Obama Administration says Trump is not eligible to run for office or other candidates who agree

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: Fromabove

originally posted by: jonnywhite
a reply to: Fromabove
I support not admitting people who we know are linked to terrorism. That requires evidence. Just banning all muslims is assuming everybody is guilty just because they believe in the teachings of Muhammad.

Trump is trumpetting again and it's a loud obnoxious noise.

It's like this. Someone takes every tenth bottle of pain reliever and puts a deadly poison in it. The FDA suspects that tainted pills are getting into the population. Should they look in every bottle for the bad one's or stop the import to prevent death?

What Trump is saying is that until we can better screen those wanting entry into the US, we should halt entry for a time to better serve the public safety and make sure bad guys don't come in with the good. It's unfortunate for those who do no wrong, but necessary. President carter did it in 1979. And Trump wants to use that same authority to do it now. Here is the law that grants him that power as President.


8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens:

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

It's a ridiculous policy. I have an atheist American friend married to a Muslim man from Bangladesh, so Trump's suggestion would keep their family from coming to visit.

It's not like Trump's plan would just affect Muslims or Muslims outside the U.S. It would personally affect families all over the U.S. It's a much bigger turn-off than I think Trump supporters realize.

People are going to reject this line of thinking with a resounding 'No.'

Of course they will. They will reject it because of all the disrespectful things Trump has had to say towards women and minorities. He called Mexican immigrants killers and rapists. If he doesn't like a woman, he will call her a "bloated pig". If he doesn't like what a reporter says, he will mock their disability.

Although I agree with Trump on the issue of immigration - what he is actually saying would make good policy decisions, it is going to be drowned out by all of his disrespectful rhetoric.

Of course people are going to reject it - until there is a major terrorist attack that kills thousands. Then .. they will listen - maybe. That's even if they are alive to be offended.

We cannot pretend that the majority of major terrorist attacks globally isn't tied to Islam.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: matafuchs

Of course he's eligible. Anyone who is a natural born citizen of a certain age is eligible. Doesn't necessarily mean they should be.

He shouldn't be.

I believe that this is the whole idea of voting - maybe people have forgotten it along the way - but if someone says something and the majority of people agree, they win. If they say something people don't agree with, they lose.

You can't rig the system by saying "hmm, well what he's saying seems popular - lets ban him from entering"

That's making even more of a mockery of democracy than we already have.

a reply to: Power_Semi

He shouldn't be is my own humble opinion. Nothing more. I'd be among the first to squawk if he were denied the right to run.

Of course he should be able to run. He is.

originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: matafuchs

Trump's new insignia ...

I wonder how this new "radical labeling" will work for liberals, to call him a Nazi, which he is anything but. He is a Nazi, he is a racist. lmfao. You calling him a Nazi just makes me more committed to the man. Can't wait for the racist Nazi to win!

originally posted by: GeisterFahrer

Although I agree with Trump on the issue of immigration - what he is actually saying would make good policy decisions, it is going to be drowned out by all of his disrespectful rhetoric.

Of course people are going to reject it - until there is a major terrorist attack that kills thousands. Then .. they will listen - maybe. That's even if they are alive to be offended.

We cannot pretend that the majority of major terrorist attacks globally isn't tied to Islam.

No one is pretending any such thing.

The U.S. won't reject it just because Trump is crass and insulting. Under his plan, people like the friend I used as an example, wouldn't be able to have their own families from overseas visit them. My friend is currently pregnant so many people in her family will be visiting over the next few months. She has already imagined the impact Trump's plan would have on her family.

And, she isn't an isolated example. Believe it or not, there are a lot of Muslims in the U.S. with family out of the country. In my friend's case, her husband is from Bangladesh and one of the funniest, nicest guys. He's also a cardiologist -- so he is the opposite of a dangerous person. Trump would effectively be punishing law-abiding U.S. citizens.

There are just too many perfectly nice Muslim families for the U.S. to accept such an idea.

Trump knows this. His rhetoric is so extreme, people can no longer discuss reasonable solutions. His crap is hogging up the national conversation and dumbing it down.

