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originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Kojiro
a reply to: NavyDoc
Then perhaps you can explain this, because this is your statement that I've been working from:
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Shrug. I think it points out that even transgender people have their prejudices and hangups which sort of indicates that non transgender people shouldn't be criticized for theirs if you guys have the same issues between each other.
Which my point is: No. It does not indicate that.
So the discomfort that non-transgender people may feel is acceptable to you then?
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Kojiro
a reply to: NavyDoc
Then perhaps you can explain this, because this is your statement that I've been working from:
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Shrug. I think it points out that even transgender people have their prejudices and hangups which sort of indicates that non transgender people shouldn't be criticized for theirs if you guys have the same issues between each other.
Which my point is: No. It does not indicate that.
So the discomfort that non-transgender people may feel is acceptable to you then?
No, but I understand it and feel that it is up to each of us who are transgender to educate people so as to help them become more comfortable with us.
That is what my parents and I had to do throughout school and I learned a lot about bridging gaps in understanding of understanding this issue.
A lot of it really comes down to people's misconceptions about what being trans is. And in my case the parents had to meet us and those misconceptions faded away and as such so did their objections.
But had we handled it differently, shouting them down and had i not presented myself in a way which helped them be more comfortable accepting that i wasn't that different than their daughter then there would likely have been a negative outcome. Instead there was a positive one and of that i am very happy.
originally posted by: EKron
a reply to: NavyDoc
Your spiffy treatise there is referencing HRT as administered to non- operatives. What can you provide that shows the treatment for a natal woman with both ovaries removed which would be similar to the post operative transsexual person.
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: JadeStar
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Kojiro
a reply to: NavyDoc
Then perhaps you can explain this, because this is your statement that I've been working from:
originally posted by: NavyDoc
Shrug. I think it points out that even transgender people have their prejudices and hangups which sort of indicates that non transgender people shouldn't be criticized for theirs if you guys have the same issues between each other.
Which my point is: No. It does not indicate that.
So the discomfort that non-transgender people may feel is acceptable to you then?
No, but I understand it and feel that it is up to each of us who are transgender to educate people so as to help them become more comfortable with us.
That is what my parents and I had to do throughout school and I learned a lot about bridging gaps in understanding of understanding this issue.
A lot of it really comes down to people's misconceptions about what being trans is. And in my case the parents had to meet us and those misconceptions faded away and as such so did their objections.
But had we handled it differently, shouting them down and had i not presented myself in a way which helped them be more comfortable accepting that i wasn't that different than their daughter then there would likely have been a negative outcome. Instead there was a positive one and of that i am very happy.
Shrug. If you're not comfortable with it, why should they?
originally posted by: NavyDoc
They'd very likely be non-deployable.
originally posted by: JadeStar
One thing i have been wondering though....are there any FTMs on ATS? If so i'd love to hear from you. if you don't feel comfortable being out on ATS please U2U me i will never divulge who you are or anything else to anyone.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: NavyDoc
You are supposed to the expert on this one 'Doc'.
You know damn well women are given the option of taking birth control pills continually to prevent the menstrual cycle while on deployment.
To ensure safety, women desiring to reduce or stop menstruation should consult their physician or other healthcare provider prior to using any type of contraception. General and serious side effects from contraceptive use include bloating, nausea, irregular bleeding, blood clots, heart attack, stroke, high blood pressure, other heart diseases, certain cancers, liver disease, gallbladder disease, and defects in carbohydrate and lipid metabolism. These risks are higher among women who smoke and/or are over the age of 35
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: JadeStar
One thing i have been wondering though....are there any FTMs on ATS? If so i'd love to hear from you. if you don't feel comfortable being out on ATS please U2U me i will never divulge who you are or anything else to anyone.
I know of at least one but I turned him onto Susans Place (after a particularly rough transgender thread here) and I haven't seen him since. He wasn't necessarily in the closet but I feel weird just posting his name on here. Hopefully he'll see this and chime in.
originally posted by: galaga
But they shower together.
originally posted by: EKron
a reply to: 2wheelvet
Thanks for your service.
The quote in the OP says the military is not considering those that haven't completed transition so there won't be anything other than females showering with the other females, etc. All the back and forth in this thread was mostly about allowing in those that were in-betweeners