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originally posted by: freedomSlave
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
University of Minnesota to Stop Using Race in Crime Alert Suspect Descriptions
editions.lib.umn.edu...
Racial profiling does not refer to the act of a law enforcement agent pursuing a suspect in which the specific description of the suspect includes race or ethnicity in combination with other identifying factors.
www.aclu.org...
Here we have no other identifying factors.
ok fair enough I didn't realize her stance on it the issue .. Can't help to shake my head as to why she ever thought that providing the description of race was irrelevant. Thanks for providing a little more story than the op. ETA Not really sure how this is considered racial profiling .
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: xuenchen
How is it ironic?
It should be obvious all blacks should be looked at as criminals. Just like all people from the ME should be considered Muslim and are terrorist. This is the kind of crap that FOX and other neoconservative groups try to get people to believe.
Racial profiling does not refer to the act of a law enforcement agent pursuing a suspect in which the specific description of the suspect includes race or ethnicity in combination with other identifying factors.
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: queenofswords
It reminds me of an atheist that rages against a belief in God, but in a shtf scenario, what's the first thing many of them do? Pray.
Have you ever seen this happen?
Or are you simply saying so because you know that it is what you, put in that position, would do yourself?
This is a racist thread, and for all that I uphold the rights of the OP to post it, it is disgusting and contemptible. It is also exactly what we have come to expect from the thread starter.
originally posted by: Nyiah
I'm no expert, but I believe this to mean the official victim statement should contain physical characteristics like scars, piercings, tats, or at least clothing colors to not be considered profiling. I.e identifiers other than just race.
Unless someone can come up with a copy of the police report with only "black guys robbed us" in it, I'm giving her a pass on this.
originally posted by: intrepid
This wasn't racial profiling, it was suspect identification. BIG difference.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Nyiah
I'm no expert, but I believe this to mean the official victim statement should contain physical characteristics like scars, piercings, tats, or at least clothing colors to not be considered profiling. I.e identifiers other than just race.
Unless someone can come up with a copy of the police report with only "black guys robbed us" in it, I'm giving her a pass on this.
Your understanding is correct. This Judge spent her life saying you can NEVER just say race without other identifiers such as those you listed (and I also listed, look back at my post, I said you must use an identifier such as a tattoo). So, what physical characteristics did she use? None according to the story. Which means she spent her life saying what she just did was racist.
Utter crap. Stuff like that sets race relations BACK in my opinion.
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Nyiah
I'm no expert, but I believe this to mean the official victim statement should contain physical characteristics like scars, piercings, tats, or at least clothing colors to not be considered profiling. I.e identifiers other than just race.
Unless someone can come up with a copy of the police report with only "black guys robbed us" in it, I'm giving her a pass on this.
Your understanding is correct. This Judge spent her life saying you can NEVER just say race without other identifiers such as those you listed (and I also listed, look back at my post, I said you must use an identifier such as a tattoo). So, what physical characteristics did she use? None according to the story. Which means she spent her life saying what she just did was racist.
Utter crap. Stuff like that sets race relations BACK in my opinion.
A 911 call isn't a victim statement in a police report, though. I admit I'm only assuming where an official description is determined from, though.
By the way, unless I missed a link somewhere in the article, I don't see a full transcript for the call, either. Taking only two excepts from a 911 call is pretty disingenuous. Why so cherry-picked? Odds are she gave a better description, the article author just didn't want to include it.
originally posted by: buster2010
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: xuenchen
How is it ironic?
It should be obvious all blacks should be looked at as criminals. Just like all people from the ME should be considered Muslim and are terrorist. This is the kind of crap that FOX and other neoconservative groups try to get people to believe.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I saw the pic of the three. One has a tattoo on his right shoulder. Did she see it? Aside from that what other identifiers are there? Remember, this is a person that been frightened. It's not like she's taking notes.
originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: xuenchen
As much as I hate this new PC garbage, this is not a case of profiling. That's just twisting it into something it's not.
Giving a description of someone committing a crime is not even close to profiling.
It's just more partisan crap IMO.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I saw the pic of the three. One has a tattoo on his right shoulder. Did she see it? Aside from that what other identifiers are there? Remember, this is a person that been frightened. It's not like she's taking notes.
Listen you are preaching to the choir, say they are black!!!
The problem is this lady spent her whole life saying you should NOT say they are black.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
I quoted the ACLU where under there definition you need an identifier or it's racial profiling, she used no identifiers.
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I don't think you are understanding what you are reading. I see the words you are quoting but it isn't matching what you are saying at all. Read the whole thing, please. It's only a few paragraphs.
originally posted by: intrepid
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I saw the pic of the three. One has a tattoo on his right shoulder. Did she see it? Aside from that what other identifiers are there? Remember, this is a person that been frightened. It's not like she's taking notes.
Listen you are preaching to the choir, say they are black!!!
The problem is this lady spent her whole life saying you should NOT say they are black.
Uh huh and in a rational state of mind that would make sense. Does she sound like she's in a rational state?