Die at will

Meh, if there were an important rule book about the meaning of it all it would be imprinted upon our very selves.

As it stands, dropped into this weird place to kill or die is our lot... so it looks like any salvation will have to come from our own acts and thoughts.

But in keeping with the thought about rules... it seems it is important we kill (to) eat, excrete and reproduce, as that's the sum total of our natural instructions... all the rest is extra.

Some convoluted thoughts about god time traveling and killing himself to make new universes (or whatever) negates the title of god.

I do like the (certain sects of) Hindu and Buddhist ideas that the only way we can approach the god concept in our current form is to discuss what god is not... as one cannot say how god IS with any hope of accuracy.

Skoal.

a reply to: Temudjin

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Actually you are correct. Jesus arose though the skylight before the Roman centurions came to fetch him. Its was his twin A'issa who was taken instead. The "likeness" of Jesus fell upon his face, and Jesus arose into the Heavens.

a reply to: Belcastro

What if jesus was a mythical figure and god didn't really exist?

originally posted by: Belcastro

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Belcastro

originally posted by: ProxyBear
IF SO, Could God from the future kill himself to create a new heaven and new earth?

There are trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of plants in the cosmos. So why would he have to kill himself?

to use as a quantum event that would be branching out of existence. he would kill himself to either alter or edit the history of the universe.
but to him it would be as a dream and he would surivie in one universe etc or die in another.

for being the ultimate entity in all of existence, he really likes to make things hard for himself. like, facepalm hard. so hard that you kinda squint at him like "really? THAT'S how your gonna do it?"

What if it was the only way.. to actually create a new heaven and new earth?
an alternate universe?

Why do that when you have an experiment functioning in the third dimension and seems to be working?

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum
a reply to: Belcastro

What if jesus was a mythical figure and god didn't really exist?

Then both are mythical figures as God wouldn't exist to create the Jesus (Christ Consciousness) Format Inlay.

a reply to: MystikMushroom
Where do you think Jesus was during the time period of ages 19 and 29? He was traveling with Joseph of Arimathea; (the one that lives between two hills/Jeruselem); a wealthy shipping merchant of precious metals. This Joseph was his patron and paid for his education since a child (Egypt) and traveled to Brittany, India.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum
a reply to: Belcastro

What if jesus was a mythical figure and god didn't really exist?

Then both are mythical figures as God wouldn't exist to create the Jesus (Christ Consciousness) Format Inlay.

True, but mythical figures have all sorts of possibilities as to their origins. Such as being a conglomeration of real people who might have existed, exaggerated stories etc, all rolled into one. As well as the possibility of simply being made up entirely.

Something that doesn't and never has existed, is just that.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

It wouldn't surprise me if he visited India, read some of the Vedic texts and incorporated them into Judaism. The things attributed to him actually "saying" seem like watered down, comprehensible Indian philosophy that the people in Judea would be able to digest given their education level and religious upbringings.

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum
a reply to: Belcastro

What if jesus was a mythical figure and god didn't really exist?

Then both are mythical figures as God wouldn't exist to create the Jesus (Christ Consciousness) Format Inlay.

True, but mythical figures have all sorts of possibilities as to their origins. Such as being a conglomeration of real people who might have existed, exaggerated stories etc, all rolled into one. As well as the possibility of simply being made up entirely.
Something that doesn't and never has existed, is just that.

There are so many (at least nine) that fit that iconology, HORUS being just one of them. One fourth of the world doesn't worship the ideology of Horus; another Dogma is 'Christ consciousness' another is Hinduism. I do not know why; ever more so why Buddha is relegated to another claimer of a huge number in a belief system or Islam another third. Why the Dogma, none are true representatives to what the AUO intended. They are simply systems of belief indoctrinated by others to suppress and contain anothers human spirit.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum
a reply to: Belcastro

What if jesus was a mythical figure and god didn't really exist?

Then both are mythical figures as God wouldn't exist to create the Jesus (Christ Consciousness) Format Inlay.

True, but mythical figures have all sorts of possibilities as to their origins. Such as being a conglomeration of real people who might have existed, exaggerated stories etc, all rolled into one. As well as the possibility of simply being made up entirely.
Something that doesn't and never has existed, is just that.

