My kid has a voter registration form as "homework" to sign someone up. What should I do?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Welcome to the Obamanation. They can't do math in their heads anymore or recognize English but they can be good little Obama youth and go to riots, endorse candidates, and probably recite the communist manifesto soon.

don't loose that hat buddy. What ever you do don't loose that hat.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

What's the big difference what grade? It's just learning about the voting process. Or should we not mention it to them until they're old enough to vote?

a reply to: prisoner60863

I was a teacher in public school, I remember that doing this type of assignments was to teach children of their rights to vote under the constitution, usually during election year and to children in 4 grade that is when the constitution is covered.

But to have real candidates as political figures was not usual, the candidates were fellow students that were first run as candidates and then voted in primaries to follow presidential voting.

So as a parent do not be afraid of bringing the concern issue of having your child faced with an assignment that you do not feel right about it.

a reply to: diggindirt

Oh God pluheeese spare me. I'm sure these are photocopies so the kids can learn. Oh and you don't have to submit a voter registration card after filling it out. You can take it and throw it away if you want. They have them by the dozens in the post office. I can take a handful, fill them out with all kinds of nonsense then burn them and there's not a Damn thing anyone can do to me for it. Chill buddy.

Oh and btw, the school already has every kids social. You need it to register.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: prisoner60863

Just help your child with the assignment, what harm does knowing how to register to vote do to anyone?

Oh no kraztShot this is a cabalistic attempt to corral his daughter into a particular group don't you know that?

a reply to: dawnstar

These kids are NOT registering to vote. They're in middle school. They are learning about the voting process and how to fill out forms. The forms are not being submitted to the registrar.

a reply to: dawnstar

It's a lesson. You wouldn't have to give a real social. But I like how now this thread has tanked into a thread about identity theft.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

originally posted by: prisoner60863
I totally agree with the civics lesson, and we talk to her at home so she knows. On the other hand, to get a minor to get someone to sign up for a political party, I dont think it should be a mandatory homework assignment.

neither the title of this thread, or any of the posts suggest that it's not really registration applications that the kids are supposed to go and find someone to fill out. nor is there anything that says what is to happen to them after they are filled out.
maybe the author of the opt can comment and give some more information on the assignment but as of yet, I haven't seen anything to suggest that the teacher is asking kids to go out and ask adults to fill out the forms, along with a bunch of criticism for those who are speaking out against it.
use fake ss# or fake information all together, if it's the actually form you could be opening yourself up for legal prosecution. use the correct information and well you are opening yourself up for identity fraud.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Kids who are dependants on tax forms all need socials these days. My last child had one by the time he was a month old. They needed it for insurance to pay the hospital bill.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Welcome to the Obamanation. They can't do math in their heads anymore or recognize English but they can be good little Obama youth and go to riots, endorse candidates, and probably recite the communist manifesto soon.

yeah, that's it....registering to vote is all Obamas fault, causes riots, and forces youth to recite the communist manifesto...what keen intellectual insight you have....as do the others that starred your post

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Did you actually read the OP? The title clearly says "to sign up someone to vote"----not to practice filling out a voter registration card.
As I said earlier, I don't know the NY laws but in KY if you conduct a voter registration drive, have people fill out voter registration cards, you are indeed obligated by law to turn those cards in to the county of registry. Handing out voter registration cards in an organized way---is conducting a registration drive---whether the teacher knows this or not. Thus my suggestion that the parent chat with the teacher about this assignment.
You might want to check the laws before you go all "spare me" and spare yourself some trouble. Of course, you can go fill out nonsense on the cards and destroy them but when you go asking others to fill out a registration card, you become an agent of the state and are obligated to follow the laws concerning voter registration in that state.
Don't believe me? Just give your county clerk a call and ask about the laws for signing up voters.
Nobody has said that the school doesn't have the child's SS#. Had you actually read before jumping in, you would know that this is some random "somebody" needed to fill out this card.
Take your disdain elsewhere until you find the ability to actually read and comprehend the OP. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

originally posted by: prisoner60863
Is this even legal? I find it weird considering it's the last few days, and it has nothing to do with her education. Political agenda?

How do I approach this?

Sign up the dog.

originally posted by: amazing
Why wouldn't you want more people voting?

Have you ever spoken with the average voter?

Try getting into an indepth subject with someone such as the geopolitical layout of Russia and how the US needs to structure foreign policy in this regard. See if the voter can even grasp 1/10 of the situation.

Though this assumes you understand the finer points of such a thing to establish a baseline in the first place.

Oh, horsepockey.
20 years ago it would have been fine. Now people who are "alarmed" at this repeat the infotainment memes. It is a civics lesson. It's probably not even to be turned in, as an actual registration, but meant as a discussion tool.
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Loose the paper and aplogize to the instructor in person.

a reply to: kkrattiger

do you remember ever being asked by a teacher to do this? I graduated in the late 70's and I don't remember ever being asked to do anything like this and we did have civics lessons all through elementary school back then.
Is it wise to teach a kid to ask or give something like SS#s for trivial things like homework assignments?
And, well, we've never heard of anything about crappy teachers out there who have done some pretty horrendous things from sexual abuse to embezzlement. How can you be so sure that the teacher isn't planning on selling the information the kids gather, or that the information won't be lost on the way to school and picked up by someone willing to use it for their personal gain?
I don't see this as a great homework assignment as much as I do an opportunity to teach your son or daughter about the necessity of protecting such information (which it has turned out that far too many people seem to think they deserve to have but well the laws say they aren't required to know.)

a reply to: prisoner60863

The major flaw in this assignment is that voting is supposed to be a choice, so there is a fundamental flaw in the homework assignment by making it a mandate. Obama has put forward the idea of requiring votes, so that is his opinion on the freedom of speech... that you don't have it.

I think others have suggested enough options for you so I'm just throwing in another random opinion... PM me with any replies.

a reply to: dawnstar

IT's TOO EASY TO RUIN ONES WHOLE POST on mobile!! I just typed out a reply then BLAM, disappeared when a fat thumb got wayward on the screen!

All I was saying is YES I remember going over voter registration. And balancing fake checkbooks. In junior high. I live in NM. This was in the mid 90s.

I also remember elementary students selling piles of crap made in China for prizes of cheap erasers and 25¢ toys. There would be an assembly where some adult salesman would try to rile the elementary students up to be excited about going home and canvassing the neighborhood to sell the junk from the catalog. Wrapping paper, bathroom soap in the shape of seashells, tchotchkes.

I was not allowed to participate in "school fundraising". My mom thought it was a terrible scam on the schools and that the companies were basically using unpaid laborers to sell the junk.

So, if one has a problem with a school activity: keep one's kid out of it.

I do not see a problem with a civics lesson in voter registration, personally.

You sound like an alarmist.
Yes, we have heard about teachers who do terrible things.... Because it's newsworthy in that hardly any teachers do terrible things.
If you think a teacher may be out for identity theft information by sending students home with voter registration forms, then that's your position and I'm not here to change your mind. I am here to call it out for sounding crazy, so someone else perhaps won't go all Gung Ho when they read it like Hell Yeah, teachers are Commies!

If one is dumb enough to fill out social security number on a form meant to teach a kid about voter registration, then it's probably not the 1st time ones information has been in danger of being used for identity theft.
a reply to: dawnstar