Kentucky ‘free range’ family loses custody of 10 kids over apparent ‘unschooling’

a reply to: Dimithae

Totally agree with you.

And in the end, when this country's done swirling down the sewer, THEY will be able to survive, and pass on knowledge and the skills that suburbanites often lack.
My daughter tells me that if/when the SHTF, she's coming to live with us - we have a large home library, and knowledge of how to survive "off of the grid". We're in a great location for doing just that, too. (She is currently a Materials Science engineer at a MAJOR corporation that's been in existence since the 17th century and is growing - and is very devoted to alternative energies, clean energies, and so on.)

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

They are active posting their own blog entries, so that speaks to literacy in computers and language skills. Have a look at their older blog for the curriculum they have....

blessedlittlehomestead.blogspot.com...

I'm sorry, but speaking as the husband of a teacher I have to say that their page 'Why we homeschool' reveals them to be, in my opinion, a bunch of religious lunatics who believe in every insane right-wing myth about schooling, education, local government and indeed basic reality. If I lived next to them I'd ban them from my property.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

OH! Well, if they are religious lunatics, that is a whole 'nuther subject.

Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't go too deeply into their blog.
hmmmm.....
yeah, not cool at all if they are shoving religious doctrine down their kids' throats....which I'll look further into, thanks for pointing that out.

And apparently are anti-vaxxers.

le sigh

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

and they are also pushing for larger gov, and more gov intrustion.......

Progressives have continually pushed the US into a system of gov dependency...

the big gov nanny state they wish to have , comes in to play as big pappa gob comes and tell parents how they can and cannot raise their children...

And if they do not comply, they take them...

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

They are active posting their own blog entries, so that speaks to literacy in computers and language skills. Have a look at their older blog for the curriculum they have....

blessedlittlehomestead.blogspot.com...

I'm sorry, but speaking as the husband of a teacher I have to say that their page 'Why we homeschool' reveals them to be, in my opinion, a bunch of religious lunatics who believe in every insane right-wing myth about schooling, education, local government and indeed basic reality. If I lived next to them I'd ban them from my property.

and so what if they are, they have the right to homeschool if they want...

Thats not up for you or anyone else to decide for them...

Thats the great part about America......

People are allowed to have whatever beliefs they want

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

They are active posting their own blog entries, so that speaks to literacy in computers and language skills. Have a look at their older blog for the curriculum they have....

blessedlittlehomestead.blogspot.com...

I'm sorry, but speaking as the husband of a teacher I have to say that their page 'Why we homeschool' reveals them to be, in my opinion, a bunch of religious lunatics who believe in every insane right-wing myth about schooling, education, local government and indeed basic reality. If I lived next to them I'd ban them from my property.

and so what if they are, they have the right to homeschool if they want...

Thats not up for you or anyone else to decide for them...

Thats the great part about America......

People are allowed to have whatever beliefs they want

Yes, they have the right to homeschool - as long as they can provide their children with an adequate education. This takes time - my wife spends ages on lesson plans, she monitors their progress, she worries about the slower kids and she's very proud of the brighter ones, but then she's been a teacher for more than 30 years and she knows what to concentrate on and when to raise the alarm about if a kid has special needs. At some point those homeschooled kids are going to go out into the great wide world and try to make a living. Hell, they're going to have to connect with that great wide world. Have their parents given them the best education? There are ten kids, all at different ages. That's a lot to do in terms of education - and it's not just about reading and writing.

On a totally unrelated note I'd like to point out that my own education was very boring. This week my wife organised a lesson on Mexican food, so that her kids could learn something new. They made tortillas! I never so much as ever boiled an egg in class! I was cheated, cheated I tells ya!

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

and so what if they are, they have the right to homeschool if they want...

Thats not up for you or anyone else to decide for them...

Thats the great part about America......

People are allowed to have whatever beliefs they want

You are right about that.
As long as those beliefs don't infringe on or marginalize others -

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I don't think that being religious has anything to do with their decision to home school. If you actually look into what is being said in all of the blog links, you may detect a bit of disdain the family feels toward the whole system, education, banking, overreach of authorities, the modern American diet, and other things.

I follow no religion but still end up sharing most of this families views.

Public education is a travesty in this country. I home schooled after it became evident that my children were not learning but instead being programmed to follow rules, and not very wise rules at that.

Seems like there were no issues until the family had a conflict with a neighbor, then the neighbor did what there conditioned to do= call the authorities.

I support the off grid movement but I don't support idiots putting kids in harms way over a lifestyle choice. We don't know if this family put the kids in harms way as the accusations only began after some sort of conflict.

All we know is the kids have been removed without any charges being filed.

