Police attack and beat two men for... jaywalking

I want to say drop these # sacks through a wood chipper and leave them for the buzzards, but I think the buzzards deserve better. They bring shame upon themselves, their mothers, and my home State. I fart in their general direction.

a reply to: skunkape23

I fart in their general direction.

Now you got the NSA on your butt for using weapons of mass destruction .

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Just more crazies in uniform. That's at least three very recent incidents with mad police. As for Tech wanting to have a go, he should remember the guy, who was tazed, then shot dead in the back, by a totally incoherent policewoman while on his belly on the ground. And don't smoke either, or you will be done for trespassing, then sat upon.

a reply to: trollz

The one officer clearly says in the video that they're being taken to jail for "crossing against the light", ie jaywalking. So this whole situation with them being attacked was simply, by the officer's own admission, because they crossed a street.

if that's the law in the city, then the people shouldn't have resisted. you just can't tell the cops your not taking me to jail for breaking a law. it doesn't matter what you want, if a law is on the books and you break it, take the less painful way out and fight them in the courts. and in the ballot boxes.

this video as others doesn't show the moments before the police take them down, dollars to doughnuts the guys started mouthing off and broke and tried to run before the cops tackled them. but you never seem to see all that in these videos.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Jaywalking is now a jailable offense?
Since when? I thought it was a fine....

Silly me.

if that's the law in the city, then the people shouldn't have resisted.

There is a certain crowd here, that will say that to justify and rationalize the behavior of these pigs...no. matter. what.
Interesting...

reply to: Jakal26

Jaywalking is now a jailable offense? Since when? I thought it was a fine.... Silly me.

different cities and counties have a different laws. we don't know what's on the books there. as i said if that's the law.

There is a certain crowd here, that will say that to justify and rationalize the behavior of these pigs...no. matter. what. Interesting...

you don't know me, you don't know anything about my past. i suggest you go through some of my posts about my younger days and run in with the law and then make your comments. i speak from experience, and have one retired officer that hates me for a law suit that cost him a suspension.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Where is there a single city where jaywalking, in and of itself is a jailable offense? Show me one. Because that is definitely a place I am going to stay FAR away from. That's just beyond asinine and ridiculous.

you don't know me, you don't know anything about my past. i suggest you go through some of my posts about my younger days and run in with the law and then make your comments.

I've read many of your posts throughout my years here, so I know quite a bit about your positions on these issues (at least in this realm) My "sign up" date here is deceiving....I've been around far longer than that.

*now...off to find out if there is actually some hell hole where jaywalking is a jailable offense. I simply cannot believe such a place exists.

Yeah, like I said, not seeing it.
Findlaw

Penalties for Jaywalking Depending on the jurisdiction, jaywalking is either an infraction or a misdemeanor. Police enforce jaywalking laws by issuing citations. The penalty for violating jaywalking laws typically includes a fine similar to a parking ticket. In many jurisdictions, fines increase with repeat jaywalking offenses

a reply to: Jakal26

Jaywalking is now a jailable offense? Since when? I thought it was a fine.... Silly me.

i just did a searchjay walking in austin tx and yes it is a ticketsable offence as shown on this search page, did you notice how many people say they got a ticket.

so as my statment stands, we didn't see what took place before the take down. we didn't see if the two argued and tried to break and run or what until we see it's more than likely they resisted and are lying about the cops to protect themselves.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

we didn't see if the two argued and tried to break and run or what until we see it's more than likely they resisted and are lying about the cops to protect themselves.

Like I said, always the benefit given to the jack boots but never to the citizen. Same ole same, different day.
God forbid they mouth off to their "superiors".

Man, Austin must be a really nice, crime free area (well, minus the pigs criminal activity...which is what we have here)
I might move there....if this is the worst thing going on in Austin and is worthy of this kind of treatment they must have stopped all the truly violent crime.
The only victims left are the public they seem to now be exploiting.


When did police stop all the violent crime in that city?
Bicycle cops too scared to fight actual crime so they just do the revenue collecting thing....gotcha.

yes it is a ticketsable offence as shown on this search page, did you notice how many people say they got a ticket.

I know that....that's what I said.
Jailable and ticketable are kinda two different things, no?

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

"As long as it is the law"...you said. You are a model citizen. I'll leave it at that.
Jaywalking?

Littering is illegal in some parts of Britain, someone could tell our police that it's ok to beat someone up who dropped a piece of paper. Why not? It's the LAW.

Sometimes people like you and the police should consider the seriousness of the 'crime' into their actions.
See, had he just been caught after raping a woman, I'd help the police kick his ass.

US police take anything people do as a personal attack and there is no option for failure to let this person 'win'. Hence ANYTHING is allowed to subdue the person, even if the original crime was very minor.
That is not the action a 'keeper of peace' should take. What ever happened to a friendly approach, a friendly telling off with added education about the dangers. And then a 'letting off' with a "don't do it again" or a ticket, if need be?


I once saw in a documentary about North Korea, where a feisty woman slapped, pushed and shouted at a policeman that was doing something he shouldn't. And what he did was something really minor, like standing too close to a young lady, accusing her. She wasn't scared of any repercussions and the policeman just backed off. There were other police around too. It seemed that this was just accepted over there [not a one off].

That concludes that the US police is far more dangerous than the North Korean one. Should we just accept that or should alarm bells ringing?

a reply to: Jakal26

and as i've said, from NV law,

Arrests
Getting arrested for J-walking in Nevada is extremely rare, but it will happen in either of the following circumstances: The cop runs your name and sees you have an outstanding warrant,
You're a habitual jaywalker or other repeat offender,
You resist the cop giving you the citation, or
You're on probation (thought whether or not the judge will revoke your probation is decided on a case-by-case basis).

