Michelle Obama Tells Black Grads That White People Make Life Tough

a reply to: cenpuppie

but what i do find hilarious is when people think that hundreds of years of prejudice, bigotry and out right murder to simply disappear in less than a lifetime.

So are you going to hold a grudge over the African chiefs that sold their prisoner of wars to the Europeans for ever, or will you eventually forgive them and move on?

Unfortunately, the human race has blood on their hands not only the white man.

a reply to: Rocker2013

lol and do tell what clue you have. I am white and I have more of a clue than most. I went to a middle school where I was one of four white people. Everyone called me white boy(including the teachers) tried to pull down my pants daily, threw me in the trashcans, tripped me, spit on me, threw their food and drinks at me, threw rocks at me, called me racist for being white, screemed out their windows at me on my way back from school, I got my bike stolen from me 4 times, got 3 skateboards stolen, got mugged twice, got choked and beat up by ten blacks, and by a group of five on another occasion. my parents got their car stolen at gunpoint by a group who robbed our local 7/11, our house was robbed, and too many other incidents to mention. %98 percent of blacks I have met are insecure, low self esteem, tribal, barbaric, stupid, loud, ignorant, entitled, self-loathing, white hating racists. But then again most people of any race suck. There are good people in any race, I have dated a black girl(got harrased for it), and made 1 good(black) friend who did not call me white boy and treated me with respect and dignity as I did him. Now you may have lived the pampered life as a white, but racism goes both ways. Can you really tell me that I have not experienced "genuine bigotry" ?

a reply to: criticalhit

Black America is definitely in a very weird place right now. The next few years are going to decide where black people fit into the future of America. Like you said, there some black people who are getting "absorbed", but unfortunately they are the minority of blacks, and the least vocal when it comes to current racially charged social issues.

The most outspoken blacks are often times the most uneducated, and it doesn't help when you throw in the race baiters like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. They are the ones who are doing the most damage to their current and future well being. The worst part in all of this is that Al Sharpton is Obama's go to guy when it comes to things like Ferguson/Baltimore. Obama could not choose a worse spokesman for the black community than him.

The most powerful quote to me regarding Black America right now comes from Jesse Jackson.

"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery - then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved."

When one of your communities biggest spokesman fears their own community more than the community they are supposedly needing to fight against, there are serious underlying issues that need to be addressed. Until then...nothing will change...or things will only continue to get worse in the black community.

Heck, the way fans of sports teams can treat each other can verge on bigotry. It's a similar tribal mentality where you can wind up reducing the fans of the other team to simply "Other" and go to town on them.

My husband had rocks thrown at him and was called racial slurs because he was wearing a Tennessee Oilers (back after the team first moved) t-shirt in the wrong place at the wrong time. Of course, no one bothered to wonder whether or not he was actually an OIlers fan or was simply wearing a convenient tee his grandma had sent him for Christmas.

originally posted by: eisegesis
Absolutely disgusting. She can use her power to unite and serve as an example, but chooses to play the role and focus on what separates us.

I'm at a loss for words.

I am not at a loss, the word you are looking for is bigget.

a reply to: wanderingconfusion

Why does she continue to do this?

...because the issues she speaks about still exist.

originally posted by: criticalhit
a reply to: WarminIndy


And yeah, Mexicans are Caucasians, (you want here racist white people saying this lol) But by Genetic they are basically Southern European, there are a lot of Native genes in the mix, but you get a fair number of Blonde Mexicans. The ratio runs as I said between 33% and 70% Southern European Genes with fractions falling on either side further.

A lot of Caucasians see Blonde, Brown red head as "Caucasian" but our immigrant waves of the last century include Jews, Greeks, Italians in fairly large numbers... a generation or two later they are called "Brunettes"

Your dealing with the semantics here of "Racism" vs "Holy crap your Racist as hell" But even the Nazis who all fled to South America didn't have a problem with "Spanish" in their consideration of European... Only crazy American Republicans are "that Racist" lol

Truth be told i'm not far from the border, when "not in the sun picking fruit all day" fresh off the boat so to speak a generation or two in I can't tell really a Mexican "descended person" from any other southern European really...

