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If I were to wake up everyday as a child, hear shelling and fires shot, see my city destroyed, the park in which I used to play burnt to the ground , and when I ask who caused it the response would be "westerners" who have no right to do so, the first thing I will say is sign me up.
By the way, the 72 virgin thing is BS, but you already know that.
Whilst there are numerous sources, including the Qur'an, which tell us believing males will be rewarded with virgins, many who are concerned about the authenticity of the 72 virgins concept are under the misconception that there is only one weak (da`if) reference to the exact number of houri given to them. These narrations are in fact found in many hadith collections with varying levels of authenticity, ranging from hasan (good) to sahih (authentic).
For example, in the Sunan Ibn Majah, one of the six major Hadith collections, it states in a hasan (good) narration that every male admitted into Paradise will be given eternal erections and wed to 72 wives, all with libidinous sex organs. Similarly in another hadith with multiple narrators that has been graded hasan (good), it states that the martyr (shahid) will be married to seventy-two of al-hoor al-‘iyn.
In the Sunan al-Tirmidhi, another of the six major Hadith collections, it states that the smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode with seventy-two houri. Note that this is not a "weak Hadith that has no Sanad (chain of narrators)", as some have claimed. It has been graded hasan sahih gharib, meaning this hadith is hasan since it has several chains of transmitters, it is sahih as the chains are all authentic and it is gharib in the words that Imam Tirmidhi narrated.
Also reported in Sunan al-Kubra and Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, and declared sahih (authentic) by Ibn Abi Shayba, Ibn Hibban, and al-Hakim is the hadith that states the servant in Paradise will be married with seventy wives and that they'll be given the sexual strength for a hundred.
Orthodox Muslim theologians have related further hadith that give us the exact number of 72, such as al-Ghazali who wrote, "[The Prophet said] the lowest rank of an inmate of Paradise will have eighty thousand servants and seventy two wives."
How far back does Your info go? Got anything circa 1945-1946? What were the Palestinian kids taught during these times I mention?
3 stars so far for this crap ?!. Wow. ATS has really been hijacked by far right wingers/fascists. Wonder what would have happened if someone wrote a genocidal post about the chosen ones.
What ekes me is how some present this a proof they are evil somehow. When most kids are this young, they have no idea what god is even though they are force fed religion and go to church. And no idea what war, theology and dogma are, they just dress up and carry signs because their parents dress them up that way and put replica guns n their hands. I played with GI Joes and pop guns when I was a kid, too.
Yet we are to believe somehow as suggested in the OP that these are fanatic mindless killers (kids, for chrissakes).
To me it smacks to much of Germany during WWII, they killed the kids along with their families because they knew they would grow up and try to exact revenge.
Much easier today, just drop bombs, that way kids aren't intended targets, just 'collateral damage'.
originally posted by: MaxMech
Do they really think the world will support this nation of violent fanatics, they are trying to create?
originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: intrptr
Maybe i need to refresh your memory...
When most kids are this young, they have no idea what god is
I played with GI Joes and pop guns when I was a kid, too.
Yet we are to believe somehow as suggested in the OP that these are fanatic mindless killers (kids, for chrissakes)they killed the kids along with their families that way kids aren't intended targets
Where exactly did you mention toddlers?
however you try to twist this..... a 13 yearold is a kid!
however you try to twist this truth, the bottom line is: many Palestinians teach their 'KIDS' to kill jews in the street with a kitchen knife!!!!!!!
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originally posted by: MaxMech
a reply to: intrptr
What ekes me is how some present this a proof they are evil somehow. When most kids are this young, they have no idea what god is even though they are force fed religion and go to church. And no idea what war, theology and dogma are, they just dress up and carry signs because their parents dress them up that way and put replica guns n their hands. I played with GI Joes and pop guns when I was a kid, too.
Yet we are to believe somehow as suggested in the OP that these are fanatic mindless killers (kids, for chrissakes).
To me it smacks to much of Germany during WWII, they killed the kids along with their families because they knew they would grow up and try to exact revenge.
Much easier today, just drop bombs, that way kids aren't intended targets, just 'collateral damage'.
Not sure where did you get this idea as this was never my intention.
These kids need to be saved from the society that they were born in. In no way I'm trying to demonize them.
Their parents on the other side…
The land of Israel was mostly Jewish, then after Christ it had many Christians, until 6-7 hundred years when most were slaughtered by Muslims and taken over, Knights Templar took it back 1096 and 1291 and then taken back by Islam, then Israel became an nation again in 1948. Still parts of Israel are held as you can see with the Mosque on the Jewish Holy site.
originally posted by: jamespond
originally posted by: rossacus
The land of Israel was mostly Jewish, then after Christ it had many Christians, until 6-7 hundred years when most were slaughtered by Muslims and taken over, Knights Templar took it back 1096 and 1291 and then taken back by Islam, then Israel became an nation again in 1948. Still parts of Israel are held as you can see with the Mosque on the Jewish Holy site.
A nice bit of spin there.
What you fail to mention, like most people who are pro Israel, is that the first Jews were local to the area. And that isn't the case today.
If Australians suddenly start worshipping Zeus, does that give them claim to Greece?
originally posted by: thedeadtruth
A small video of the people Israelis state never existed.
www.youtube.com...
Note the lack of children carrying guns.
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: thedeadtruth
A small video of the people Israelis state never existed.
www.youtube.com...
Note the lack of children carrying guns.
Actually look it up Israel existed before right beside Judea.
If Australians suddenly start worshipping Zeus, does that give them claim to Greece?
"th e Modern palestinian" according to th e greatest palestinian ever yasser arafatt was proven to be a flat lie in his own words in a interview one time with a jordanian newsshow. One of th e PLOs own leaders verified it as well.
The only ones who can actually say they are naturally there are the CHILDREN of the refugees in th e west bank,gaza,
Their own countries will not take them back so they are stuck.
originally posted by: gps777
originally posted by: jamespond
If Australians suddenly start worshipping Zeus, does that give them claim to Greece?
There is only one usurping barbaric religion following the life and teachings of Mohamad, who pretend/ed to be of the Abrahamic religion ( Jews who are not, with their temple on the Holy Jewish site )
Likewise if Australia went to Greece and slaughtered most worshiping Zeus and anyone else they saw as infidels for not worshiping Zeus and pretended to be the original owners and Zeus worshipers, then world leaders gave Greece back to those native to the country, you would then support Australia to keep the land and only demonise those in support of the original.
From track record there wouldn`t be the natives living in Australia USA Canada had Muslims arrived on the shores hundreds of years ago. They (as Mohamed was reportedly said to have beheaded 600 people himself) would behead the males (husbands) and rape their wives in the blood still on the ground.
Islam history
More from Mohamad
Why are child brides a blind spot for humanity?
Heck I'm was against the BS for the invasion of Iraq etc and still am