Nevada "Jaywalking" Laws Explained by Las Vegas Criminal Defense Lawyers

i imagine if you resist and try to run, it's the same in Texas

a reply to: Hecate666

You are a model citizen

never claimed that, in fact have stated more than a few times i fought the law and the law won. just once did i win and got the cop suspended. and that because he had no cause.

a reply to: Hecate666

That is not the action a 'keeper of peace' should take. What ever happened to a friendly approach, a friendly telling off with added education about the dangers.

This training is what happened. Always escalate, never de-escalate.

Some should let it sink in where this training stems from and it's purpose(s)...

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

in fact have stated more than a few times i fought the law and the law won.

Oh, I get it now.
You're one of those that's had the boot of oppression firmly placed on your throat and when you resisted, they just pressed the boot down harder and now you've surrendered.
I get it....it's a survival tactic. One I'm not comfortable with.

Lay down, play dead....just obey and they won't hurt you.
Yeah, I get it....I really do.

FTP state!

Oh look, Cops being roided up morons. I'm sure the law enforcement sympathizers will just say that the people J walking were threatening the officers lives.

Just the look on cops faces piss me off, they always look like they hate their life, and the world. I don't know why we let #holes police us.

a reply to: eXia7

I don't know why we let #holes police us.

Fear.
And because it often never touches them personally.

The mantra is "do as you're told, obey the law, if you do this you will not be harmed"....."anyone who resists in any way, shape, or form is obviously doing something wrong and should be dealt with with extreme force [and caution]..

If you have nothing to hide.....

a reply to: trollz

we don't know what happened moments before the video started. if a police officer asks you to stop so they can talk to you, just do it. sporting an attitude only brings grief. not only for the civilian but for the law enforcement officer doing his/her job. to say that police start their day thinking, "i'm going to hurt someone today." is just unrealistic. police officers are your neighbors, your family, your friends.

i'm not blind, i know there are some bad apples out there. i get it.

but all these people had to do is just calmly talk to the police and no one would have gone to jail. no one would have been hurt. if there was a ticket issued, then argue your case in court before a judge. it is how our system is designed.

a reply to: trollz

This is goofy. The title says police attack and beat two men... for jaywalking. The video starts with the police tackling the offenders. People watching the video act like they've been fooled into thinking that's where the whole incident started; that they think the police saw a couple of jaywalkers and just flew into a rage. You're smarter than that people. Let's get real now.

I've known a lot of police officers. They're a lot of fun to fight with. Enroll yourself into a Karate school, or a Boxing gym, whatever suits your fancy. There are quite a few of them in there. Some of them have over-inflated egos. Some of them are on steroids. I knew a cop who was kicked out of the force for drug possession (he was suspected of selling them). Some of them are humble public servants that we should all be proud to have at our service. They're all just people.

On the street I've had good, bad, and neutral contact with the police. In all these situations, they were polite and professional with me, so I returned the favor. I was once pulled over for speeding. Earlier that day, on that same road, everyone including the police was going the same speed, if not faster than what I was fined for. That tells me the police weren't concerned with the speed limit causing safety hazards. They just waited for the traffic to thin out so they could fine people one at a time. They could have enforced the speed limit much more effectively by pulling people over when everyone could see it; but they didn't want people to stop speeding, they wanted the money from the tickets.

I resent the law being used in that way. But did I refuse to recognize the officer's authority and drive off? Of course not! Contempt for the law is bad for our country and its citizens. I thought about making a case in court. I had no hope of winning, because I was actually speeding; but I did consider protesting my case in court. If you have a grievance with a petty law, I'd advise you not to fight over it with the police, but to stand up for your principles in court instead.

Ultimately, I decided my speeding ticket wasn't worth fighting over; especially since I would probably lose. I folded and didn't stand up for my principles. You may think that's wrong, and you may be right. If you do think it's worth fighting for a principle, no matter how small or petty the issue may be; how can you criticize the cops for fighting for the rule of law which they firmly believe in?

Yes, jaywalking should not be this big a deal! I don't believe it was just the cops making a big deal of nothing here though.

a reply to: Jakal26

Oh, I get it now. You're one of those that's had the boot of oppression firmly placed on your throat and when you resisted, they just pressed the boot down harder and now you've surrendered. I get it....it's a survival tactic. One I'm not comfortable with. Lay down, play dead....just obey and they won't hurt you. Yeah, I get it....I really do.

no i'm one of those who grew up and know how ____ up people are, and the lies that are told on both sides.
i don't revolt over petty sh@@ such as getting a ticket for jay walking, i wait until there is a real reason and do something then.
i don't play the keyboard warrior and then in real life shrink back.

look there are laws, passed by people that were elected. they are there because some voted for them to represent us. if you don't like the laws, run for office, lobby to get them changed. but when your stopped for breaking them, and fight back against a gang that has the laws and most times the numbers in their favor, and get your ass kicked for fighting them on the street which you'll never win the cops don't stop, they will get you in the end come hell or high water. you have no one to blame but your self. pick your battles to fight and don't sweat the small stuff.

the past couple of generations , and old farts that never grew up, that think they can do what they want and not be held accountable are the real problem.

i've said in posts on other threads when the cop clearly broke the law, i said throw the book at them when there is a clear they were wrong.
but when you get a edited video that shows nothing but the cops taking someone down and nothing from before the take down you can't possibly judge if it was a ligament response or not.