Tired of grand theories, just do what you want

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
How so? What do you think could be wrong; if I am a particle of its being I know it to be my creator; why would it deliberately lie to me?

Because you are not a particle of its being.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
How so? What do you think could be wrong; if I am a particle of its being I know it to be my creator; why would it deliberately lie to me?

Because you are not a particle of its being.

Where is your disconnect? If I am not a particle of its being I am the whole ball of wax (delusional).

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Where is your disconnect? If I am not a particle of its being I am the whole ball of wax (delusional).

Or maybe you are neither and you just haven't found the truth.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Where is your disconnect? If I am not a particle of its being I am the whole ball of wax (delusional).

Or maybe you are neither and you just haven't found the truth.

Enlightenment has its perks; Gnosticism has even more advantages over/regarding ignorance.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Enlightenment has its perks; Gnosticism has even more advantages over/regarding ignorance.

Doesn't mean you have either.

originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing

vhb:Enlightenment has its perks; Gnosticism has even more advantages over/regarding ignorance.

daskakik: Doesn't mean you have either.

You do not know my mind or being, state of circumstance or as an evolved being what that means: (an aside; what I like about you is your questioning nature). You are observing me from your perspective and within that FOCUS I could be you/or anything else you imagine WE can BE.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
You do not know my mind or being, state of circumstance or as an evolved being what that means: (an aside; what I like about you is your questioning nature).

You are right, all I know is what you post.

You are observing me from your perspective and within that FOCUS I could be you/or anything else you imagine WE can BE.

I'm not observing you. I am thinking about your words. Comparing them to my experience and with the words of Monroe and applying some logic.

Now, I like Monroe's books and believe that he was on the right track but, something about that third book makes think that there might be something to the conspiracy theory that someone on high had some say in the content. Either trying to keep something hidden or maybe pushing something unto the masses.

I mentioned in another thread that he hardly mentions love in the first 2 books and all of a sudden he is talking of love and light all over the place. Nothing wrong with that. It might very well be what this is all about but the man experienced 27 years of OOBEs and in all those years love and light were never key players in his experiences.

20 years later everyone is talking about love and light and how that is the goal but, if we go by Ultimate Journey, even Monroe "knowing all this" doesn't bring him up to escape velocity. There is still a second coming approx 1k years from now.

The one thing that keeps me giving it the benefit of the doubt is that they say quite a few times that we ar not all one. Monroe is supposed to set the course for the trip that his group "together with many other I-There clusters who will go with us", will take. Not all. Which is odd because that is something that many harp on about, all being one.

Your "inner will" is MADE BY OTHERS. Thus, your whole post is an exercise in ignorance, and perhaps a tad bit of frustration. Have you been feeling restless lately?

originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: vethumanbeing

vhb:You are observing me from your perspective and within that FOCUS I could be you/or anything else you imagine WE can BE.

dask:I'm not observing you. I am thinking about your words. Comparing them to my experience and with the words of Monroe and applying some logic.
Now, I like Monroe's books and believe that he was on the right track but, something about that third book makes think that there might be something to the conspiracy theory that someone on high had some say in the content. Either trying to keep something hidden or maybe pushing something unto the masses.

While on an OOBE (second book) with BB he met his dead wife NA in the future 3000AD. That may have changed him; or frightened him. With the writing of "Ultimate Journey" he seems pensive YES. SO the man had a revelation.

dask: I mentioned in another thread that he hardly mentions love in the first 2 books and all of a sudden he is talking of love and light all over the place. Nothing wrong with that. It might very well be what this is all about but

20 years later everyone is talking about love and light and how that is the goal but, if we go by Ultimate Journey, even Monroe "knowing all this" doesn't bring him up to escape velocity. There is still a second coming approx 1k years from now.

Not true (the love aspect). He goes into great detail about obtaining "loosh" the love factor and how it is mined and bottled. You recall it is the brightest of white frequency and comes only from a mother protecting its child (human or animal). The second most powerful is the emotion "flight or fight syndrome" (this isn't love but an emotion that can be synthesized as well).

dask: The one thing that keeps me giving it the benefit of the doubt is that they say quite a few times that we ar not all one. Monroe is supposed to set the course for the trip that his group "together with many other I-There clusters who will go with us", will take. Not all. Which is odd because that is something that many harp on about, all being one.

The clusters are just those that have a similar background (it keeps us sane upon immediate death), Lawyers with other lawyers, Pawn Brokers go to the Pawn Broker planet etc. It all changes after a while (re-conditioning regarding the death experience from being physical to being astral).

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
While on an OOBE (second book) with BB he met his dead wife NA in the future 3000AD. That may have changed him; or frightened him. With the writing of "Ultimate Journey" he seems pensive YES. SO the man had a revelation.

The whole 3000AD thing really doesn't seem to be such a big deal. He makes it clear that the explanation from the INSPECS is what makes him see things differently.

In the end, if it was orchastrated, it doesn't matter what it looks like. That would be orchastrated as well.

Not true (the love aspect). He goes into great detail about obtaining "loosh" the love factor and how it is mined and bottled. You recall it is the brightest of white frequency and comes only from a mother protecting its child (human or animal). The second most powerful is the emotion "flight or fight syndrome" (this isn't love but an emotion that can be synthesized as well).

Actually it is all loosh. The fact that you try to seperate it from the "love/loosh" is what this thread was about.

The clusters are just those that have a similar background (it keeps us sane upon immediate death), Lawyers with other lawyers, Pawn Brokers go to the Pawn Broker planet etc. It all changes after a while (re-conditioning regarding the death experience from being physical to being astral).

But the trip still doesn't include everyone.

Tired of grand theories - face the fact that this is it already.
Who is there that can change what is happening?
There is only what is happening - there is no who!!

It is impossible to do what you want because there is no you that can do. Everything is just happening.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
It is impossible to do what you want because there is no you that can do. Everything is just happening.

My now isn't your now. I have changed my now before. Only happened a couple of times but I got it done.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
It is impossible to do what you want because there is no you that can do. Everything is just happening.

My now isn't your now. I have changed my now before. Only happened a couple of times but I got it done.

There is no you and there is no now.
There is only what is actually happening.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
There is no you and there is no now.
There is only what is actually happening.

So says you, but there is no you.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
There is no you and there is no now.
There is only what is actually happening.

So says you, but there is no you.

No one says so - words are happening.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
No one says so

Then who cares?

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
No one says so

Then who cares?

No one.
But caring does appear to happen!

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
No one.
But caring does appear to happen!

You seem to care, that's odd, for someone who isn't.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
No one.
But caring does appear to happen!

You seem to care, that's odd, for someone who isn't.

Caring happens - it is the 'who' that cares that is the illusion.
Writing happens, reading happens - it is the I that believes it does, that is not!!

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Caring happens - it is the 'who' that cares that is the illusion.
Writing happens, reading happens - the I that believes it does that is not!!

So, all this happens but no one cares, reads or writes?

Why does nothing even bother?