The New Order and Mankind's March to Destruction

The history of civilized humanity traces itself back several thousands of years. From the area in Mesopotamia kingdoms spread out around the globe.

At times world powers would arise that would rule huge swaths of land, many times encompassing many kingdoms. One example would be Hellenistic Greece. Under the rule of a young ruler, Alexander the Great, the warring factions were combined and he went on to conquer a large portion of Asia.

Perhaps a better example would be that of Rome. Its dominion was incredible and took it, at its peak, half of Great Britain, all of western Europe, and everything surrounding the Mediterranean.

In modern history after WWI a League of Nations was introduced to the world. Its goal? To broker peace between the nations and prevent another world war. But that was impossible, and it became basically non-existent and pointless during WWII, after which the United Nations emerged.

In June 1945, the preamble to its charter was put forth and its stated goal was to "save succeeding generations from the scourge of war.".

Its original member nations after WWII were to combine and unify their "strength to maintain international peace and security."

A recent question was asked in this forum as to why this "New Order" is evil. And a recent thread spoke about the prophecy regarding its rise.

This thread will deal with man-made government from the view-point of the Bible. I understand that many people don't believe in it, and thus the following will probably not be for you.

In a public discourse broadcast to tens of thousands of people in 1942, during the height of WWII, Bible prophecy was used to show that after the war the League of Nations would be revived as the United Nations. That this "new order" was in fact a counterfeit kingdom that would falsely claim to bring peace and security to the nations. Its inspiration, the Bible reveals is demonic. And the intentions of the superhuman demonic overlords of the earth are not to gather them for peace, rather to gather them in opposition of Jehovah and his son who is king, Jesus Christ.

The book of Revelation reveals to us quite succinctly that all human rule is actually controlled by the invisible spirit ruler of the world, Satan the Devil...

Now the wild beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were like those of a bear, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority. - Revelation 13:2

The dragon, is Satan. He is the real power behind the throne and authority of the world's rulers. None of them are divinely inspired. In fact prophecy tells us they are all set up in opposition to Jehovah and his anointed one:

The kings of the earth take their stand
And high officials gather together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one.
They say: “Let us tear off their shackles
And throw off their ropes!”
-Psalm 2:2,3.

Since the end of WWI the nations have not gathered together to form peace and security. They have not demilitarized their nations. In fact the world is now more militarized than any other time in human history. The United States, the world power, itself has formed a standing army that spreads its tentacles throughout the entire world.

Why cannot the peace beast acheive real peace and security as it was told it would then? Because the rule rulers of the world do not want peace on earth. They want war. Their ultimate aim is the destruction of all humankind.

And that is why the "New Order" which is a conterfit of God's real government that will bring peace to earth, is evil. No doubt, there are member nations, and have been secretaries-general over the years who really had the aim and goal of unifiying the world's leaders.

But Holy Scripture and prophecy show us why they fail.

It also states that the demon rulers of the world are not unifying mankind and arming them to peace, rather for the endgame, the ultimate confrontation against God's people:

They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty. “Look! I am coming as a thief. Happy is the one who stays awake and keeps his outer garments, so that he may not walk naked and people look upon his shamefulness.” And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Armageddon. - Revelation 16:14-16.

a reply to: JackReyes

ATS Thread All Roads Lead to Rome

Are you aware of this mega thread on ATS several years ago?

Since the end of WWI the nations have not gathered together to form peace and security. They have not demilitarized their nations.

You really need to do some homework on the League of Nations.
WW2 was a continuation of WW1, Germany wasn't invaded their cities never got bombed, they felt cheated and bitter, as evil as Hitler was he was a man of action not the typical politician who are men of words, Hitler would say something and do it. During his rise to power before becoming chancellor he stated he would abolish the treated of Versailles.

To prevent the risk of war again the League of Nations set up an appeasement policy, Hitler sees this as weakness and went about his business to develop Lebensraum (living space).
Italy left the League of Nations as well as Japan to pursue their goals of imperialistic domination.

