September 11: The New Pearl Harbor [Video]

a reply to: samkent

So you think no one could pull it off and yet the ineptitude exists to allow a completely implausible scenario to occur all the while looking like it is completely planned ??

You are the conspiracy theorist here.

originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: samkent

So you think no one could pull it off and yet the ineptitude exists to allow a completely implausible scenario to occur all the while looking like it is completely planned ??

You are the conspiracy theorist here.

Ha! Don't you just love how magically, "Ineptitude" becomes a viable excuse for the "most powerful nation in the world"! You know, the nation that spends more on "defense" that the entire rest of the world put together! And the suckers BUY IT? Wow, stupid has NO limits does it?

I picked up these CD's a years or more ago and have been sending them round to all I can just as is suggested. As a structural steel designer perhaps I know much more about how steel structure fail when they do than the average Joe, but seriously people, even assuming that the top portions of the structure were to have been magically able to be superheated to the point where the steel would be weakened to the point of collapse, how TF do you ignore that fact that the mid section steel was still at room temperature and, if it followed the laws of physics and structural dynamics, would have deflected the falling top sections off to the side? Grow a brain America before the lack of one causes your lungs to stop moving in and out.

originally posted by: samkentNot one person has been able to come up with a reason that enemy countries would help to cover up a 911 conspiracy.
Iran has engineers. But even they believe it stemmed from 19 Saudis crashing planes into buildings.

Your going about it all wrong. Rather than a simple cause and effect situation look at the picture as a whole. Ask yourself who has the most to gain from America being stuck in perpetual war in the middle east?

Certainly not anyone in the countries these war's are waged in. The motives are a lot more complicated than hatred and anger towards our way of life. If that were true why in 14 years have we not seen another elaborate attack on American soil?

Rather we get some idiot on a plane setting his crotch on fire and another using a lighter to set off his shoe bomb. Did the terrorists use up all the smart ones on 9/11?

What we witnessed on 09/11/01 was something far more complex and elaborate than the people we are told committed it are capable of.

S&F op on my way to watch it now.

a reply to: JAY1980

It would seem that some people are willfully ignorant and dont care about truths, they come here and places like liveleak, youtube and troll truth videos with the same old, this is old news, nothing to see here tactic.

Funny how 1 or 2 people here try to defend the debunked official narrative claiming that it would take to many people for 911 to be a conspiracy yet it only took 19 hijackers to have knowledge of the wargame exercises, slipping into them with real planes, hijacking the faa through israeli ptech. 19. According to the official story it took only 19 poorly trained 1 inch knife wielding patsies.

Did you know that the 1st official death on 911 was none other than billionaire ex israeli mossad/ sayeret matkal elite anti terror unit member Daniel Lewin?

a reply to: Cauliflower

You would really need to go back to the early 1960's when they dreamed this project up to understand their goals.
Yamasaki designed the towers to be imploded there is no doubt about that.

So they designed the building in 1966 to be imploded 35 years later ....??

Brilliant - we design the buildings so at some future point can have fun blowing them up.......

Buildings in NYC are not imploded because there is no space. Setting off explosives would break every window for
at least a block (probably more) Also what about the debris pile ?? What about the dust?? Coating everything
in area with thick layer of dust..... That would tend op PO a lot of people Or all the asbestos in older buildings.....

Buildings in NYC are dismantled floor by floor using cranes - ie 130 Liberty St aka Deutsch Bank

Look it up - pay attention to fire while dismantling which killed 2 firemen

wirednewyork.com...

a reply to: fireladdie

Back in 1964 I thought it would be kind of risky to implode and suggested the crane solution.
Answer then was there might not be enough money set aside from rents to cover dismantling.
The date of implosion was to be kept secret so gawkers wouldn't show up and file insurance claims.

Site owner built some other buildings as a `shield but it still was bound to do some serious damage to real estate values in the area.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Oh right it's not that the vids are bs...It's the poster who just doesn't understand.
After fourteen years you'd think if there was any evidence that stands in the face of reality every body would know it. It's been 14,years!!!! There is nothing new to discover.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Dude, the only people who are going to bother watching four freakin hours of this are people who already think there was some nefarious conspiracy committed on 911. No one is being "turned" at this stage of the game.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Shadow Herder

Oh right it's not that the vids are bs...It's the poster who just doesn't understand.
After fourteen years you'd think if there was any evidence that stands in the face of reality every body would know it. It's been 14,years!!!! There is nothing new to discover.

Everybody does know it.

i don't know anyone that believes 911 happened the way the official narrative states... except on ATS, where there are still a few ignorant posters that not only still believe the OS after 14 years of public skepticism, but bash anyone that does not believe it with them.

a reply to: JAY1980

What we witnessed on 09/11/01 was something far more complex and elaborate than the people we are told committed it are capable of.

