Russian Bombers Fly Near US on July 4th

originally posted by: PredatorCrackling
a reply to: WeAre0ne



it doesnt matter that you as a citizen dont know that US government is planing eventual war with Russia

Looks to me like Russia the one planing a war with the US. The US is target number one in Russian media, in the US Russia is never mentioned for the most part and the media is not painting Russia as an enemy.

originally posted by: bjarneorn
a reply to: WeAre0ne

I suspect, that these runs have nothing to do with Russian "threat" against the US. But rather is a dispute between the countries as to where "international borders" lie. If the Russians didn't do this, the US is sure to "move" it's "international boarders" a little further out.

There are similar flights being done all the time, against Russia ...

Can you post some examples?

a reply to: defiythelie



Here you go - Russia protests increased NATO recce flights

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

NATO Fighters protecting their own airspace is a long way off from the U.S. flying mock bombing runs with nuclear cruise missiles. This little routine flight 40 miles off California's coast could have seen Cali in flames and bases as far as Area 51 completely in Ruins if they launched their missiles that they no doubt are carrying around.

a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

so you are presuming:

1/ NATO flights are all fighters on defence
2/ Russian flights are all carrying missiles

There is nothing supporting #2, and if you did just a smidgen or actual research you would find there is plenty of information contradicting #1 - eg: Russian jet intercepts US spy plane (from RT.com)

Here's an article that lists some recent interceptions of US jets by Russian fighters at defencetech.org

These sort of fly bys happen all the time. It's good for both parties: Russians get to test response times, Americans get to practice response times. It also doesn't happen with just the USA.

sigh, flying tactical bombers is a last ditch effort for diplomacy...

Since no one on ats can prove to me they know for sure why those bombers were skirting the edge of the Alaskan coast, and another set was off the CALI. coast on the 4th of July we do not really know why they were flying tactical nuclear bombers headed to our coast..

I will say thou I highly doubt those bombers would have managed to drop their payload even if they wanted too without some kind of fighter escort. Of course we do not know if that occurred I do not think it is possible..

In any case I am not sure what to think with allot of the members saying this is not a big deal, a surprise Russian exercise on july 4th, is not odd or sending a message?

If most of you have not noticed yet, US and Russian relations are about as bad as it was in the 80's... Also it is getting worse..

a reply to: Bicent76

They've almost always used bombers for their missions. They have a very small number of dedicated aircraft, unlike the US, so they use bombers. We used to until we developed dedicated platforms.

So how is this different from before? Relations were crap, and they flew off our coasts, around our ships, and even sent ELINT trawlers to watch space launches.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I hear ya, Zaph. I know you like to keep it down to Earth, I just find it an odd symbolism this time around..


Just another step towards further escalation.