Nonduality VS creating your reality

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I agree with you. Though it is a discovery for each person to find. We all have to shed and then shed again.

You have to shut down all meaningful exchange between others to do your shedding?

originally posted by: Bluesma
You have to shut down all meaningful exchange between others to do your shedding?

Is that what you are seeking?
What would you consider a 'meaningful exchange'?

You want to get something out of it?
Non duality points to the fact that that there is nothing to get! And no one to get it!

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Bluesma
You have to shut down all meaningful exchange between others to do your shedding?

Is that what you are seeking?
What would you consider a 'meaningful exchange'?

You want to get something out of it?
Non duality points to the fact that that there is nothing to get! And no one to get it!

I am not seeking anything! We've been through this before. I'm enjoying the illusion of duality, and feel no reason to escape experiencing it. Your inability to respect others is one of the reasons I will never embrace nonduality as a religion.
I see the results in the behavior that arises from it.

The reality of non-duality just is, no reason to cling and proselytize.

a reply to: Bluesma

I don't think duality is the illusion. Multiple individuals create a very various Flora and Fauna and all of them have tiny and big spirits.
All is one is a metaphor in a way usefull, but when it is all you want to see very limitating.

a reply to: Bluesma
It would be an impossibly for you to embrace non duality as a religion - that would make two - 'you' embracing 'something'.
Non duality is not two.
And non duality cannot be made into a religion.

It is an interesting thing. The true experience of non-duality cannot be made into a religion because the experience is known beyond belief.
However, the THOUGHT of nonduality; or imagining the world to be one, THAT can be made into a religion.

There is a wonderful nonduality teacher who goes by the name of Jeff Foster. He used to describe how he made nonduality into a religion.

He had an awakening experience where he glimpsed oneness for one moment. But that moment was short lives and he spent months making his thoughts about that moment experience a religion or a memory which was believed. You see how cunning the ego is? It makes the undeniable a thought. A memory. "I" am one. This is a paradox because there is no I.
He shares his story here..
www.lifewithoutacentre.com...

And this www.lifewithoutacentre.com...

Jeff used to be B..

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Bluesma

I don't think duality is the illusion. Multiple individuals create a very various Flora and Fauna and all of them have tiny and big spirits.
All is one is a metaphor in a way usefull, but when it is all you want to see very limitating.

I experience non-duality constantly, but it feels like a "base" of some sort. (I hate trying to put it in words, for the very act of doing so falsifies it).

But then there is a sort of lower level, of duality, of self and not self, and all other forms of duality which is the realm of experiencing Relation.

(not to you, Peeple- )


It is a religion if you are going around trying to convince others to see it.
I know toads exist, I like them very much. They are always around here. But some people do not enjoy them, so I feel no need to bring them up to their faces constantly to convince them they are there.




Hell, if some like to experience relation right now (which necessitates separation) then why do you insist on trying to turn their focus away??? Why not just observe silently?

a reply to: Andy1144

Now this is what nonduality would usually say about this.
This is all BS. There is no one to manifest, and no reality, therefore this law is completely useless. All there is, is this moment.

If there is no reality, then there is no truth, which would mean that everything is a lie including their own teachings.

Similar frequencies stick together - the scientific term is "resonance". The Spiritual term is "karma" or "Law of Attraction" - the Light you shine is the Light you see - if you are red with anger, then that is how you are painting your world/Life.


Check out Anita Moorjani's NDE (link) about how she had cancer , was in the hospital, left her body, gained an understanding of Law of Attraction, and cured herself.


I believe that Reality is The Unity of All Things. Everyone is a "part of" reality just like all of the colors make up a rainbow but is also the rainbow itself.

Reality is expressing itself, and you are a part of reality and Reality is becoming more aware of itself. Love/Compassion/respecting Everyone - The Golden Rule "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" - is important for Harmony and Peace.


Love! Love! Love!
Unity! Unity! Unity!