This is how to make world wide desclosure

a reply to: andre18

There are particles called neutrinos that we know exist from measurement but have no real way of physically interacting with them. Essentially they are believed to exist in another dimension we cant interact with.

Not so fast. Scientists recently transfered a message using a beam of nutrinos. The message was sent through 240 meters of stone and said simply, "Neutrino." Source: Neutrino message

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Perhaps you ought to look up what 'evidence' means.

Perhaps you should do likewise -what type of evidence were you specifically seeking?

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Very true, i can only say from what ive seen in the videos that the aliens that have contacted the mediums appear loving and friendly. Also, you will find if you watch the videos of channeling Eric, that channeling also allows a contact with souls from the after life. I'm vaguely aware that yes aliens of bad intent can contact you though this process, but that's the same as meeting anyone in life, you have to be brave and investigate what's out there. In the same sense, if we heard tomorrow from NASA alien radio signals had actually been received, would that stop us from saying hello in fear of what's out there?

Not sure if it's channeling or not, but I can sort of go into a highly relaxed state, and just "let" whatever happens, happen. I can have people ask me questions and it sounds identical to what these people say. I don't get the impression any "entity" is talking through me though, it feels more like my subconscious is doing it. Sort of like I'm half awake, half sleeping and I'm just messing around and giving cryptic, mystical, fantastic sounding answers. There's no "I am TARKON, I am HE. Ask and I shall reveal!" or anything of that nature.

This is why I get the distinct impression these people aren't really "communicating" with anything besides their imagination and their subconscious. They may really believe they are, and they probably have themselves convinced they are...but I think they want to so badly that they've convinced themselves they have.

Hell, if I can "do it" convincingly enough to fool and freak out my friends...I'm pretty sure anyone can.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Perhaps you should do likewise -what type of evidence were you specifically seeking

Something that can be objectively verified. For example, instead of generic "love thy neighbor" messages, perhaps the alien intelligence could provide directions for building something beyond our current technology, or even tell us where to find some sort of deep space anomaly that has not yet been discovered. Something that shows that the channel has access to information of a trans-human kind.

I got about 5 minutes into the first video before I saw no more point in listening to a liar who may also be crazy. I skipped about and saw no particular moments of interest or difference in either of the films.

People will fool you. There are some who make a living out of it. This woman is playing the role of the same charlatan medium you've seen in tents with crystal balls. I've met people that can spew fantasy like this and more often than not, they skipped their medication or need to be on some. I've met people who simply love when you're believing them, whatever the subject and then they "feed" on that.

a reply to: andre18

What makes you think you know what the majority are able to accept?

what make you think you know what humanity are unable to accept?

I gota say, that's pretty arrogant.

You mean like this what you posted

From the close mindedness of the average person

So look at the first two videos, actually watch them, and tell me what you make of the emotion coming off them, how they interact, if it looks genuine or not.

Do you know what the Oscars and Golden globe awards are for?

Do you believe a person can act in an attempt to deceive for a certain agenda?

it's about using your intuition.

Yes and some have their intuition a little out of balance due to their own personal beliefs.

Fair enough if you were face to face with a so called channeler and they revealed info that was privy to you and maybe someone that had passed then I guess yes it would be easy for one to believe but from watching a video you seem convinced which makes me doubt your intuition is intuition at all and simply just a desperate need to have a belief you hold validated.

a reply to: andre18

I have a different philosophy because to me, it's been disclosed and has been for decades. You know nothing of my experiences and I don't share them openly on a forum that does nothing but lunge when their idea of truth is tested. They exist, they are and have been here, and those who bear witness and interaction do so with purpose.

As for myself, I understand the need for gradual disclosure, which has been happening for years. The are behind the very technology that allows us to now capture their travels and record it.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
This is why I get the distinct impression these people aren't really "communicating" with anything besides their imagination and their subconscious. They may really believe they are, and they probably have themselves convinced they are...but I think they want to so badly that they've convinced themselves they have.

This.

What I like to refer to as the "2012 Fiasco" supports the idea that these channellers are making it all up, whether they realise that or not.

a reply to: andre18

Odd.

I think channellers hurt whatever chance there is to get "desclosure".

I wrote a thread about it 5 years ago in fact..

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Funny that nothing's changed huh?

