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a reply to: Wide-Eyes
No, I don't live in Europe, though I'm not quite sure what that has to do with anything.
There are two ways this is going to end. IMNSHO, of course.
1) Syria is stabilized by whatever means necessary, up to and including knocking heads together. Then these people are able to go home and rebuild their country in whatever fashion fits them. Is Europe, as a whole, willing to pay that butchers bill? Is the U.S.? Since the problems are largely, though not solely, the fault of Europe and the U.S., seems to me we ought to be willing to fix the problem...
Or...
2) Y'all allow the refugees to stay, and attempt to integrate them into your various societies. ...and that will, of course, open up a whole wonderchest of problems that no one wants. You, or the vast majority of the refugees. The refugees, for the most part, just want a safe place to raise their children, and live their lives.
Those, as I see it, are the only two options open to us.
No, I don't live in Europe, though I'm not quite sure what that has to do with anything.
There are two ways this is going to end. IMNSHO, of course.
1) Syria is stabilized by whatever means necessary, up to and including knocking heads together. Then these people are able to go home and rebuild their country in whatever fashion fits them. Is Europe, as a whole, willing to pay that butchers bill? Is the U.S.? Since the problems are largely, though not solely, the fault of Europe and the U.S., seems to me we ought to be willing to fix the problem...
Or...
2) Y'all allow the refugees to stay, and attempt to integrate them into your various societies. ...and that will, of course, open up a whole wonderchest of problems that no one wants. You, or the vast majority of the refugees. The refugees, for the most part, just want a safe place to raise their children, and live their lives.
Those, as I see it, are the only two options open to us.
a reply to: Wide-Eyes
Then its up to you, and them, to try and get them to assimilate to the culture, as best you can.
We have the same issue here in the States with immigrants from places all around the world. Assimilation takes a while, in many cases it'll be a generational thing. Like it, don't like it, it's the reality of the situation.
Ideally, of course it would be better if they were able to stay in their homes. Don't you think they'd like that, too?
But when artillery shells/bombs/death squads make that impossible? What do you do? ...and oh by the way, you've got a couple of kids to worry about...
You try to get the hell out of the way, any way you can. If that means running for the border of another country, so be it.
No one likes it.
But one way or another, it needs dealing with.
Then its up to you, and them, to try and get them to assimilate to the culture, as best you can.
We have the same issue here in the States with immigrants from places all around the world. Assimilation takes a while, in many cases it'll be a generational thing. Like it, don't like it, it's the reality of the situation.
Ideally, of course it would be better if they were able to stay in their homes. Don't you think they'd like that, too?
But when artillery shells/bombs/death squads make that impossible? What do you do? ...and oh by the way, you've got a couple of kids to worry about...
You try to get the hell out of the way, any way you can. If that means running for the border of another country, so be it.
No one likes it.
But one way or another, it needs dealing with.
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