Curse Of Oak Island

A (late) acquaintance of mine, an 'intuitive archaeologist', did hold a bit of chain from the pit and pronounced it to be Templar gold...but that's another story.

Dont drop that here without telling the story!!

I believe Rick and Marty will be getting very close to solving part of the Oak Island mystery this year. What they and there team have done so far is slow and methodical, that's OK. I do believe with the Nuclear scanning of the island in the last episode has proven to be a wealth of information that can be acted upon. But once the mystery of 10X is completed they still have to work on the Money Pit, and the Swamp. There is just so much for them to cover. I do like the show he keeps me interested.

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I believe Rick and Marty will be getting very close to solving part of the Oak Island mystery this year.

Yep, Rick and Morty will figure it out eventually.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Of course it's scripted. It is reality TV after all, and nothing is ever further from reality than reality TV.

But the history is real and what they are trying to accomplish there is real.

The engineering of the booby-trap for the money pit was far too elaborate for there not to be something of great importance and I can't wait for the day when they finally get to the bottom of it... figuratively and literally.

BTW, scenes from the next episode show a dagger that they presumably pull from the bottom of the pit.

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly....

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
But one fact remains...they are throwing a lot of dough and expertise at the mystery, and it's probably the best chance ever to resolve it.

originally posted by: Butterfinger

A (late) acquaintance of mine, an 'intuitive archaeologist', did hold a bit of chain from the pit and pronounced it to be Templar gold...but that's another story.

Dont drop that here without telling the story!!

Here's a link to that page: www.abovetopsecret.com...
The 'intuitive' was George McMullen, who has since passed away...

and the owner was Blankenship.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
That show is scripted. It is television, after all. You're not actually taking it seriously, are you?

Hey, I saw that show the other night where they caught Bigfoot, and that was scripted. So there.

There is a really cool theory about O.A. that says that it was used to store gold, stolen from spain.
That gold was subsequently used to fund Americas beginning. Now there is just an empty pit full of mystery, but no treasure.
I'm at work now, but when I have time, ill find the full theory and post it.
It was the most convincing one that I have read.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

So let's consider that because it is a viable theory. According to Wikipedia

In 1795, 18-year-old Daniel McGinnis, after observing lights coming from the island, discovered a circular depression in a clearing on the southeastern end of the island. Adjacent to the clearing was a tree with a tackle block on one of its overhanging branches.[3] McGinnis, with the help of friends John Smith (in early accounts, Samuel Ball) and Anthony Vaughan, excavated the depression and discovered a layer of flagstones a few feet below. On the pit walls there were visible markings from a pick. As they dug down they discovered layers of logs at about every 10 feet (3.0 m). They abandoned the excavation at 30 feet (9.1 m).

So in 1776, McGinnis wouldn't have even been born. We don't know the ages of his friends. But you'd think his parents would have remembered or known about activity on the island if they were locals in the area at that time. Again, we don't know whether McGinnis' parents were locals or migrated there and when. However, you'd think the notoriety these boys gained by digging for SOMETHING would have brought up confirmation or speculation of the theory, right?

yet clearly there is no consensus on what (if anything) is actually there... Whatever those boys were told (if anything) has been lost to history. But if they were told it was Pirate Treasure, Templar Treasure, or Spanish Treasure to fund the Americas.....why have so many theories popped up that are so disparate from one another?

a reply to: TheSpanishArcher

It's a good show as far as shows go now-a-days.

Sure the producers through in the nonsense here and there but it is TV after all. The guys, the effort, and what they find are all real. Their artifacts are in the Nova Scotia Museum. Maybe too many people want an instant answer.

If it ain't immediate, it ain't real.

BTW, I use Google for an ATS search. It works better. Example "above top secret oak island" Got a dozen results from just that.

If this is the show Hutton Pulitzer is on, then I expect all kinds of trickery and deceit. I just do not like that pompous blow hard egomaniac.

Look it's a TV show. Not a real search.

They will never televise a successful conclusion.

Have you forgotten:
Search for Bigfoot
Snake Island
Ancient Aliens
Ancient Astronauts

If any of these show ever had a real find it would make network news.

a reply to: CIAGypsy
I could not find where I originally saw the theory, but i found somewhere else that is very close to what I read.

The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “powers that be” who were and still are to this day, the secret force that controls the course of mankind on earth.

This organization is known as – The “Free Masons”.