Blaming liberals and or progressives for absolutely everything bad that happens is like a meme. The attacks on the family has been going on for decades. Single parent families have been the norm for many years. Families that must have both parents working to get by has also been the norm for decades and the government working with farming industry to destroy the family farm has also become a normalcy in our society. The attack on the family has been standard operating procedure for at least since Nixon yet so many claim this is a new thing.

In 1980 there was 30,000 family farms in Nebraska today there is 3,000 thanks to agra industry and government. Isn't the family farm the perfect model for a family both socially and economically? Yet the struggle by industry to eliminate all competition and the complicit government has directly lead to the decline of the family unit in the USA.

Just keep on blaming progressives, liberal and or gays for all that ails us, I'm sure ignoring everything that's wrong will make it all go away.

a reply to: Witness2008

education, banking, overreach of authorities, the modern American diet, and other things.

I follow no religion but still end up sharing most of this families views.

Public education is a travesty in this country. I home schooled after it became evident that my children were not learning but instead being programmed to follow rules, and not very wise rules at that.

Yes. This.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

LOL it does sound as if you got the raw deal on that bud lol, now im hungry for flautas lol.......


I agree with most other points you made, as long as the schooling is up to par...

Most home schooled kids score considerably above par in testing and knowledge compared to public schools...

However for home schooling to be done right its important ti implement social aspects and extra curricular activities as well...

I know some parents are deficient in this area.

great post dude

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

and so what if they are, they have the right to homeschool if they want...

Thats not up for you or anyone else to decide for them...

Thats the great part about America......

People are allowed to have whatever beliefs they want

You are right about that.
As long as those beliefs don't infringe on or marginalize others -

agreed

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Cool. Glad to hear that.

Guess they forgot that this is the "land of the free"(tm)*

That family came dangerously close to raising some children who don't bow down and serve our banker overlords. Good thing the citizen harassment squad stepped in to correct them.


Can we take it back for the people, now? This is seriously getting stupid.

a reply to: lordcomac

That family came dangerously close to raising some children who don't bow down and serve our banker overlords.

Yes. I recall when my son was in middle school, and got his locker assignment. He and his best friend compared notes, and figured out that each of their lockers put them as far away from their "home room" as possible. Meaning they would be pushed to get to class before the bell.

They decided between themselves to swap lockers in order to make it easier to get to class on time.
The principal's office said they couldn't do that.

Stupidest thing I had heard in a long time. They were problem-solving and cooperating, for crying out loud!!

I taught my kids critical thinking, and that rules should be questioned.
I had a bumper sticker (and I worked in education for 25 years) -
"Stay in school
Learn the System
Then Change the System"

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Egads.

Look above. We cant have children getting a fair and better education than in our perfect socialist public education system . Therefore we must hold the kids hostage until the parents agree to have them "indoctrinated"
Thanks for the visual....pretty much sums it up.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Are you aware of the many millions of children that are in public education that continually fall behind and stay behind because they lack those same basic skills that you demand that home school children have?

I would suggest that there are fewer (proportionally) uneducated home schooled children compared to kids in the public schools.

This stuff gets under my skin. Coming from inner city Philadelphia were child and spouse abuse are prominent and seeing all the families being investigated over the years to have a slap on the wrist even though children were clearly beaten... i get to see this!!! Investigate, sure. Take the kids without investigating first? meh

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I had a very similar experience with my sons locker location in a middle school. He was told to serve Saturday hours at school for being tardy so much due to his locker location. I protested the punishment, I was called to the principals office so he could explain the policy. Not being pleased with his attitude I demanded to walk the same route with him and my son between the locker and the class. The principal had us running for the last two hallways. I was amazed at the fact he still would not give an inch explaining that my son was young and could make the distance in time, and not have to break the rules of no running through the hallways. Too many of these unbending, unthinking and militaristic people in charge of our children. One of the many reasons I home educated.

originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Are you aware of the many millions of children that are in public education that continually fall behind and stay behind because they lack those same basic skills that you demand that home school children have?

I would suggest that there are fewer (proportionally) uneducated home schooled children compared to kids in the public schools.

I am not saying that public schools are perfect. What I am saying is that when properly funded and supported they can do a hell of a lot better job at educating children than some parents can at home, because they have the resources to do so. Schools take the time and effort to educate children. That's the whole point. How many hours of the day can parents take to homeschool their own children? How can they work and homeschool? How much attention does each child get? What kind of books are available? What if there's a dyslexic child? What's the best way to educate your child on geography? Science? Literature?

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm sure that there are dedicated parents who take the time and effort to give their children the best homeschooling possible. But what kind of percentage of the homeschooling total do they make up? How many more kids are being let down by their parents due to the latter's lack of resources or worse personal religious or political beliefs? When I went to school I loved the library there and I would spend hours in it, reading. Can homeschooled children do that?