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Have we ever created an entire universe and been ignorant to it?

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posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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In the world we live, it is said that time is just a measurement of our perception of speed. However on the flipside you could consider that this universe we currently live in has long been created and destroyed in an instant, but this instant to us is some billions of years. Now at the LHC, we are testing what we believe to have created our universe in the first place, if we are right that the big bang did infact create our universe, do you think we may have created universes in the LHC?



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: SuspiciousTom

Have we ever created an entire universe and been ignorant to it?

I did once, in my bathtub.
Didn't last long though.



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: SuspiciousTom

New universes may be bubbling up
continuously LHC or no LHC; as
apparently space-time is inherently
unstable.

(if it was stable we wouldn't be here....
evolved from entropy that we are).

Kev



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 10:18 AM
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There is a fair chance given things like holographic reality theories, quantum indeterminacy and ideas like energy and matter states only as observed. We in fact create facets of reality millions of times a day, in effect creating universes as we go and basically unaware we are doing it. After all how do you know something is real until you look at it? Is it really there until you look? Was it ever there until you looked?



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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The short answer is yes, it is why stuff like Star wars is so popular and meaningful to its fan. By the virtue of their belief, their love, that particular universe is now a real one.



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: SuspiciousTom

You might be creating a new universe every time you exercise free will.

Every action you take generates a new world line that has a new set of what is possible. This world line and it's set of possibilities is unique in the universe and it (theoretically) propagates forever and slowly loses contact with all other unique world lines.

I guess you need to define the term "universe" more completely.



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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Everything defined in Existance or is Observable is part of the Universe. Therefore anything that does exist or will exist will be in the Universe.

And all the HLC is doing is rapidly expending energy. All matter has a set amount of energy in it. When you burn something such as wood. You are consuming its energy to generate a chemical process for that energy to be released.
Once the energy is released there is nothing that can return that energy from its current state.

Now lets relate this to HLC, Since entropy exists in the 3rd law of therodynamics. This means that all the particles generated by HLC are remains of what would be a drained particle.

You understand what im saying by all this? HLC consumes the particles energy by spinning around at speeds close to the speed of light. When it smashes the particles together. A large amount of energy is expended at the moment of particle collapse. When it reforms, The fragments of these energy drained particles reform at a rapid rate as a newly formed particle.

However, the energy used to expend it is lost forever. Therefore HLC is only generated duding particles. Or another definition. Dying particles. The particles only exist for a blip of a second because they are simply to unstable to hold itself together. The thing is, Every particle before being smashed together has a set amount of energy.

You could have 2 oxygen atoms or 2 electrons or protons and neither of the protons or electrons would have the same amount of energy as it's pair. So one electron can have more energy than the other electron.
This means the combination of these 2 same particles will unlikely bond into the same drained particle when collided. It will always be slightly different. In theory you could generate 1 million new particles from just a pair of electrons alone.

In a Universe that exists with a big bang it is impossible for entropy to be reversed. So even if it makes a pocket dimension * If you believe a single particle holds a micro-copy of the universe* It wouldn't matter because in the theory of the big bang there is nothng to replenish energy from entropy. If the big bang really happened. The next Universe after ours would be smaller. Because the lost energy from entropy. And the cycle would continue until no Universe exists.

If you believe the Universe only exists for a short time and then will end for all of eternity. Never to have existance again. Then the big bang would make sense. However, in a Universe that has existed for eternity that never had begining or an end because matter has always existed here its very unlikely that the HLC is generating Universes.



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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Infinate universes are created and destroyed in every instant within every atom of creation. . . .Thats just the natural order of things. So worry not its all just an elaborate illusion.



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 11:48 AM
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Time actually doesn't exist. It's a mental/emotional manufactured mental construct so our senses can understand our environment.

Or that's what time travelers want us to believe. The cosmos is very mysterious to talking monkeys!



posted on Jul, 17 2015 @ 11:51 AM
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Well you see the universe is infinate in every way!



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