San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

Most useless conference EVER

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Indigo5

If it's cartel, it looks no better politically for anyone currently in power in the US. People have been saying this sort of thing was coming without border control ... here it is.

We know nothing yet. At first it was ISIS, now it's cartels?

Stop speculating. Just be patient.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ketsuko

Or it could be neither, lets get the facts and then talk about what is going to happen.

Police are even acknowledging that this was professional.

There are very, very few professional groups who could do that.

Looks like there is a cop solo in the building.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Indigo5

If it's cartel, it looks no better politically for anyone currently in power in the US. People have been saying this sort of thing was coming without border control ... here it is.

There is no evidence that they aren't US Citizens, right?

I think this is going to turn out to be revenge driven...Nothing more. Not ISIS, not cartel, not anything other than just some crazy and pissed off person with crazy and pissed off friends. Just my two cents...

It's over folks, they have all the gunmen in custody right now.

www.broadcastify.com... just said they need air support and they have movement

now we got a cult situation .. they better not have wired those gas tanks

a reply to: Informer1958

Do you think people involved in something like this will be 100% truthful as to who they were working with, if anyone. This type of investigation ends when all questions are answered and there is nothing left to look for / find / etc.

Families involved who lost people are going to ask questions for closure. You make sure you can get that info.


* - Google Maps - San Bernadino CA

* - CA Law Enforcement codes

* - Broadcastify Internet police scanner list - San Bernadino County / CHiPs - live feeds

* - County System 1 -Sheriff and Fire

* - San Bernardino Frequency Directory

POLICE: These ARE the shooter suspects.

originally posted by: lovebeck

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Indigo5

If it's cartel, it looks no better politically for anyone currently in power in the US. People have been saying this sort of thing was coming without border control ... here it is.

There is no evidence that they aren't US Citizens, right?

I think this is going to turn out to be revenge driven...Nothing more. Not ISIS, not cartel, not anything other than just some crazy and pissed off person with crazy and pissed off friends. Just my two cents...

With Bombs and IEDs?

a reply to: ketsuko

And I could speculate that it was militia members with military training, would fit right in to that.

We don't know any information yet.

a reply to: lovebeck

Maybe, but it was awfully well planned out for that IMO, and if that's the story they give us, I'll have a very hard time swallowing it.

Three random Joes get disgruntled and plan a random attack and a random group because they are mad? Weekend warriors run amok?

MSM: ONE SUSPECT DEAD, ONE INJURED, ONE AT LARGE.

But I KNOW I just heard someone say all three suspects are at the SUV scene.

it's all blending together at this point. Confusion galore.

Air support just requested, suspect going East, over walls....
There has to be more than just those in the SUV... Suspect in Neighborhood....

originally posted by: Informer1958
It's over folks, they have all the gunmen in custody right now.

How do they know? Did they know how many there were?

originally posted by: tonycodes
reload and scroll and reload and scroll lol

That's how I'm doing it. Don't know of another way...

originally posted by: IAMTAT
POLICE: These ARE the shooter suspects.

I heard that but something weird is happening on this staion still, maybe its not related? www.broadcastify.com...

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Indigo5

If it's cartel, it looks no better politically for anyone currently in power in the US. People have been saying this sort of thing was coming without border control ... here it is.

We know nothing yet. At first it was ISIS, now it's cartels?

Stop speculating. Just be patient.

Exactly. News conference police lady said there may be one more suspect, but I didn't pick that up on the scanner.

Also, professional is the same as trained which is the same as organized. Nice propaganda and fear instilling word choice there, IMHO. Gets the type of reaction above and that is what "they" want.

Sounds like it's transitioning into the investigatory phase now.

Finally.

I put my money on cartel driven violence. It doesn't matter really matter .. if it turns out to be ISIS or Cartel - Obama's policies allowed that to happen! Remember that folks!