The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic 33 degree members of the Free Masons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.

These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.

These members were:

Washington Shirley, 5th Earl Ferrers – Vice Admiral – Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge – Premier Grand Lodge of England

George Anson, Baron Anson – Admiral of the Fleet

George Keppel, 3rd Earl of Albemarle – Commander-In-Chief

Augustus Keppel, 1st Viscount Keppel – Rear Admiral – Brother to George Keppel

William Keppel – Lieutenant-General – Brother to George Keppel

George Pocock – Admiral – Commander of the Invasion of Havana

and

Benjamin Franklin – First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.

The Mason’s plot originated after King George III’s destruction of the Whig’s political power with his redirection of this power to the Tory Party, and the Mason’s concern of the imminent invasion of England, during the Seven Years’ War, by the joint forces of France and Spain. Spain outlawed

all forms of secret organizations, including the Free Masons.

The Mason’s plan was to redirect a fortune to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.

Their plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.

Havana’s Morro Castle was the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the South and Central America’s gold supply prior to its shipment to Spain.

The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William Keppel, commanding the actual attack.

They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure. They also captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which was needed to accomplish their

plan. Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the 8 Spanish Galleons and the 2 British Man of War.

This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia now called Oak Island.

At Oak Island the treasure was buried based on the Masonic 13th degree “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of a main shaft (The Money Pit) which was dug down to the bedrock. From the ninth level another tunnel was constructed which

ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground

and at this point an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure. The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern. To conceal their plot they had the 8 Spanish ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels and cavern burnt and all the metal parts (canons, anchors and bolts) were placed at the bottom of the main shaft. Flood tunnels were built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft. A large stone was placed at the air lock (8th level) as bait to activate the flooding. This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy greedy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever.

The Masons knew exactly by their calculated mark above ground where the treasure cavern below ground was located and could access it by digging down 20 feet.

Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with 2 ships and a small portion of the treasure, claiming that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

The Masons left several markers on the island to relocate

the treasure.

1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant

2 drilled holed stones

1 large stone cross

These combined markers point to the “X” where the cavern is

today located.

Is the treasure still in this cavern?

I believe it was removed in 1795

One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.

These lights were made by the Free Masons when they returned for their treasure.

This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States – acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

The treasure’s vast fortune was used, as planned, to further the power of the Free Masons in their new world, with them becoming “The New World Order”.

Enjoy

originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o

The story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britain’s high ranking naval officers, who were also Masonic 33 degree members of the Free Masons and belonging to the Masonic “Premier Grand Lodge of England”.

The Scottish Rite, which confers the 33rd degree, did not exist in its present form until the early 1800's.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Great Argument. It is just a theory.
If you take out the 33rd degree aspect of it and replace it with say.. "high ranking"
Does the theory hold water in your opinion?

originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
Great Argument. It is just a theory.
If you take out the 33rd degree aspect of it and replace it with say.. "high ranking"
Does the theory hold water in your opinion?

Well, putting aside that there is no such thing as a 'high ranking' in Masonry, I find it possible but highly implausible. I think at this point there would have been more evidence to support such a theory.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
Great Argument. It is just a theory.
If you take out the 33rd degree aspect of it and replace it with say.. "high ranking"
Does the theory hold water in your opinion?

Well, putting aside that there is no such thing as a 'high ranking' in Masonry, I find it possible but highly implausible. I think at this point there would have been more evidence to support such a theory.

I have to go with AM on this one... You should have stayed strictly with the Spanish helping the Americans. Once you pulled Masonry into it, I'm out....I don't buy it. And while I can appreciate that the Spanish helped the Americans, their "territory" was far further south - such around the Caribbean. It would seem out of place for them to have stashed anything at Oak Island. I would believe it would be the French before the Spanish.

I wonder why someone with a backhoe doesn't just dig a wide sloping trench to the bottom, even if the water comes up a guy in scuba gear wouldn't have much further to go. If you owned the backhoe your biggest expense would be gas and your time. For an actual treasure, I think I'd give it a shot. Of course if the treasure has already been retrieved, best to just keep it a mystery to the tax man.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: CIAGypsy
Any suggestions as to who else, at that time could build something so complex, on such a grand scale?
Better yet, why?
The fact that even with modern technology, we can't seem to figure it out is mind boggling to me.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

I personally do not believe anything of any complexity was built there and what you are seeing is a natural phenomenon.