They're all full of empty promises and clichés.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
es you think you know what the majority are able to accept?
what make you think you know what humanity are unable to accept?

Because of the narrow mindedness of what people collectively accept the scientific establishment says is so, as well as the other polar opposite spectrum that is religion, that retaliates against anything outside doctrine.

So look at the first two videos, actually watch them, and tell me what you make of the emotion coming off them, how they interact, if it looks genuine or not.
Do you know what the Oscars and Golden globe awards are for?

You can apply that to any aspect of human life, there are those that will project a deception and the key to identifying it, is my knowing what love is and feeling them out that they are too feeling the same. If you can't do that, then you're not able to follow your intuition where by you're then only able to use your mind, and logic is easily massaged if you have a big enough ego.

Yes and some have their intuition a little out of balance due to their own personal beliefs.

Yes, but what you're not identifying, is that your beliefs are meant to be formed as a result of your intuition - by which mine follow. It's not that i want to believe in channeling and then push my self into accepting it because the messages that come out of it are all nice and fluffy, but because there is a feeling that can be experienced through love - as fanciful as that comes off, it helps identify what is crap and what is legitimate. What i'm unable to explained to you is how you can comprehend this if you haven't felt it, because it completely depends on a person to person level. And only a month ago i would have been in your corner without a second thought.

Fair enough if you were face to face with a so called channeler and they revealed info that was privy to you and maybe someone that had passed then I guess yes it would be easy for one to believe but from watching a video you seem convinced which makes me doubt your intuition is intuition at all and simply just a desperate need to have a belief you hold validated.

I agree that face to face allows the experience to be felt more strongly, however, when watching footage of people projecting authentic joy, i really can't type anyone else to you, other then i can pick it up and tell the difference, and if you cant, that tells me you don't really know how to listen to your feelings enough to know what is authentic and what isnt. And of course this is highly insinuative of me to imply some superiority of intuition, and so nothing can be argued between other then i feel one thing and you another.

a reply to: andre18

And of course this is highly insinuative of me to imply some superiority of intuition, and so nothing can be argued between other then i feel one thing and you another.

What does your intuition tell you about your incorrect use of the word "then" in your post? Can you use your intuition alone to make the correction?

a reply to: DJW001

I see that no one has replied to your post; I was going to post the same thing.

Until someone channels something unknown to science, as you mentioned, it is all bunk.

"Well, the aliens want us to love each other, but they don't want to give us too much information" is just a bunch of you-know-what.

Tell us how to build/find/calculate something that we don't currently know how to do.

a reply to: andre18

Because of the narrow mindedness of what people collectively accept the scientific establishment says is so, as well as the other polar opposite spectrum that is religion, that retaliates against anything outside doctrine.

I think its quite narrow minded to see science and religion as such and as people collectively accepting what you think they are.

That narrow mindedness is what allows you validate your belief in such a view of what people collectively believe or accept.

Have you thought about from the scientific view point that many accept what is established because they understand how its been established?

Have you thought about that people might conform to religious doctrine due to it fitting with their personal lives or do you need to use collectivism to validate your narrow minded views?

What i'm unable to explained to you is how you can comprehend this if you haven't felt it, because it completely depends on a person to person level. And only a month ago i would have been in your corner without a second thought.

What corner might that be?


I have felt it.

I have felt it so intensely to know that for one to video themselves is nothing but seeking attention and validation from anyone that might the intuition to believe their attention seeking.

when watching footage of people projecting authentic joy, i really can't type anyone else to you, other then i can pick it up and tell the difference, and if you cant, that tells me you don't really know how to listen to your feelings enough to know what is authentic and what isnt. And of course this is highly insinuative of me to imply some superiority of intuition, and so nothing can be argued between other then i feel one thing and you another.

I can watch porn and tell if its real orgasm or not as well, so I guess I will agree that nothing can be argued other than our intuition tells us the opposite.

Was it your intuition to leap to aliens after seeing confused looking people at a shopping center?

Or was there more to it?

When I said some peoples intuition might be out of balance due to what they believe in my last post and to add know it could also be due what they intake, information wise, I meant that my intuition was telling me yours was out of whack, not balanced.

Use of certain substances also makes one think they are more in touch with themselves and their intuition when in fact they are so far out of balance.

