The Original Sin was the Mix between Human DNA and the DNA of the Fallen Angels.

The facts behind the Old Testament stories were explained to Peruvian contactee Sixto Paz Wells, as told in his book titled Contacto interdimensional -- Los Guías hablan de nuevo. The complete timeline of the history of planet Earth, past and future, based on that book, can be found in a blog entry titled "The 7 Humankinds". Theosophists would say "the 7 root races". The third root race, or Lemurians, which are the Subsaharan Africans, is supposed to be on its way to extinction (that's not what it looks like, in spite of the AIDS pandemic), the survivors of the fourth root race, or the Atlanteans, are living amongst us, and the present, or fifth root race, would be the Aryans. The Nazis found the theosophical teachings useful for their purposes, which is why Theosophists are accused of being racists, but what happened was that the Nazis distorted those teachings, just as they distorted Nietzsche's concepts.

so the apple that eve ate was actually a fat alien cock? sweet

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason


In my school days I once made the terrible mistake of writing something silly that I thought was funny, about a teacher, for the school newspaper. Then the newspaper editor, who was a classmate, warned me in a friendly way and said that a teacher who supervised everything that was to be published had found my comment unacceptable and had said: "He's just trying to be cute." I was expected to delete the offending passage but I refused to do so and suffered the consequences. Now, concerning the tale about the Talking Snake, would it be of any use to tell you all about the symbolism involved? I think not. It seems like all you're concerned about is Ukraine, which has always been merely the Russian backyard, just as Latin America is nothing but the U.S. backyard, or something like "the fringes of Empire". до свидания and best wishes to the Chocolate King.

a reply to: quodlibet

i have many interests and concerns. just because i make a comment stemming from being in a goofy mood doesnt mean i dont take the subject seriously.

Original sin?.

Gee, what if someone were to come to the realization that supposed "original sin" was nothing but propaganda and nothing more than a way make the masses feel guilty and afraid for even being born into this life and feel inferior to those who supposedly are in a position to be their supposed rulers?.

I may be in error to resent being branded as a sinner from the day of my birth to the day of my death and made to feel guilty for even being born whether or not I asked to live this life at all.

The world will be more enjoyable place to live when these cave man beliefs are done away with and people are allowed to live through their lives without having to feel guilty about ever showing up.....

I like thinking I have some kind of choice in the matter and resent anyone who believes they don't have a choice.....

And I ain't even gonna get started on this "free will" which is really nothing but an ultimatum....

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason


So now that I managed to kick you out of a silly mood why not get on with this business about the Elohim, the Demon Disguised as a Snake, the Chosen Crowd & the Entire History of Planet Earth, past & future. No one can prove anything about any supposed contactee, & many "contactees" are impostors, but Sixto does seem to be the Real McCoy, & this is the timeline the Visitors passed on to him:

-- supervised by the 24 Elders, who are disembodied entities that make up the galactic gov't., many ET civilizations have been visiting Earth & started doing so long before there were human beings on it,

-- the local gov't., which rules what terrestrial science calls the "Local Group", but ETs call the "Local Universe", is the Andromeda Council of 9, &, contrary to what our science claims, the Andromeda Galaxy is the dominant member of the said group, around which all other members of the group revolve like satellites,

-- Earth has been subjected to many genetic experiments, & there has been hybidization, ET colonization, ET "shipwrecks" & even banishment due to misconduct (ETs left behind to fend for themselves on Earth),

-- first to arrive were the Ancient Fathers, from the Constellation of the Swan, when the ocean was acidic, & they added life forms to it & used certain chemical reactions in order to alcalinize it (which, I will add, agrees with what science says about a slightly acidic primordial ocean),

-- they were the first humankind & eventually hibridized with human beings & instructed them, & they're called the "Antarctic Humankind" because they settled down in underwater bases in what we now call "Antarctica", which in those days was on the equator (this also agrees with modern science [cp. "plate tectonics", first suggested by Wegener]),

-- they left because 1) after their contribution to the development of life, Nature had to run its own course, & 2) the planet was still far too geologically unstable & its continents too soggy to harbor any kind of civilization,

-- eons later there was a second visit, during the Mesozoic Era, and these visitors are called the "Hyperboreans" because they colonized the northern reaches, but Earth remained unstable, & there were several consecutive waves of emigration because they feared the impact of a celestial object, so that when it happened there were few of them still on Earth, & it was the catastrophic impact that was one of the causes (maybe the main cause, but I'm just guessing here) of the extinction the dinos about 65 million yrs. ago,

-- during the next, or Cenozoic, Era, seven engineers whom the Bible calls the "Elohim" arrived in order to promote the development of native humans (they are a hierarchy that is inferior to that of the 24 Elders, the Guardians are on a third level & the Guides or Instructors are on a fourth level), & the development of an androgynous people was attempted (Plato tells about this) in the artificial environment of a huge "greenhouse" or "laboratory" spaceship (with plants & nonhuman animals that were added to the native species), but this was a failure, so they had to go back to the concept of separate sexes (fortunately!),