What would you call "Selena Gomez" "Charlie Sheen" "J lo" "Ricardo Montelban"

These aren't "Europeans" ?

They are a bit Olive and Brunette?

If you classify "white" as "British- Northern Europe" no... but to me, Latino? You mean Catholic People of Spanish decent mainly who celebrate Christmas, speak a romance language and settled the new world alongside the Dutch... about as white as you get before waxing psuedo albino... I can't "see" the Catholic - Christian dilemma as requiring since the time of "Gangs of NY" a disparity lol

The Pope... he's not "Caucasian" he's a different "Race"

I'm not even getting all Liberal and going for the "we are all human" thing... It's to me just xenophobic as hell to classify Hispanics separately, particularly with a 25% per generation rate of intermarriage... Moms 66% Spanish Dads from Germany...to some that's "not white" but to me the people that think that looking at the Blonde haired browned eye girl are totally in the David Duke camp of Racism...

Caucasian if in America to some = Caucasian English speaking with light eyes and almost no skin pigment as the only criteria, well... I don't know what to say lol, that's "a bit much" in my book

America is Racist as hell lol, Even Obama never mentions he's actually a dark skinned Caucasian, His Mom was White the person who gave birth to him, in a lot of cultures, saying he is Black would be considered BS

Notice I did not say "Mexicans are Caucasian?" I said Hispanics and since it is so hard to define exactly what Hispanic is as Latinos are from Mexico, Central and South America and the Caribbean.

Many Hispanics in Central and South America are Native Indigenous. I think they do not perceive themselves as Caucasian. I think you have limited Hispanic to mean only people from Mexico.

The Pope, Argentinean. But I'm not Catholic.

Selena Gomez, she has an Hispanic name, Charlie Sheen, Puerto Rican/Irish, Ricardo Montelban, Latino. How about Emilio Estevez? He's pretty blonde and blue eyed, he's the brother of Charlie Sheen.

But how about Dorothy Dandridge, Merle Oberon, Halle Berry? Alicia Keys? What should they be considered? We take our cues from you guys, if we call them what they don't self-identify as, we are reprimanded for it. If we call them what you call them, we are reprimanded for it.

I just saw today an article about celebrities you didn't know are Asian. The article didn't say part Asian, it said Asian.

Naomi Campbell, do you claim her as black? Her grandmother is Chinese.

We just simply don't know how to call anyone anything, because the goal posts keep getting moved. But if we say someone is black who is not black, but the black community perceives as black, we are reprimanded for it.

What is fair about that?

You folks need to chill out. This is hardly black power anti-white divisive rhetoric.

Also, this country has and still does have a history of virulent racism.

For her to point that out is no crime.


You better check yourselves out

a reply to: cyborg41

Sounds like you had a tough childhood. Given everything that you have been through, do you view all people the same? Or do you have more of a fear/hatred/dislike towards black people? Mainly in a group setting(i.e., a group of black people walking towards you down the street vs a group of white/asian/etc..)

Like you said there are good people in any race, but I am curious if you feel one is more violent than the other. Given a lot of new studies that have come out recently, it appears that in general everyone fears black people more. Even blacks fear blacks on the same level that whites do.

I have had a lot of first hand experiences with racism from blacks as well being white, and was almost killed when I was robbed and thrown out of a moving car by 3 black guys. The strangest part was that my best friend was black all growing up and I never felt any differently towards blacks, even after almost being killed by them. Some of my best friends are still black, but I find myself along with them, growing less tolerant of the racism and overall attitude of the black community in general.

Who knows...maybe the media is rubbing off on me, but I rarely watch MSM...so it is a strange thing. I also have noticed my super PC white friends/relatives saying things that even just a few years ago would have been blasphemy in their eyes.

a reply to: Onslaught2996

The First Lady should not use divisive language in any speech, for any reason. She feels how she perceives being treated as a black Michelle Obama. You think she receives the same perceived treatment as a black First Lady? She should keep her divisive words to herself while she resides in the house provided by "we the people". Once she's out of our house, she can have at it.

I am amazed Obama hasn't yet used his mighty pen to rename the "White" house to something acceptably "blackish". Oh yeah, that's already a TV show.

a reply to: Willtell

What do you mean "you folks"?

