Why Monotheists Must Fight

The God of Tom, Betty, and Susan

I view myself as a fairly friendly sort of guy, in that I usually don't have much trouble making friends. Friendships can get pretty intimate, so intimate that there is a freedom to start talking about gods.

So Tom begins to tell me about his God. He's the vastness of the whole universe, He didn't create it, because He is it. Of course there is only one God. Why yes, I can understand that God.

For some reason Betty decides that I should know about her God too. "My God created the world in six days, and rested on the seventh day, that's why I rest on the Sabbath, the Ten Commandment says that's the sign and seal of the Creator. And He's the only God. Betty's God isn't all that difficult to visualize.

I'm eating lunch with Susan and she tells me about her God. "My God is the Father of Jesus. He revealed a loving God, not like that horrible Old Testament guy who demanded death to all first born, and all Midianites, Hivites, Amalekites, idolaters, witches, and so many others that I can't even name them all. The One real God is the Father and that Old Testament guy is the devil. Okay, I can understand what Susan's God is all about.

So now, since I'm a nice guy, then I must also be nice to the God of Tom, the God of Betty, and the God of Susan. But they are not three gods, because there is only one God.

One day the God of Tom, Betty, and Susan, gets to arguing with each other in my head, and I end up having a psychotic break.

Tom is worried about me, so he comes to offer some help. Since I'm psychotic at this point, it takes a long time for me to explain what happened, and a long time for him to offer the solution. There is only One God and the others are metaphors, that help people understand the One. Thanks Tom, that helps. One God, two metaphors.

Good thing my psychosis is under control. Betty doesn't have as hard of a time explaining to me that there is One True God, and the others are delusions from the devil.

Before I have a chance to think about that much Susan helps me see the light. There's One God, and there's Satan, and there's delusion.

So I've got it: Three One and Only Gods, two metaphors, three delusions, and Satan. That equals 9, but they are One.

I'm sorry Tom but you have to leave me alone.

Goodbye Betty. I've got some stuff to work out.

Susan, it's been nice, but I really need some alone time.

Good, I'm alone now with Three One and Only God, two metaphors, three delusions, and Satan.

Will the real One God now please cast out the false gods.

So my head explodes, and out comes Athena, fully formed.

"Look, I've got some friends who can help you out. And here's the good part. Not a damn one of them claims to be the one and only god."

Praise Athena! You are indeed wise!

a reply to: pthena

HA! Great metaphorical story there. I laughed.

Though I like the Norse gods over the Greek ones. No nonsense group of dudes there. Plus their end times prophecy is just Metal to the extreme and makes the Book of Revelation look like a walk through the park.

Since the beginning of time, this is the story, but much more diverse today. The bible is full of contradictions, reversals, and things that just do not make any sense. The Koran is good one part, and evil as possible the next. the Sumerian tablets have a lot of holes, the urantia book has many contradictions as well. I am not religious, but believe there is a entity that had manipulations all thru history and is not perfect in every way. In the bible Moses, David and others convinced the all knowing, all being, God to completely reverse his mind to actions he was about to take, happened many, many times...Baal, a god that really got into the Gods mind, cost a lot of otherwise noble people their, and their families life. How does a person whom has witnessed unbelievable miracles later on just drop everything and worship Baal? There is so, so much we do not know, lost documents, manipulated documents, There is no wonder that there are so many different religions, cults, and extremist and the people of power have constructed a past and future of this design...

the rosicrucians make the case that we are all gods, in various stages of learning from the gods that came before us, this to me, makes the most sense as it does indeed cover pretty much every possible WTF moment. the problem is, some don't think of themselves as gods, and some who do think of themselves as gods, have left out learning about necessary things like compassion and forgiveness. that's where most of the problems seem to stem from.

a reply to: undo

You should be careful of those who claim to represent Rosicrucianism such as the nincompoops of AMORC, indeed any group claiming to understand anything as none of them did, this is a fairly good documentary on the matter.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Though I like the Norse gods over the Greek ones

With all that going on, I fell back to what I read as a child, Greek Mythology.