It's odd the White House would make such a statement, since they are sworn to uphold the constitution.

1st is freedom of speech. Trump has a right to say what he wants.

2nd amendment. Trump did not say Muslim's can't practice their religion, he just stated a temporary ban just like President Carter enacted on Iranians, during the 70's.

Lastly "The Qualification for Office of the President" I don't see anything in the constitution that would disqualify Donald Trump at this point, unless I missed something in the highest law of our land.

www.presidentsusa.net...

Qualifications for the Office of President Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1 No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 - ratified February 27, 1951 No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

People may not like everything Trump is saying, but he has the right to say it.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Please...the same can be asked of you. I'll say this; Barack Obama is, and has been divisive. No good leader would consciously create or rather embellish disparity between factions making up his own constituency. ...and see I didn't have to be rude

a reply to: Realtruth

Amen

a reply to: Rezlooper

I agree
I'm really starting to wonder why everyone is so afraid?

I mean, if they were really right...

originally posted by: gimphnoid
a reply to: namelesss

I apologize, my reply was supposed to be extremely sarcastic, this is not my core belief. I imagine more than a few people thinking more extremely in the past week, being fueled by the see no evil do nothing politicians in power. What happens from here is anyone's guess.

Ah, there I go popping off again!
I guess the 'sarcasm' sticker fell off!
That is one huge internet problem, for me; I cannot see people who are talking to me, and see their body motion which speaks equally loud, if not moreso, then the words.
Peace...

a reply to: SlapMonkey

Although I did not know the code. I aggree that the office has that power. Always has.

In fact the MAIN power of the office deals with external issue of the US such as this and treaties.

The Executive branch has very little power when it comes to US law. As I said it has only the power to enforce, NOT change.

The current use of Executive orders to CHANGE laws is not an appropriate use and is an Impeachable offense. That being said, Congress would have to do this. Until the last election the Dem holding of 60 seats in the Senate made that a moot point. Even now it would be unlikely too pass with the required numbers.

Factcheck.org went into the differences between current use of these orders and "so called" similar ones done by past Presidents.

Congress has not acted to check this and we also have not acted by replacing the people in Congress that have not acted.

I think this is why Trump is going so strong. The quiet conservative majority in this country is waking up and wants all the career politicians out. We saw the beginning of this with the Tea Party movement. Liberals forgot the old saying of be careful of waking the sleeping giant. Conservatives make up this giant in the US. For many years most of them have been content to let all the people moan about their little issues as long as you left them in peace. Obamacare, Gay marriage, 2nd Amendment, immigration and terror issues have woken the giant and he is getting ready to swat some people so he can go back to sleep again.

originally posted by: Indigo5

Trump opposes the constitution of the United State...

They all do.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Please...the same can be asked of you. I'll say this; Barack Obama is, and has been divisive. No good leader would consciously create or rather embellish disparity between factions making up his own constituency. ...and see I didn't have to be rude

I never said he wasn't divisive. Don't change the subject. I clearly said he wasn't the most unamerican president ever. Saying something like that is hyperbole pure and simple. It also shows a disrespect for history. History of our country. So excuse me for being rude.

For the White house to say this, uhm, hello Pot calling kettle!! If Obama could be President then Mickey Mouse could and would do a better job!!

Trump is telling it like it is without political correctness and is rising in the polls!! The American people are fed up with this clown trying to tell us what to do and assuming he has absolute power over us!! Trump throws a wrench in their plans!!


Pax

a reply to: paxnatus

For the White house to say this, uhm, hello Pot calling kettle!!

LOVE this thought process!

To me it sounds like, "We saw this current president say stupid things before his presidency and he still got elected and looked what happened! Why not do it all over again with this Trump guy?"

a reply to: matafuchs

ironic from Obama - where's you birth certificate Mr? oh yeah, in Kenya.

When this White House and administration says not to vote for a particular person...I'm all in voting for them!!! It's kinda like a piece of dog crap saying the flower smells funny. It is right...but for the wrong reason.