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Black Lives Matter - White Lives Matter (boooo)- We All Matter.

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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Goldenwilys
I don't understand how this happens. A man speaking felt the need to apologize for saying all lives matter because he got booed for including white people. Backwards world we live in

This is why I hate politicians and protesters
A politician will apologize for anything to get a vote
A protester for being a sheeple and not having there own voice

Shame on all of you

www.msnbc.com...


Your link doesn't even say what your claiming.



From the Link :


“I know, I know … Let me talk a little bit … Black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter,” O’Malley answered earning boos and shouts from the protesters and gasps from the rest of the audience.


Maybe read the whole article?
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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 02:21 PM
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Its obvious white lives matter. The system of white supremacy is proof. Black lives matter was in response to this and a collective of voices not being heard. Say what you will , history shows exactly how we got here but some want to forget the facts. If you dont know what white supremacy is, think of it as a rope to climb a mountain.
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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: xuenchen

Point is, they were protesting before the statement "all lives matter" was made.

Besides, from your link.


"When some people rejoin with 'All Lives Matter' they misunderstand the problem, but not because their message is untrue. It is true that all lives matter, but it is equally true that not all lives are understood to matter, which is precisely why it is most important to name the lives that have not mattered, and are struggling to matter in the way they deserve," Butler said in an interview with The New York Times. "If we jump too quickly to the universal formulation, 'all lives matter,' then we miss the fact that black people have not yet been included in the idea of 'all lives.'"


I actually agree, that the slogan "black lives matter" doesn't get the protesters point of view across in an efficient manner. But I guess 'black lives matter' is easier to chant than 'black lives matter too.


Yet, I never hear of white people killed by hateful black people. I never hear about white people who are brutalized or killed by cops. I only ever hear about the black people who are killed by white people or white cops. I only ever hear of racism from these groups as well.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: magnetik
Its obvious white lives matter. The system of white supremacy is proof. Black lives matter was in response to this and a collective of voices not being heard. Say what you will , history shows exactly how we got here but some want to forget the facts. If you dont know what white supremacy is, think of it as a rope to climb a mountain.


What about Hispanics? Or native Americans? I sort of get the "white supremacy" argument, but their ARE other lives besides "blacks" or is the argument no other race or people has gone through anything bad besides Blacks? Why do no other lives matter?

ALL lives matter WOULD get that point across without segregating every other people on the planet. Ironic what people are doing the segregating in this situation...


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posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: Goldenwilys

Copied from a Reddit post:

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.

The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally.

Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.

TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

The race that complains about being segregated, do a lot of their own segregating.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 03:33 PM
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You want your life to matter? Then stop embracing cultural practices that more or less make you a pimple on society's backside. Get your education rather than cutting class because doing your work and being a good student is "acting white." Don't embrace the gang lifestyle; they aren't your daddy and will lead you into a life of crime and an early grave. Stop hooking up and find a girl to be your partner in life and be the father you never had.

Sure your life won't be easy, but at the end of it, you may hand your kids up to a much better spot than you started in, and they'll reward you by doing the same for their kids. That's how it works.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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You want your life to matter? Then stop embracing cultural practices that more or less make you a pimple on society's backside. Get your education rather than cutting class because doing your work and being a good student is "acting white." Don't embrace the gang lifestyle; they aren't your daddy and will lead you into a life of crime and an early grave. Stop hooking up and find a girl to be your partner in life and be the father you never had.
a reply to: ketsuko


Here, Here
But you know, that's not politically correct to say.



posted on Jul, 20 2015 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons

You want your life to matter? Then stop embracing cultural practices that more or less make you a pimple on society's backside. Get your education rather than cutting class because doing your work and being a good student is "acting white." Don't embrace the gang lifestyle; they aren't your daddy and will lead you into a life of crime and an early grave. Stop hooking up and find a girl to be your partner in life and be the father you never had.

a reply to: ketsuko


Here, Here
But you know, that's not politically correct to say.


The truth is almost never politically correct to say.



posted on Jul, 21 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
a reply to: Goldenwilys

Copied from a Reddit post:

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

The problem is that the statement "I should get my fair share" had an implicit "too" at the end: "I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else." But your dad's response treated your statement as though you meant "only I should get my fair share", which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that "everyone should get their fair share," while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

That's the situation of the "black lives matter" movement. Culture, laws, the arts, religion, and everyone else repeatedly suggest that all lives should matter. Clearly, that message already abounds in our society.

The problem is that, in practice, the world doesn't work the way. You see the film Nightcrawler? You know the part where Renee Russo tells Jake Gyllenhal that she doesn't want footage of a black or latino person dying, she wants news stories about affluent white people being killed? That's not made up out of whole cloth -- there is a news bias toward stories that the majority of the audience (who are white) can identify with. So when a young black man gets killed (prior to the recent police shootings), it's generally not considered "news", while a middle-aged white woman being killed is treated as news. And to a large degree, that is accurate -- young black men are killed in significantly disproportionate numbers, which is why we don't treat it as anything new. But the result is that, societally, we don't pay as much attention to certain people's deaths as we do to others. So, currently, we don't treat all lives as though they matter equally.

Just like asking dad for your fair share, the phrase "black lives matter" also has an implicit "too" at the end: it's saying that black lives should also matter. But responding to this by saying "all lives matter" is willfully going back to ignoring the problem. It's a way of dismissing the statement by falsely suggesting that it means "only black lives matter," when that is obviously not the case. And so saying "all lives matter" as a direct response to "black lives matter" is essentially saying that we should just go back to ignoring the problem.

TL;DR: The phrase "Black lives matter" carries an implicit "too" at the end; it's saying that black lives should also matter. Saying "all lives matter" is dismissing the very problems that the phrase is trying to draw attention to.


UNLESS you are specifically mentioned "implied inclusion" dont mean anything. If they meant TOO they should had said it,but they didnt. Implying that they dont care about other lives.

This is a country that sues people of not being Clear in their meanings. IMPLIED Does not LEGALLY have a foot to stand on when you are going by the letter of the law.




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