-- our ancestors, who were brought up within that gigantic ship, were told never to consume certain plants that contained hallucinogens, since that would cause both physical & psychic harm, but one of the Elohim disagreed & thought that it would be a fruitful experience, having been persuaded by a disembodied entity called "Lucifer", so he secretly suggested that they do so, & this was the first case of the use of psychoactive (mind-distorting) substances, & meanwhile the other six mistakenly assumed that the idea had been conceived by the humans, whose curiosity was deemed to be perilous, so they were expelled from the ship, were surprised to find other humans roaming outside & interbred with them, & when the truth was discovered the dissenting Elohim was left behind on Earth, which was the first case of banishment, but eventually they returned to pick him up & see how the humans were faring (this is what the Bible records as the Tale of the Garden of Eden),

-- the Third Humankind was the Lemurian, the first one to be entirely terrestrial, & it was the outcome of the genetic experiments of the Elohim (they are the present-day Africans south of the Sahara),

-- the Guides who arrived in order to supervise human development were unable to resist the temptation of interbreeding with humans (cp. the gods of the Greek pantheon, who did the same), & this led to the Fourth Humankind, the Atlanteans, all of which were taken to some islands in the Atlantic Ocean where their civilization developed, but they were given information that they were unready to use wisely & this led to the destruction of that civilization due to a geological upheaval, but some Atlanteans managed to emigrate before it was too late, &

-- two ET civilizations were assigned the mission of planning the last stage of human development, & Part 2 of this account will tell about it, sometime in the next few days (?).

a reply to: quodlibet

dude i dont care. i only know what i know. i know that there is alot I dont know and alot more that ill never figure out. whether or not bull# like lemurians and atlantians ruled the world or 24 elders and all that other unprovable none sense doesnt really matter to me. it used to but ive realized my focus needs to be on more constructive things. all i want to do is be a good person and to see the world and its inhabitants prosper.

a reply to: AVoiceOfReason


A commendable attitude, and it could be ascribed to a saintly soul, if it weren't for the allusion to cattle excrement.

a reply to: quodlibet

if you werent so self centered you might be able to connect and understand others better.

Please, let's not derail the thread. There are other threads about contactees, Lemuria, etc, etc. This thread is not about those topics, so do not derail it.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Original sin probably has more to do with ego than anything.

Man knows better than God therefore he disobeys his command.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse


The contactee, authentic or not, was not the main subject of my comment, and simply the source of a new interpretation of the concept of "original sin" that was the reason for wanting to join the discussion. Lemuria is mentioned because it's in the timeline, which was included so as not to yank the Eve affair out of context. It was this sort of misreadings that had made the discussions fruitless and a waste of time and kept me away for many months. Now I come back and it's happening again, after the very first comment. This time it's до свидания forevermore.

DENY CONFUSION

a reply to: quodlibet

A "contactee" may or may not be telling the truth. All you have to go on is their claims and nothing else. The thread is not about contactees but rather what ancient texts describe about these events.

The original sin was Mars crashing into venus hurting her and she conceived a child which had never happened before in all infinity. .Gaia was born and with it man and the paradox of belief...I screwed it up..it was me

Adam and eve where skins..mars and venus our their names
a reply to: jjkenobi

Micheal and i ride now. Tread soft
a reply to: thomasronin

The symbolism in genesis is not that difficult to understand. The Garden of Eden is within us all, the tree, an upside down representation of our nervous system. The apple which resides on a branch of our nervous system is sexual energy, which we were warned, would imprison us in birth/death cycles or if you like reincarnation.

By using spiritual energy to experience short term sexual pleasure, we are in fact blocking GODs light from entering our vessel. But as stated in Genesis, GOD promised us free choice. So original sin is a fabrication by those that didn't understand the symbolism in Genesis.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
A lot of people seem to think that in Genesis when it describes that Eve ate the fruit from the tree of Knowledge, most people think this to mean it was a fruit taken from a literal tree. But was it simply a fruit taken from a tree? Or was this a reference to something else?

It's an allegory.

By deliberately disobeying God, both Adam and Eve committed an intentional sin, separating themselves from God's presence.

The "knowledge" gained was that one could do this. Not some magic apple with info in it. The actual phrase used is "Etz ha-da'at tov va-ra", not "the tree of knowledge" but "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". Prior, neither Adam nor Eve knew what evil was, as they lived in total obedience, and there were no rules other than "don't do this one thing". So they couldn't disobey any law except that one. And they did.

After, they knew sin, guilt, shame, blame, etc. So, the story is a set of archetypal behavior and allegory. It's not meant to be interpreted as there being a literal tree with info fruit on it.

a reply to: Bedlam

As god makes all..and is all knowing..think about it.. one cannot convince himself of it as sin..sin is a mirror of guilt..that I have known..
The conception happened in the sky..mars, venus and man fell ashamed..guilt..for one mistake made mankind and the ultimate parabola. .how could these monkeys understand what just happened..