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originally posted by: Rosinitiate
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
reply to: TDawg61
And what is a webamite? Are you insulting me?
I'm pretty sure a webamite is an entity or mite that spins "webs" or singular a "weba" (hence its name), in a thread to distract from the actual topic. You see good sir, you are not allowed to make assertions that IS and Israel are the biggest threat without sources but it is ok to make the same assertions about Iran. The easy thing to do is just stop being a webamite. Ok?
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
They don't have to use the bomb on anyone. They just have to make the damn thing and then give it to which ever group (Hezbollah, etc) they feel like.
If that happens, which these deals specifically prevent from happening in the first place (but our old policies conceded was the eventual endgame scenario) then the world will hold Iran responsible.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: the2ofusr1
They don't have to use the bomb on anyone. They just have to make the damn thing and then give it to which ever group (Hezbollah, etc) they feel like.
Funny that the US is the only country to have ever used nuclear bombs on another country....
Lets be honest,the only reason the only reason a nuclear Iran seem to be a treat is Israel saying so.....
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
reply to: TDawg61
And what is a webamite? Are you insulting me?
I'm pretty sure a webamite is an entity or mite that spins "webs" or singular a "weba" (hence its name), in a thread to distract from the actual topic. You see good sir, you are not allowed to make assertions that IS and Israel are the biggest threat without sources but it is ok to make the same assertions about Iran. The easy thing to do is just stop being a webamite. Ok?
Alright. Since 1947 Israel has been under attack. One might even argue since 1946 with the bombing of the King David Hotel.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
A recent report titled Measurement and Economic Analysis of Urban Poverty showed that between 44.5 percent and 55 percent of Iran's urban population lives below the poverty line
www.borgenmagazine.com...
In spite of the State secrecy and lack of official reliable data, FIDH and LDDHI are able to conclude from credible and domestic sources that more than 50% of the 75 million plus population live under the poverty line. Recent investigative reports have indicated that the population’s purchasing power has fallen by 72% over eight years from 2005 to 2013.
www.fidh.org...
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: wildapache
What amazes me is the complete denial of proliferation.
The fact of proliferation is undeniable. While it was probably impossible to block China's development, perhaps even India's, this could have and should have occurred with Pakistan.
Obviously, Pakistan developed due to India, India if fear of China(?), now it's Iran's turn.
Already, The Saudis have said if Iran develops 'nuclear capabilities', they will as well,if they haven't already. The Non-proliferation agreement is dead and buried. It has no force/consequence backing it up and if the international community fails to stop Iran's nuclear development, be that the U.S. or any other combination of nations, then a free-for-all will ensue.
All the arguments of "fairness" and "what abouts" supporting Iran pale beside the consequence of a nuclear powered middle east.
originally posted by: FyreByrd
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
A recent report titled Measurement and Economic Analysis of Urban Poverty showed that between 44.5 percent and 55 percent of Iran's urban population lives below the poverty line
www.borgenmagazine.com...
In spite of the State secrecy and lack of official reliable data, FIDH and LDDHI are able to conclude from credible and domestic sources that more than 50% of the 75 million plus population live under the poverty line. Recent investigative reports have indicated that the population’s purchasing power has fallen by 72% over eight years from 2005 to 2013.
www.fidh.org...
Thank you for the excellent sources - I will look further into my referenced authors claims on the low poverty rate in Iran as I have no personal knowledge on the subject. These are excellent references that rebut his claims and I thank you for taking the time to find and share them with us.
And thank you for addressing the substance of the OP, my interest in two facts mentioned in an interview.
In 2005, poverty was 1.45% in Iran using a poverty line of US$1.25 per day (PPP). World Bank projections estimate that only 0.7% of the population (or half a million people) lived under this poverty line in 2010, although a large proportion of people are living close to it.
Iran ranks second in the world in natural gas reserves and fourth in proven crude oil reserves. Aggregate GDP and government revenues still depend to a large extent on oil revenues and are therefore intrinsically volatile.
originally posted by: MrSpad
And the US has not given up the idea of Regime change they are just going about in a new way. Iran's isolation helped keep the Ayatollahs in power. They will not last the decade now.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
They "prevent" things for 15 years. While still allowing the centrifuges to spin, and allowing Iran to still operate it's hardened facility.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
Already, The Saudis have said if Iran develops 'nuclear capabilities', they will as well,if they haven't already. The Non-proliferation agreement is dead and buried. It has no force/consequence backing it up and if the international community fails to stop Iran's nuclear development, be that the U.S. or any other combination of nations, then a free-for-all will ensue.