There are so many (at least nine) that fit that iconology, HORUS being just one of them. One fourth of the world doesn't worship the ideology of Horus; another Dogma is 'Christ consciousness' another is Hinduism. I do not know why; ever more so why Buddha is relegated to another claimer of a huge number in a belief system or Islam another third. Why the Dogma, none are true representatives to what the AUO intended. They are simply systems of belief indoctrinated by others to suppress and contain anothers human spirit.

While there a few things there I doubt, I don't really disagree with the gist of it (allowing for some "poetic license" of course).

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: vethumanbeing

It wouldn't surprise me if he visited India, read some of the Vedic texts and incorporated them into Judaism. The things attributed to him actually "saying" seem like watered down, comprehensible Indian philosophy that the people in Judea would be able to digest given their education level and religious upbringings.

He did go to India; Joseph took him there with the purpose of assimilating his idea of a (to eventually be known as) the 'westernized' ideology of a single god he tried to combine with the eastern mythical plural: to make it even more complicated (ones own body=gods body). It didn't work. Western known as at this time (this would be Egyptian/Arabic/Persian/Roman Pagan idea of multiple Gods) could not understand the beauty of *eastern* a singular entity (Hinduism/Buddhism) that is not God; just the idea of. One Entity over all other minor god forms that are irrelevant as God does not exist; only the Universe as it describes itself exists. Hard concepts. Christianity remains a hard tack western religion (unfortunate) as that was not the plan. The Apostles were supposed to travel to the Orient east, not the Occident west (.Greece). If they had done so Paul never would have risen to destroy the original idea of "Christ Consciousness". It took the Hindi YOGIS to decipher Jesus's true message to all: "The kingdom of God is within you", meaning YOU ARE GODS EXPRESSION therefor you are God expressing itself as an individualized soul/product; you are validated.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

I wonder if anyone else has thought of this? I haven't run across the idea before so if anyone else has heard of it...

The swoon hypothesis is any of a number of ideas that aim to explain the resurrection of Jesus, proposing that Jesus did not die on the cross, but merely fell unconscious ("swooned"), and was later revived in the tomb in the same mortal body. This 200-year-old hypothesis is generally rejected by modern scholars.

There are some books listed at the bottom of the article.
Robert Graves and Joshua Podro (1957, in Jesus in Rome)
Holger Kersten (1994, in Jesus lived in India)
See also: The Lost Years of Jesus: The Life of Saint Issa

originally posted by: Cogito, Ergo Sum
a reply to: Belcastro

CES: What if jesus was a mythical figure and god didn't really exist?

VHB: Then both are mythical figures as God wouldn't exist to create the Jesus (Christ Consciousness) Format Inlay/overlay.

Cogito,Ergo Sum: True, but mythical figures have all sorts of possibilities as to their origins. Such as being a conglomeration of real people who might have existed, exaggerated stories etc, all rolled into one. As well as the possibility of simply being made up entirely.
Something that doesn't and never has existed, is just that.

VHB: There are so many (at least nine) that fit that iconology, HORUS being just one of them. One fourth of the world doesn't worship the ideology of Horus; another Dogma is 'Christ consciousness' another is Hinduism. I do not know why; ever more so why Buddha is relegated to another claimer of a huge number in a belief system or Islam another third. Why the Dogma, none are true representatives to what the AUO intended. They are simply systems of belief indoctrinated by others to suppress and contain anothers human spirit.

CES: While there a few things there I doubt, I don't really disagree with the gist of it (allowing for some "poetic license" of course).

We could start a new trend regarding 'worship' starring the Quabala as scripture; "The Church Of Horusology". Finding the funding to build the pyramids to exact size might be a problem; and without a FIGUREHEAD would have to resort to inventing something (sound familiar); anyone have a big sheet of linen?

a reply to: pthena
I also have the book "Jesus Lived in India" by Holger Kersten; fascinating read for those that are open minded. I would also add without blaming the circumstances of an unfortunate relocation : Mary Magdalene's remains for some reason wound up in what is now known as modern day France.

a reply to: Belcastro

You are close to the right idea, there are more than just one type of "Dream"...The brain is able to to conjure imagery based on the entirety of its perception in its existence. There is another form of "Dream" where your consciousness is separated from your physical experience, like astral walking, or seeing the future, or reliving the past. I don't believe its healthy to believe in God. If you place all of your beliefs inwards, you will find better results.