Maybe you should check yourself out.

originally posted by: Involutionist
a reply to: wanderingconfusion

Why does she continue to do this?

...because the issues she speaks about still exist.

Museveni would agree, Was the African chiefs who Michelle was blaming?

Yoweri Museveni, the president of Uganda, told an audience including Bill Clinton: "African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today."

www.theguardian.com...

This thread should be closed on the fact that the OP posted a blatantly misleading title that did not reflect the words said by Mrs Obama, and it was clearly done to incite and race bait.

I am no fan of her husband, but race baiters like the OP are a cancer within our society.

a reply to: supremecommander

I disagree entirely with your assessment of the speech. While I don't feel Mrs. Obama is a racist, her comments do reflect the title.

originally posted by: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3
a reply to: supremecommander

I disagree entirely with your assessment of the speech. While I don't feel Mrs. Obama is a racist, her comments do reflect the title.

Her comments do not, but those who carry an agenda will hear what they want to hear, facts be damned.

a reply to: Willtell

I feel you. Half the comments in this thread have proven the First Lady correct. LOL!

Psst...those are the people you get rich off of, so don't sweat it. Like sheep being herded. Let them be...cash in on them in other avenues in life.

a reply to: Involutionist

Psst...those are the people you get rich off of, so don't sweat it. Like sheep being herded. Let them be...cash in on them in other avenues in life.

Sounds like the secret is out because Jesse Jackson , Al Sharpton and the MSM has figured it out to perfection.

Easy to make money of the mentally challenged , children and the elderly too, but that doesn't make it right or something to be proud about either.

Thats the real problem and bigger problem than racism: Money, and how willing people are to capitalize on others misfortunes to make money or even willing to keep them down for a buck.

a reply to: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3

Honestly, before I moved to California, I lived in Oklahoma as the white majority, and saw the racism towards non-whites as well, but it never went to the extremes I would see daily in Southern Caliifornia. I have a little disdain towards gangster blacks and hipanics, but it is more as a group than towards any individual. I find that some stereotypes are rightfully earned, but never absolute. I have only been attacked, robbed etc... by blacks and hispanics, but I would probably fear equally a meth-head white to any lowlife black or hispanic. And If I was black or hispanic I may fear a skinhead more than someone of my race. But usually I do not judge by race, but rather by instinct. I have had gangsters walk up to me to hangout, and knew they were non-threatening, but when something goes wrong there is always the gut feeling that the person/people/situation is a threat. Really though I think it is more of a culture problem than race. I believe many black, and hispanic communities are founded on bad principles, and glamorize a detrimental lifestyle. It seems by design to convince blacks and hispanics that they cannot be successful unless they are stealing, killing, selling, or rapping. Racism, sexism, politicism, it is all meant to divide us into small pieces and make us easier to manage IMO.

originally posted by: introvert

It's because there still are many people in this nation that judge people based on the color of their skin, but don't have the juevos to be honest about it. I have more respect for an honest racist than I do to those that claim their hatred lies in political or ideological roots.

That being said, this article was twisted in a way to appeal to those closet racists that get outraged at false stories such as these. Why do people fall for it?

LOL

Subtlety will get you everywhere. Everyone 'in power' instinctively knows this.

a reply to: interupt42

Easy to make money of the mentally challenged , children and the elderly too, but that doesn't make it right or something to be proud about either.

I make $ off of daily commuters. In fact, the higher they are educated the better. Why? Because they're usually the ones with the higher disposable incomes.

Basically, I make money off anybody who fits into this category below:



^^^ They come in all colours, shapes and different backgrounds.

ETA: You edited your comment to add this piece after I commented above:

Thats the real problem and bigger problem than racism: Money, and how willing people are to capitalize on others misfortunes to make money or even willing to keep them down for a buck.

I follow my passions with a vivid imagination and carve out my own path in life. I don't hustle or cheat anybody. It just so happens that I live in a world filled with consumerism that causes it all to flow to me and surrounded by a majority of older folks than me that still haven't a clue on how to fulfill their ego greed.

Based on your comment; I take it you refuse raises when offered...?

God bless daily commuters of all ethnicity. I certainly do not discriminate at all.