conversional candidate.

Donald Trump.

Every time I enter into one of these threads I am struck by the same thought and I think it is about time I let it out and ask this question.

Why would anyone on ATS support trump?

The reason I ask this is very simple, ATS up until even last year if I recall was awash with threads about the “1%”, it’s a common theme throughout ATS where we discuss the “Elite” and their “Agenda”. There is lots of talk of an elitist New World Order who amass wealth and power to squash the little guy. To me trump is the perfect embodiment of this spectre, a man who only seems to be interested in amassing wealth and power for his on personal gain to me Trump is no better than a Rothschild, Winsor the Bush family and so on.

With that said then I don’t understand why people on ATS seem to be supporting him, surly he is “one of them”.

Now yes I know there are many on ATS who would argue that they don’t believe in the New World Order or some kind of nefarious elitist secret society (to be clear I don’t believe either) so perhaps this thread is not so much target at you. However there seems to be quite a lot of support for this man who seems to fit the bill for one of the “elite” so why do ATS members support him?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I just want to know why people believe him.

Good luck with the thread.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I ask myself the same thing about ATS and Clinton...

originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I ask myself the same thing about ATS and Clinton...

Came to say the same thing.

originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I ask myself the same thing about ATS and Clinton...

Totally agree with you but I am asking specifically about Trump

And it does not answer my question this is not me trying to bash trump rather I am just trying to understand who some of the very people who post against the 1% and the elites now also seem to be supporting Trump who to me is the embodiment of the elitist 1%

Because he is not a career politician spewing the same drivel that is put in front of the US election cycle after election cycle. We are stuck with the lesser of the two evils regardless so lets get one that might actually do something interesting for a change. It can't get much worse than what hope and change has already done, so lets do this thing already!

If he's "one of them", then that surely makes all of them "one of them" and in that case what does one do?

Vote for the one who is least like "one of them"? I don't know. He's not a career politician and that is a departure from the status quo. I, myself have never seen non career politician make it to the White House.

Just my guess. I suppose everyone has their own personal reasons.

ETA - As others have said... If it comes down to Hillary or Trump, well... I can tell you who I won't be voting for and it's the career politician. In a utopia, we would have better choices, but alas...

a reply to: jjkenobi

Easy, Clinton or Trump?


as mentioned a hundred times before, my vote matters not,


But if so, Trump.

a reply to: SpaDe_

Because he is not a career politician spewing the same drivel that is put in front of the US election cycle after election cycle.

But he has been rubbing shoulders with politicians for decades now, I don't see how him have zero experience as a politician would make him a good candidate.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

because people are sick of groundhog days...

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

How did Obama having 0 experience make him a good candidate and by some peoples account a good president?
Answer that question and you answer both.

To me he screams controlled opposition.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: daaskapital
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I ask myself the same thing about ATS and Clinton...

Totally agree with you but I am asking specifically about Trump

And it does not answer my question this is not me trying to bash trump rather I am just trying to understand who some of the very people who post against the 1% and the elites now also seem to be supporting Trump who to me is the embodiment of the elitist 1%

Fair enough. Apologies for the off-handed derailment.

If i had to guess, i would say that most ATS members don't really want to support any major candidate. If there is one who does get most of the support here though, it would be Sanders. I've seen more pro-Sanders comments than pro-Trump.

As far as Trump is concerned, i think he is popular because he is saying what many people like to hear. I also think it's due to the fact that the USA has had a democrat in the White House for years now and people already know of Hillary Clinton's record in government...

Really, if most people don't want to support the likely democrat representative, Clinton, then they're forced to either hope for Sanders or vote republican or independent.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

He has fully admitted to doing that. He has also fully admitted that he has made sizable donations to candidates in the past as a way to curry/buy favor with them. This is why he is footing the bill for his own campaign. He will not owe anyone "favors" for their donations later on down the road. He knows the game and has played it and is seemingly trying to keep that from happening to himself should he actually make it to the White House.

Whether that's believable or not? Who really knows?

I support Trump because it is right to support the next POTUS, accept if that next POTUS is Hillary.

a reply to: SpaDe_

THE QUESTION OF THE DECADE....

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think it's basic ignorance, stubbornness, and a simple belligerence; they want "anyone" but someone already in government. Hell, Trump could name Kim Kardashian as Secretary of State and they'd STILL think it was a good idea.

They don't listen, and don't see how ridiculous he is, because they REFUSE to. That is my opinion. Bunch of
oppositional/defiant conduct-disordered people who either don't know how to learn, or don't care to.

In a climate where so many people are just done with career politicians Donald Trump appeared at the right time. I don't think there's anything particularly special about the Donald other than he's not a career politician and he's telling career politicians to shove it. That's enough right now to catapult him to the top. It's too bad Ross Perot didn't have this kind of timing.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I will be honest here. My thoughts are, Hillary cannot protect an embassy (among a plethora of other things she is completely unable to do and stands for) so how can we expect her to protect a nation. And lets face it, her biggest adviser was impeached (among a plethora of other bad things during his presidency) We have already seen what they will do for this country, and I am having none of it.

Sanders, an open socialist running for president on a democratic ticket. I am simply not going that route, I prefer freedom over socialist policies.

My true pick, the one I like the most and agree with the most, is Ben Carson. I love his politics and would vote for him in a heartbeat. But the fact is, Obama ruined it for black men everywhere for a while at least, and he is too quiet, cannot keep his name in the news and people will not flock behind him for those reasons, regardless of his politics - so throwing my vote to him is simply throwing away my vote, from what I can tell, and I do find that sad honestly.

That leaves Trump and Cruiz who the real votes will probably go to. I would honestly like to see a ticket with both on them, one as vice and the other as president, as they both have something real to offer, that people will get behind.

I will vote for whoever looks like they win actually win. If it means Trump then honestly, I don't have a problem with that. He speaks his mind, and he is at least mostly correct, has good business sense and I would like to see more of that in government. He can make positive economic changes in this country, and get us as a country economically on a much better track than the one we are on - should he put his mind to it.

Basically, anything to keep socialism out of American government, I definitely prefer the republic and freedom. Socialism doesn't work, and I will vote if only to vote against that road that we have lately been taking in this country.

The republican party let us down, the democratic party let us down.. and Trump better represents me, of all those who might actually win.

originally posted by: SpaDe_
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

How did Obama having 0 experience make him a good candidate and by some peoples account a good president?
Answer that question and you answer both.

Well to be fair I asked you about Trump not Obama to me turning the question around like this is deflection.

So how is it that Trump having zero political experience makes him a good choice as a political candidate?