So the League of Nations were a coward bunch of countries that did everything in their power to prevent war, when in fact war was inevitable because WW2 was in fact the continuation of WW1.

a reply to: muSSang

It is quite common knowledge that the Treaty of Verassile lead to the conditions of WWII. And not a few statesmen noted that the League of Nations was a pact between countries that would pretend to cooperate with each other (not the least of which was Hitler), while doing whatever-so they wanted. In fact one person stated that it was only a reprieve of twenty years of war, which he was right, almost to the day.

True to the prophetic word here:

(Daniel 11:27) “As regards these two kings, their heart will be inclined to do what is bad, and they will sit at one table speaking lies to each other. But nothing will succeed, because the end is yet for the time appointed.

Of course for you to understand the that prophecy in full, you would have to do your homework.


For you to imply, or imagine I am not aware of these facts is quite disingenuous.

Nevertheless, that does not negate the way history looks at the events, and how they really unfolded in real life, and how they have been in fulfillment of direct Bible prophecy.

Thank you for taking your time to comment in this thread. I hope to hear more from you, and have a good interchange of knowledge.

From your words about my needing to study more, it sounds like you feel like you have a lot you can teach me. After my decades of study I am sure there is no doubt about it.

originally posted by: Granite
a reply to: JackReyes

ATS Thread All Roads Lead to Rome

Are you aware of this mega thread on ATS several years ago?

That was the best thread i ever read on this site. Why was it closed? There was no reason given. Being closed of course no one can comment on it and this mostly consigns it to obscurity. Strange stuff from ATS.

originally posted by: muSSang

Since the end of WWI the nations have not gathered together to form peace and security. They have not demilitarized their nations.

You really need to do some homework on the League of Nations.
WW2 was a continuation of WW1, Germany wasn't invaded their cities never got bombed, they felt cheated and bitter, as evil as Hitler was he was a man of action not the typical politician who are men of words, Hitler would say something and do it. During his rise to power before becoming chancellor he stated he would abolish the treated of Versailles.

To prevent the risk of war again the League of Nations set up an appeasement policy, Hitler sees this as weakness and went about his business to develop Lebensraum (living space).
Italy left the League of Nations as well as Japan to pursue their goals of imperialistic domination.

So the League of Nations were a coward bunch of countries that did everything in their power to prevent war, when in fact war was inevitable because WW2 was in fact the continuation of WW1.

It is all too sadly looking likely

a reply to: DrunkYogi

Another good book on the subject is: The Two Babylons. If you've never heard of it it's worth looking up.

While the RCC and old Rome have a lot in common it goes a lot farther back than that. Actually all the way to Babylon.

>the ultimate confrontation against God's people:

Jew detected.
Your messiah is yesterday's fashion. So sad, too bad, bye-bye. The hoi polloi will not be mystified by dead Jews anymore. Satan is the new sh|t, get with the program.

originally posted by: Demonarch
>the ultimate confrontation against God's people:

Jew detected.
Your messiah is yesterday's fashion. So sad, too bad, bye-bye. The hoi polloi will not be mystified by dead Jews anymore. Satan is the new sh|t, get with the program.

Jesus is the vanquisher of Satan. He is the conqueror of the world and will complete conquer it, vanquish it in the most complete sense in the near future.

Do not image that he is a fragile person, or a baby in a manager. He is a mighty king who wields tremendous power, and will soon use it to wage war with all the kings of the world and Satan himself and will completely and utterly vanquish them.

(Revelation 6:2) . . .And I saw, and look! a white horse, and the one seated on it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went out conquering and to complete his conquest.


(Revelation 17:14) . . .These will battle with the Lamb, but because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those with him who are called and chosen and faithful will do so.”

(Revelation 19:11, 15) I saw heaven opened, and look! a white horse. And the one seated on it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness...And out of his mouth protrudes a sharp, long sword with which to strike the nations, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. Moreover, he treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.