California Begins Injecting Children with Mercury...

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: ringdingdong

It's still a hell of a lot worse than taking in the equivalent dose through the digestive system.

No it isn't.

Muscle injection allows the vaccine to be absorbed slowly into the system.

There are exceptions. The modern flu vaccines given to US Army personnel are nasal aerosols.

Vaccines MUST be introduced into the system slowly. The whole point is to elicit an immune system response.

This is your post. I missed nothing. You have no good point here.

Do you think the rate of absorption is slower and bio-availability lower through the muscle than the digestive system? I didn't think so, it's not a relevant point, and it's not the reason vaccines are used intramuscular vs orally.

The main point pertaining to this thread is that mercury injected into a muscle is worse than the same dose of mercury orally ingested. Everything else is besides that main point, but should support or reject that notion.

The question I have is what is the equivalent dose IM vs oral ingestion for mercury. Then we could perhaps get an understanding of how this impacts the average person. From there we would need to look for genetic variation in ability to properly filter out the mercury. You know autistics disproportionately have issues here. In the future, I hope genetic screening will take care of these needs of potential auties, and not shove a poison in their bodies that may be a non-issue to the majority of other individuals.

a reply to: Metallicus

Of course people will read mercury and go all Helen Lovejoy and I can understand why-after all it is mercury.

However a fatal snake bite can be treated with a concoction that includes...snake venom. Snake venom has also been considered as a alternative method of treating angina as far as I know.

I'm not a father but I know fathers and they would never compromise their childrens health. A friend of mine has a child that is frail and I-let alone he-would be livid if his fragile child was exposed to a sickness that was easily preventable and if his child was hospitalized because of an anti vaccer then i'd hate to be in the the same country as him let alone the same town.

a reply to: vjr1113

Now you're about to go on an irrational diatribe about herd dynamics when I point out that if your child has the vaccinations and flu shots, they should be protected whether my kid has them or not, which is the whole point of having them take them in the first place.

If they can't be effective without forcing everyone to take them, then they aren't effective.

Also, I don't believe that the state has ANY business involving themselves with the well being of people's children. That's the parent's responsibility and the State SURELY doesn't have any authority to force an elective medical procedure on someone's child. You comparing that to making sure they aren't being starved is patently ridiculous.

Jaden

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Let him come at me, and we'll see what happens. If his child has the vaccine and it's effective, wtf does it matter whether he's exposed to my child or not?

I just asked my wife to ask our child if they've said anything at school about flu shots, because I promise she won't be taking any.
They haven't said or done anything and I live in Cali.

As far as your friend, if because of his irrational fears someone tried to force a needle into my kids arm without permission, he wouldn't have to come after me, I'll be coming after him and anyone who thinks that they have the authority to stick a needle in my kids arm.

My kids have vaccinations, but flu shots are useless pieces of monkey shiite that will go near no one in my family, EVER...

Jaden

I was in the military and never was I forced to take a flu shot, nor did I.

Yes, whether you're pro-vax or anti-vax, it's pretty hard not to see the outright erosion of rights in these laws. First of all, the mandatory legislation in California also makes it so that ANY future vaccines they deem necessary can also be made mandatory. Gardisil is mandatory in three states for girls getting into middle school. I thought mandatory vaccination was to protect others. NO ONE is going to get HPV in a school setting, a casual setting. There is literally NO reason to take away the choice for that one.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

See though, people getting sick "because of an anti-vaxer" is just a new meme, that's all it is. It doesn't make it true at all. When there are known documented cases of vaccinated people NOT getting sick but spreading polio to others through the vaccine, I fail to understand why people don't question it and instead make it the non-vaccinated people's fault.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Okay but wait, just my two cents: I'm for the OP in general terms, but seriously Natural News is the LAST place I'd send anyone to for ANY information. If I tried to convince a friend of the danger of vaccines, I would send them to Natural News if I wanted my friend to laugh in my face.

originally posted by: Metallicus

California begins injecting children with mercury... flu shot 'shortage' cited as bizarre justification... state safety laws nullified to push vaccines...

California Health and Human Services Agency Secretary Diana S. Dooley has just cast aside a law intended to protect children from mercury in vaccines.

"I am granting a temporary exemption from California Health and Safety Code Section 124172 for seasonal influenza vaccine with trace levels of thimerosal to be administered to children younger than three years from October 9, 2015 through December 31, 2015, because the current supply of thimerosal-free vaccine for young children is inadequate," declares Dooley.

California Begins Injecting Children with Mercury...

Well this is disgusting. Apparently California is suspending their own safety protocols to ensure that every child gets their shot of mercury ladened flu vaccine. The sad part is there is no choice for parents. Do you want to attend school in California? Then get your mercury injection.

