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originally posted by: newWorldSamurai
a reply to: Blackmarketeer
I wonder if Tesla knew about these tubes and was part of the infrastructure for his electrical distribution system.
Just postulating....
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Good on her! Turning an array into 3-D is very fitting for a young mind.
Plasma tubes eh? Wonder what they be good for?
Power perhaps if it can be harnessed, here's generated plasma reacting to a magnet..it spins,
P.S. hurray the preview is back!
Very interesting video.....oddly, it reminds me of all the "spaceship" videos of discs in space filmed by crews that get pushed off as ice crystals. I wonder if those "discs" are some for of plasma interacting with these plasma arcs that she found?
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: swanne
Well, when one considers that our atmosphere can sometimes appear to behave like a series of interconnected cells, rather than a single spherical envelope, and then looks at these plasma tubes, one has to wonder what relationship these two things have.
Have a look at this page, and tell me what springs to mind.
www.ux1.eiu.edu...
originally posted by: St Udio
have anyone considered that these 'plasma tubes' were known to the ancients ?
picture in your mind, the Mythical Gaia (Earth Goddess) with that 'roaring '20's curls' which drooped down to her shoulders
or else a Mythical Medusa (the evil counterpart) that had a head full of 'snakes' which turned men into stone if looked at
the old adage is '''nothing new under the Sun'''
originally posted by: Donttrustnasa
I wonder if this discovery will be one more step towards Electric Universe.But i think mainstream science will remain in their Einstein bubble and invent something to be in favor of Big Bang bul# theory,like they did with dark matter dark energy.
originally posted by: anti72
errrr, why dont they photograph it?? when it can be observed through the glasses then it can be photographed, too.....
originally posted by: wmd_2008
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Blackmarketeer
I always enjoy these sorts of stories - not just for the "wow" factor, but also for when some from the scientific community (old school establishment) get pwned by other scientists due to new discoveries which, in my opinion, suggest science too is a fluid & ever-evolving series of "impossible - until it is not" scenarios.
Oh, and Aussie Aussie Aussie............
Maybe you should read the link then
For over 60 years, scientists believed these structures existed, but by imaging them for the first time, we’ve provided visual evidence that they are really there,
Not quite what you claim.
It’s a finding that was initially met with a considerable degree of scepticism within the field of astrophysics, but a University of Sydney undergraduate student Cleo Loi, 23, has proven that the phenomenon exists.
A lot of the people were pretty convinced it was some problem with the imaging, that it was nothing to get excited about.
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Good on her! Turning an array into 3-D is very fitting for a young mind.
Plasma tubes eh? Wonder what they be good for?
Power perhaps if it can be harnessed, here's generated plasma reacting to a magnet..it spins,
P.S. hurray the preview is back!
Very interesting video.....oddly, it reminds me of all the "spaceship" videos of discs in space filmed by crews that get pushed off as ice crystals. I wonder if those "discs" are some for of plasma interacting with these plasma arcs that she found?
Mmm, I'm just thinking that my last part of the sentence appears to mean that in the video the magnet spins, while I meant it's the plasma, or rather ions or electrons that are forced to spin, (the Lorenzo effect..I think) the magnet is the suspended rod, but I see you got that anyway. The audio pick-up sound of the effect is interesting too as well as the camera sound in general.
But this girl has done what was already suspected, but in a novel way for us plebs at least. But in some ways it has caused me con'fusion'. The LHC on the face of it, is a dirty great Tokamak trying to prove the existence of theoretical particles. So while the LHC pisses about with particles, pretty much of the rest of the world is signed up to a thirty year cycle of an experimental highly efficient, clean energy ITER plant in France, also massive and also very complex, ten years to build, (started in 2007) and a twenty year experimental cycle, from a similar stall. So, WTF is going on?
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Good on her! Turning an array into 3-D is very fitting for a young mind.
Plasma tubes eh? Wonder what they be good for?
Power perhaps if it can be harnessed, here's generated plasma reacting to a magnet..it spins,
They are already building a massive fusion power ITER test plant, (International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor) in France, and it's a multi country effort as you can see in the name. Things are getting interesting in the long term. the plant should be ready by 2017.
www.iter.org...
“For over 60 years, scientists believed these structures existed, but by imaging them for the first time, we’ve provided visual evidence that they are really there,” said Ms Loi, of the Australia Research Council Centre of Excellence for All-sky Astrophysics (CAASTRO).