To each his own.

a reply to: pthena

Yea. I read a lot of that as well. Those guys were some party animals (especially Zeus, guy was a nymphomaniac, and why would you disguise yourself as a swan to have sex with a woman and not just some random man?).

a reply to: undo

the rosicrucians make the case that we are all gods,

Read The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman.

We each have a demon (of divine origin). If you truly know a person, you can also know their demon.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
Zeus? If Athena (wisdom) left him, what kind of state would he be in afterwards?

a reply to: pthena

Well if "pretending to be a swan to sleep with chicks" was one of the states he was in WITH her around, I'm not sure I'd want to know what he'd be like without her...

a reply to: teslahowitzer

In the bible Moses, David and others convinced the all knowing, all being, God to completely reverse his mind to actions he was about to take

Just off the top of my head:

David captures a city named "founded upon the twin god of evening" aka Jerusalem.

David says "Cool, I'll build a temple for my god in the city that was founded upon the twin god of evening".

The god says, "I don't need no stinkin temple."

Later the god changes his mind. "Tell you what, since I already said you can't build it, let's just say your son will, no one will notice the change of mind"

So the son builds a temple for the god based upon all the imagery and symbolism of the temples of the other gods.

Some where along the way, the god becomes convinced that he's the one and only.

Why did no one ever think to change the pagan name of the city?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

With so many fine goddesses, why would I even want to hang around Zeus or even care what he was doing?

a reply to: pthena

Hmm good point. That is unless you have eyes on Hera.

a reply to: pthena
Original name was Urushalem, named in honor of Salem (Babylonian god of peace).

There is only one God (at least that is my opinion). And a lot of entities pretending to be the "one".

a reply to: Krazysh0t
Bestialism? Just wicked.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

That is unless you have eyes on Hera

Naw, I was watching Artemis bathing in a lake one night.

A twig snapped under my foot. She looked up. I ran.

I heard the arrow swoosh, caught in my left tricep. Look see this scar?

Next thing I knew, I was a wolf. I serenaded her for a year. It was going to be three years, but I'm not the best singer.

She could have killed me if she'd wanted, because of her flawless aim.

One time I was standing on a dock next to a sailor, watching her boat come in.

She was 300 yards out when the sailor started telling a yarn about him and her.

From 300 yards out, the arrow got him right in the eye.

a reply to: Abednego

peace

The concept of peace is related to evening, the time when taps plays.

a reply to: pthena

> Why did no one ever think to change the pagan name of the city?

It was Salem when Melchizedek, (Malki Tzedek) was king
and High Priest of El. (14th chapter of the Book of Genesis).
Mel is introduced as the king of Salem, and priest of El Elyon
("God most high" or "God over all gods").

Later it was renamed "Heru-Salem" (Har-wer, Horus the Elder)
who was one of the oldest gods of Ancient Egypt. He was a
sky god, whose face was visualized as the face of the sun.

Yes, it is indeed odd how the Hebrew God didn't mind that
Abraham sacrificed to, and was blessed by, this High Priest
of the Canaanite religion.

Yes, it is indeed odd how the Hebrew God didn't mind
David building his (or God's) temple on this site with
all the imagery and symbolism of the temples of the
other gods.

Odd indeed.

a reply to: pthena

I've always found beauty in intelligence. Even as a child Athena resonated with me. She always seemed to be a hero of the people too (helping Perseus and Odysseus in their respective adventures for example). As far as Greek gods go, she'd be my favorite. Followed by Dionysus (sounds like a good guy to have as a buddy, all the free booze you can handle!)

a reply to: pthena I do not remember the temple having symbols of other gods, been a while since reading. He eliminated complete family lineages for just making statues of other gods, What would make the Israelites continue to worship other gods after all the miracles he performed? time after time, generation after generation, what did these other gods do to get their attention? must have been something, but no reference at all as to what these gods did, none...