I am NOT anti-vax.

I have received vaccines in the past after doing the research and I have also turned many down even though my doctor was pushing them. The key is I have a choice and people in California don't.

They KNOW that these shots containing Mercury are dangerous for young children yet they still insist on forcing them on these families. Nevermind that they rarely even have an effective flu vaccine because the viruses mutate too fast these days. Even though it is likely to be ineffective to prevent the flu they are going to force a guaranteed dangerous shot on children.
This is plain evil. If there was a choice I could just say no, but forcing them on you to attend school is insanity. There are some good vaccines and I got my daughter immunized against most common childhood diseases, but I had the ability to say no to flu shots and Gardasil and other junk that were unnecessary and possibly dangerous.

Taking away freedom of choice from people is unAmerican and just plain wrong. I don't accept that people can just not send their kids to school. If education is a fundamental right then so should the right to make informed decisions regarding your family's health.

Children younger than 3 don't go to school. Most prek kids are watched by a stay at home parent or family members or are in home day cares that are not licensed. If flu shots are being forced in licenced preK daycares, and preschools, which I doubt, and the parent is against it, the parent needs to make a financial sacrafice and stay home to watch their kid or help start a campaign with like minded parents and stick with a firm "no" against it.
Mandating flu shots is absurd though because every year they guess at what type it will be. The shot is flawed in that regard and flawed as stated as to why in the OP. Mercury.

Thimerosal is not mercury any more than table salt is chlorine. Its thimerosal. A molecular compound.

originally posted by: ringdingdong
a reply to: Bedlam

Reopened on grounds of poor reasoning. Snipping my quote out of context and providing an extreme example might be viewed as clever to some, but is in poor taste and choosing to miss the point.

It's not out of context. You flatly stated that the digestive system can reject anything harmful. Which is absolutely incorrect.

The point is about differences in rate of absorption of toxic chemicals via different pathways of exposure. How much less cyanide is needed to be lethal if inhaled? That would be mildly relevant.

Not really. You don't, in general, eat vaccines because the active part of it is generally a protein or peptide sequence which is digested. A few vaccines can be taken orally, because they're mucosally active, but not many.

Well... I don't and definitely my kids don't get flu shots!

a reply to: Metallicus

Does anyone remember when flu vacs were not safe for children and pregnant women? I think it was in the early 90's ...this is so infuriating!...I would home school before allowing it

originally posted by: BMorris
Thimerosal is not mercury any more than table salt is chlorine. Its thimerosal. A molecular compound.

Umm...

Thiomersal is very toxic by inhalation, ingestion, and in contact with skin (EC hazard symbol T+), with a danger of cumulative effects. It is also very toxic to aquatic organisms and may cause long-term adverse effects in aquatic environments (EC hazard symbol N).[19] In the body, it is metabolized or degraded to ethylmercury (C2H5Hg+) and thiosalicylate.[12]

a reply to: projectvxn

Rational Wiki seems just as dubious to me... So many ad hominem fallacies on ATS lately..

a reply to: Metallicus


This is outrages.

DO NOT put mercury in you body.

en.wikipedia.org...

www.mercola.com...

www.globalhealingcenter.com...

www.dw.com...

mercury is used in many products, here's the EPA list.....you might be surprised how closely you work with mercury

www2.epa.gov...

originally posted by: Nodrak
a reply to: projectvxn

Rational Wiki seems just as dubious to me... So many ad hominem fallacies on ATS lately..

par for the course, get used to it, it's not going away...just wait till next year's election cycle...you'll start drinking heavily.

a reply to: projectvxn

Actually everything he's saying in that video makes complete sense. You're free to keep doing what you want. I haven't had a flu vaccine in over 7 years and I'm never sick, maybe sniffles once in a while that I shake off within a day or two. Haven't had stomach flu in as long as I can remember.

a reply to: smarterthanyou

Actually everything he's saying in that video makes complete sense.

In the sense that he's stringing sentences together in a semi coherent manner I guess.

You're free to keep doing what you want.

Thanks, I will

I haven't had a flu vaccine in over 7 years and I'm never sick, maybe sniffles once in a while that I shake off within a day or two. Haven't had stomach flu in as long as I can remember.

I'm happy to hear that.

a reply to: Nodrak

And? What is your point?

I never said it didn't contain mercury, I said it wasn't mercury.

Just as Sodium Chloride (table salt) contains chlorine, but isn't chlorine.

Just because a molecular compound contains certain elements, be it mercury, or chlorine, does not make them the same items as their elemental constituents. Water contains oxygen. Can you breathe water because it contains oxygen? No because water is not oxygen.