Transient flux tubes in the terrestrial magnetosphere
Authors
D. H. Pontius Jr.,
R. A. Wolf
First published: January 1990 Full publication history
DOI: 10.1029/GL017i001p00049View/save citation
Cited by: 133 articlesRefresh citation countCiting literature
Abstract
We postulate that small, isolated density depletions are introduced into the magnetotail by an uneven plasma loading process in the far tail. Such bubbles would be displaced earthward by an interchange process, and a significant depletion would move faster than either the gradient-curvature drift speed or the average convection speed. The dissolution of a bubble into the background results in a local reduction in plasma density, thereby violating ideal MHD and the subsequent conservation of plasma content. If a sufficient amount of magnetic flux in the far tail is contained in bubbles, then the net effect may be a reduction of plasma pressure in the near tail sufficient to resolve the pressure balance inconsistency.
Detection of localized, plasma-depleted flux tubes or bubbles in the midtail plasma sheet
Authors
V. A. Sergeev,
V. Angelopoulos,
J. T. Gosling,
C. A. Cattell,
C. T. Russell
First published: 1 May 1996Full publication history
DOI: 10.1029/96JA00460View/save citation
Cited by: 155 articlesRefresh citation countCiting literature
Abstract
Recent studies have shown that most Earthward transport hi the midtail, high-beta plasma sheet takes place in the form of short-lived, high-speed plasma flow bursts. Bursty bulk flows are observed both when the plasma sheet is thin, such as during substorm expansion, and when it is thick, such as during substorm recovery. We present multi-instrument observations from the ISEE1 and ISEE 2 spacecraft to argue that when the plasma sheet becomes thick and close to its equilibrium state, the plasma and magnetic field signatures of high-speed flow events are consistent with the theoretically predicted signatures of plasma-depleted flux tubes or “bubbles” [Pontius and Wolf, 1990; Chen and Wolf, 1993]. These signatures consist of a decrease in the plasma pressure and an increase in the Bz-component of the magnetic field accompanying the high speed flow. We show that the Earthward moving bubbles are separated from the plasma ahead of them by a sharp tangential discontinuity. The layer ahead of the bubbles exhibits flow and magnetic field shear consistent with flow around an Earthward moving obstacle. The bubble is in approximate total pressure balance with the surrounding medium. We show that there is a systematic difference in the orientation of the discontinuity measured at ISEE 1 and 2, implying a small (about 1–3 RE) cross-tail size of the bubbles.
originally posted by: newWorldSamurai
a reply to: Blackmarketeer
I wonder if Tesla knew about these tubes and was part of the infrastructure for his electrical distribution system.
Just postulating....
The huge energies in the ionosphere get shifted around in plasma “tubes”, observed for the first time by a Sydney University physics graduate student.
The work by graduate student Cleo Loi shows that the plasmasphere (the soup of electrons stripped away from atoms in the ionosphere) is strongly aligned with Earth's magnetic field.
The Murchison Widefield Array, one of the precursor projects to the international Square Kilometre Array (SKA), was used to capture “binocular” images to show the plasma tubes forming in the upper atmosphere.
The work, supported by the Centre for All-Sky Astrophysics (CAASTRO), sought to confirm by observation 60-year-old theories about the structures.
The “ducts”, cylindrical structures in the plasmasphere aligned with the Earth's magnetic field, are worth observing since plasmasphere activity interferes with satellite communications and navigation systems.
Boffins are also keen to characterise the structures, so they can allow for their activity in astronomical measurements.
To measure the plasma ducts, Loi and the CAASTRO research team took 46 snapshots with the MWA, each covering about 30° of the sky.
Those snapshots let the researchers measure how much a bunch of known radio sources seemed to be “offset” from their proper position – in other words, how much effect the plasma activity interfered with them.
Splitting the MWA's 128 antennas east-west let them measure the altitudes of the ducts – around 600 km high – and other measurements from the array showed a regularity that suggested the ducts' cylindrical shape.
As the paper, published in Geophysical Research Letters and available as an Arxiv pre-print, notes: “The structures are strikingly organised, appearing as regularly-spaced, alternating tubes of overdensities and underdensities strongly aligned with the Earth’s magnetic field”.
The group used the AGEAN source-finding software to locate the radio sources they measured, and compared those to the NRAO VLA Sky Survey catalogue to get the expected location of the sources (and therefore see how much they were disturbed by the plasma ducts).
originally posted by: theMediator
originally posted by: newWorldSamurai
a reply to: Blackmarketeer
I wonder if Tesla knew about these tubes and was part of the infrastructure for his electrical distribution system.
Just postulating....
I was thinking of the same thing...
Is this what some ancient cultures and meta-physicists call "Aether"?
December 23, 2009: The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist. In the Dec. 24th issue of Nature, a team of scientists reveal how NASA's Voyager spacecraft have solved the mystery.
originally posted by: Macenroe82
Maybe these plasma tubes could be used as worm holes.
Could be E.T's hiway