The government or any group can't do complex and elaborate without screwing something up royally.
This has been shown time and time again.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

i don't know anyone that believes 911 happened the way the official narrative states... except on ATS

Consider expanding your circle of friends.
No one I know believes in these silly conspiracies.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: JAY1980

What we witnessed on 09/11/01 was something far more complex and elaborate than the people we are told committed it are capable of.

The government or any group can't do complex and elaborate without screwing something up royally.
This has been shown time and time again.

You are just recycling old excuses for selling public assets to the private sector. This excuse has NO barring on the abilities of intelligence and defence. It had been shown time and time again that those 2 branches are very prone to cover-ups.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: MALBOSIA

i don't know anyone that believes 911 happened the way the official narrative states... except on ATS

Consider expanding your circle of friends.
No one I know believes in these silly conspiracies.

Who said anything about believing conspiracies? Nobody I know believes the OS, I never said anything about believing conspiracies.

Your friends believe what they hear on the news? The Easter bunny too?

I suppose that there ARE logical reasons that some people refuse to even want the truth and I know some people that take this route. My daughter's boyfriend is a hardcore SWAT cop who told me that he cannot go there because if he ever believed that it was an inside job or even that the ruling scum looked the other way then he would NOT be able to do his job. Paycheck and pension over truth, a common choice. Fear is another good reason for Sheeple to believe whatever lie it is that puts them to sleep because they cannot deal with scary thoughts. Frankly, the worst ones IMHO are those that just don't give a damn, and there are lot of them out there. They give lip service to catastrophe and disaster, join in the mourning "parties" but only really give a damn about what is happening in their own Cul-De-Sacs. Self centeredness was one of the diseases or tactics spread by mass consumerism that really put the damper on the American ability to actually CARE and scary thoughts make it harder for these people to carry on.

a reply to: samkent

But 19 guys with boxcutters can outperform top military brass? So, 19 guys coordinated by cave satellites can bring chaos but not a highly-trained covert team? Okay! Keep your vision alive, Sam.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

There's plenty of evidence right in front of your eyes. Are you critical enough to examine it or is it too icky to be considered a conspiracy theorist? Cognitive dissonance is bliss, right?

a reply to: MALBOSIA

And I don't know anybody who thinks our government was responsible which really only says something about our associations . You associate with people who share your views and I associate with people who share mine. That in and of itself doesn't indicate the validity of either view. By and large more people believe as I do that 19 Arabs with box cutters flew planes into American buildings with the intent on terrorizing the American people. 911was by far Al Quadas biggest coup. These guys love that Americans bicker about this and they really love that we don't trust our own chosen leaders. Way to go.
These bastards will continue to do this kind of thing. Bit by bit by bit. But remember it was ameboas on fleas on rats that took out half the world's population.
While we argue they plot. They'll do it again. Hurt us and embarrass us. While we chase our tails with stories of building seven.

originally posted by: bobbypurify
a reply to: AutumnWitch657

There's plenty of evidence right in front of your eyes. Are you critical enough to examine it or is it too icky to be considered a conspiracy theorist? Cognitive dissonance is bliss, right?

Which evidence?
The evidence that says there were no planes?
Or the evidence that says if there were planes they were drones?
Perhaps the evidence that it was a controlled demolition?
Or the evidence that there were explosions.
The hear say and oft quoted murmuring of orders shouted over the chaos. All of it? There are conflicting theories. None of it? George Bushes face that day sure looked surprised to me. Dumbstruck to be exact.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: MALBOSIA

And I don't know anybody who thinks our government was responsible which really only says something about our associations . You associate with people who share your views and I associate with people who share mine. That in and of itself doesn't indicate the validity of either view. By and large more people believe as I do that 19 Arabs with box cutters flew planes into American buildings with the intent on terrorizing the American people. 911was by far Al Quadas biggest coup. These guys love that Americans bicker about this and they really love that we don't trust our own chosen leaders.

Way to go.
These bastards will continue to do this kind of thing. Bit by bit by bit. But remember it was ameboas on fleas on rats that took out half the world's population.
While we argue they plot. They'll do it again. Hurt us and embarrass us. While we chase our tails with stories of building seven.

Nope. Never said anybody I know thinks the government was behind 9/11. That is twice I have corrected you about the same thing so you arr either terrible at reading or extremely ignorant.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

The evidence of steel suddenly becoming compromised and giving way to a disentegrating chunk of building (top section) that's losing mass at every juncture of collapse. That same steel was stories below any jet fuel, yet; as it held this mass up for years before, less mass combined with some momentum was able to sheer through the entire building much like a controlled demo would. This defies physics and wasn't adequately explained by anyone, because you can't without an accelerator like explosives, extreme heat, DEW, etc. Simple laws of the earth aren't enough to bring buildings down - if they were, we wouldn't line them with explosives to demo, we'd just sever a floor and let the laws of nature do the rest. That is not the case.