The Rise of ISIS: How the Most Powerful Terror Group in the World Was Created

a reply to: amfirst1

No that was the Taliban, that turned on the U.S.

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Jesse said it.......
Columbus was avoiding the M E to get to India........in 1492.....
why are we going there now....? Ismael is a wild donkey....

In 1492 there was no Suez Canal so trade either came overland or round the entire continent of Africa by ship. Columbus was looking for a short cut.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: JesseVentura

Wow...a thread by JesseVentura without "Jesse Ventura" in the title! Amazing! That must have been a tough one to do.

I wonder if he's ever responded to any of his hit & run threads here on ATS (?). Probably not even him posting.

What a joke!

BTW, Jesse, the US didn't create ISIS, extremist Islam did.

While I believe the U.S. plays a very large role directing ISIS, I also agree the source of this thread is questionable and am certain the OP material is chock full of disinfo. So certain, in fact, that I refuse to hear it.

The great band of anti Christian sect of muslims
Shall rise up in Iraq and Syria along the
Euphrates river
With an armored force
Which will hold the Christian law to be
It's enemy
Gods word is prophecy

Alla Akbar God is great the war cry of the Holy jihad
When you hear this cry
christians you shall all tremble
For it is the Muslims who you must fear and dread
Gods word is prophecy

There is more suffering to come France
There will be more attacks
The rest of Europe will suffer with you
All these things must happen
For God wants the monarchy to return
In France
Paris will be no more
A place that will be made uninhabitable
Avignon will be your new capital
And after 200 years of a republic
Will see the end of universal suffrage
The end of democracy
And the return of the monarchy
The bourbon prophecy will be fore filled
A British born noble 2nd born named Henry
Will lead a great army of Anglo's who will land on the beaches of France and drive out the Russians and the Muslims out of Europe
This British noble carries the bourbon bloodline
Who will become the king of France
The king of Denmark
And the king of Rome
The father will return
The Holy Roman Empire

From the father
The Holy Roman Empire

Come the mother
The Republic

Then from the mother come the son
Communism

The son will come to kill the mother
Communism will destroy the republic

And then the father will return

Nostradamus 1555 salon France


Comet Catalina has just left the sun
And is heading in our direction

When you see the comet all western nations shall be submerged in revolution bloodshed and flames.

For seven days the comet will blaze

Soon there will be an attempted poisoning
Of the Russian leader Putin
Before he sends innumerable troops into Europe

You've got a level of government that remains as the elected officials come and go, and they just run rampant because there's no check and balance on them. When a new administration comes in, they're already involved in it, and if they expose it, it makes them look stupid- why didn't they know it was going on? So they let it go. What you need to do is read Fletcher Prouty's "The Secret Team".
-JV

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: JesseVentura

Don't forget how Obama's weakness and incompetence also contributed to encourage ISIS. We have had a string of foolish, incompetent Presidents in the U.S. However, I don't blame Bush and Obama entirely for their failures and the rise of ISIS. The fact is these are evil people and that evil was there festering before either of our Presidents exacerbated the problem through their incompetence.

The Bush administration invaded Iraq. Do you think any of this would have been around today if we had not invaded?

-JV

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: JesseVentura

So you relate this to the Bush admin..... that is only one half of the pie. The Left has it's half as well which is being fulfilled by the current admin which by the way has one Iranian born Valerie Jarrett a communist with communist family background an unelected person as thee most powerful and closest advisor to the President.
All GOP are not really right wing conservative either and Bush is 3rd generation Bonesman to grandpappy Prescott Bush. Antony Sutton explains extremes of left and right are false opposites that originate out of the same Totalitarian ideology.

a reply to: Brainiac

really?

a reply to: neo96

Wrong, Daesh started as mercenaries for the new Iraqi government and U.S. interests.

a reply to: JesseVentura

Interesting news today at The Fiscal Times the auditors at the Pentagon lost $6.5 trillion dollars which doesn't I suppose include off balance sheet items such as the $800m-$1200million opium poppy revenues,half of its probably driving around Iraq flying black flags must be a massive false flag coming up the truth is leaking out of the cracks and they are running out of hats to cover all the turds.

I can see why some middle-eastern muslims hate the west through, seriously.

www.google.com...

They "rose" by TV and media talking about them all the time, if TV didn't say anything about them then you wouldn't have said a word about them to this day.

According to global research study (www.globalresearch.ca...)it is said that both Al-Qaeda and ISIS is the creation of America. Though not deliberately. The war on terror, launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions.

The study goes on to say that they were designed as an instrument of terror designed to divide the oil rich middle east and to put a hold on the Iran's influence in that region.

I too believe that it goes back to FDR

Is this one of those "blame the US but the world still won't do anything about it" topics?

suggestibility of people ... and their love of money still plays a big role here.

I have a solution.

World's newest religion, Neo-Islam, has started disseminating Neo-Koran -- a much modern, progressive and liberal version of Paleo-Islam. ... Neo-Islam and the End of Paleo-Islam: End of Terrorism As We Know It.

ISIS is a weapon of the elites. This is the solution by the elites.

We create problems. We then solve them.

originally posted by: AyinSof
I have a solution.

World's newest religion, Neo-Islam, has started disseminating Neo-Koran -- a much modern, progressive and liberal version of Paleo-Islam. ...

Unfortunately you're up against Saudi Wahabism (which actually alters their Qur'ans to suit the extremist mentality) and they've spent 100 billion promoting it.

Unfortunately, however, it is smothered by a belligerent, patriarchal form of Islam, called Wahabism, which has the formidable support of Saudi Arabian petro-dollars. This programme suggested that over the past few decades, upwards of $100 billion has been spent promoting Wahabism, and that the 10 million or so Qur'ans that roll off the printing presses each year are carefully doctored to appeal to modern emotions and prejudices. 

link

There's a vid here of Wahabism in action in a London mosque which should tell you all you need to know.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

This is an unwritten law