Anyway, I guess you feel the force the way you do and I feel it the way I do like you said, No arguments about that.

originally posted by: TommyD1966
a reply to: DJW001

I see that no one has replied to your post; I was going to post the same thing.

Until someone channels something unknown to science, as you mentioned, it is all bunk.

"Well, the aliens want us to love each other, but they don't want to give us too much information" is just a bunch of you-know-what.

Tell us how to build/find/calculate something that we don't currently know how to do.

Happy now?

originally posted by: andre18

originally posted by: TommyD1966
a reply to: DJW001

I see that no one has replied to your post; I was going to post the same thing.

Until someone channels something unknown to science, as you mentioned, it is all bunk.

"Well, the aliens want us to love each other, but they don't want to give us too much information" is just a bunch of you-know-what.

Tell us how to build/find/calculate something that we don't currently know how to do.

Happy now?

Rather than waste my time by watching his comedic acting, why don't you tell me specifically what Bashar said and how it was independently verified?

a reply to: andre18

Happy now?

I don't think you're going to be.

Apparently the "Bashar phenom has popped up again on ATS in spite of this, www.abovetopsecret.com...

This thread is to inform everyone that going forward any thread presenting the Bashar stuff will be moved to the HOAX Forum right along side Blossom Goodchild and the rest of the wannabe internet hoaxers.

To be clear, discussing the hoax, the phenom, etc... is OK but presenting the content as evidence of ANYTHING, or, trying to spread this bollocks will result in an instant move to the dread ATS HOAX Forum.

Thanks.

Springer...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

I had no idea ATS was so prone to rejecting truth. How unfortunate. The one message board where conspiracies run rampant and the most important information to be revealed is considered a hoax. Very sad.

I may have to hit hard back with future threads in an effort provide more information, in a more palatable format suited to the ATS crowd.

originally posted by: andre18

originally posted by: TommyD1966
a reply to: DJW001

I see that no one has replied to your post; I was going to post the same thing.

Until someone channels something unknown to science, as you mentioned, it is all bunk.

"Well, the aliens want us to love each other, but they don't want to give us too much information" is just a bunch of you-know-what.

Tell us how to build/find/calculate something that we don't currently know how to do.

Happy now?

yes very happy,

thanks for the laugh.

Or was this a serious post.

Bashar.....

Look I tend to have similar views about much of what is suggested by many new age gurus, channelers and what not that preach about the positive side of things and the oneness we all share, but its just a little to obvious that advertising oneself as such is either a person deluded (yes they might have had a profound experience the made them feel they need to speak out but have taken the wrong path like most do that need to advertise themselves) or they are simply deceiving for financial gain through a number of avenues.

I believe that if someone that believes in themselves and the messages of deeper knowledge on a universal scale would go about serving the people with their truth in a more personal way and would not need any media attention even though they would receive it if they were the real deal.

A real channeler of light so to speak wouldn't guide others with their words but their actions.

These Bozo's on Youtube and other alternative sites that share interviews with so called insiders and whistleblowers have ulterior motives, they are guided by something not pure, they are guided more by their minds (their deceived minds or inquisitive minds wanting to validate what they believe is true) instead of their hearts if any really are guided by their hearts at the beginning of their quests, others have taken ques from these types of activities and how it can influence and make money and have made a good living for themselves through deceiving believers who hold new age ideas or old age philosophy for the new age.


The rise of technology and the internet is great on one hand but on the other its a tool used for agendas of manipulating minds by those that can profit from it.

Hence why I think one wont find truth of such things like the paranormal on the internet.

I had no idea ATS was so prone to rejecting truth. How unfortunate. The one message board where conspiracies run rampant and the most important information to be revealed is considered a hoax. Very sad.

What makes it truth?


like may before you, many have said Bashar is the truth, yet none have the ability to reasonably explain why other that it feels right.

Like I said I agree with many things that Bashar and others like him speak about, yes it feels right and feels like truth, but its not original and has been spoken about for a long time, ancient philosophies just rehashed for a new age is all it is.

Its not channeling, and by these people claiming they are, just points to them being frauds or taking their beliefs to a deluded state.

a reply to: andre18

I may have to hit hard back with future threads in an effort provide more information, in a more palatable format suited to the ATS crowd.

You do that. I hope it includes your anxiously awaited interview with the alien shoplifters.