Bernie Sanders Raises $1.5 Million on First Day of Campaign

a reply to: links234

Good One!
To be clear,
Social Justice and Socialism
are not quite exactly the same
item.

So no matter what label
is placed on the product,
it is always in ones best interest
to read the ingredients.

Best to you,

S&F

a reply to: links234

OMG! Could Bernie Sanders be the next Barack Obama? He's the one who proved that "Grass Root" movements matter!

Go Bernie!

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: links234

Registered independent. Have been for decades.

I'm actually a registered Republican because of primary voting. I have been the past 3 years since moving to PA. I cast my general ballot in a very NON gop way. Switching it to Dem for this election. Go Bernie Go.

a reply to: links234

I dont know if I trust him, he is a pretty big populist. Just because he says he is for something has no bearing on what he is going to do if he gets elected. Sometimes TBTB will stack both sides of the idealogical isle to make sure they stay in power no matter what. Its called controlled dissent. I have noticed a lot of people on the left side of the spectrum stay away from certain issues, 911 truth, auditing the Fed, the second amendment, etc, which leads me to believe there is a covert agenda on the left. Be aware and research these people before you express allegiance to them.


Here is Bill Maher, supposed progressive, shouting down 911 truthers on his show. Why is he so opposed to listening to what they had to say?? Why is anything but the official story of 911 off limits to progressive pundits? These are people who are supposed to be championing freedom of expression? It has really put me at odds with the left.Randi Rhodes also refused to talk about it as well. Its suspicious to say the least.





I like a lot of the positions of Mr Sanders, but he is a little TOO conveniently tuned in the populist viewpoints for me.

The minute someone from the reigns of power starts telling you they are for the common man, TEST the validity of that assertion to the fullest extent possible. And question their motives. They might just be the hand picked people put there to keep REAL progressives out of the picture.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: links234

Sanders is going to get my vote in the primaries.

He's against the Patriot Act.

That's the only issue I'm really concerned with.

The Patriot Act has brought us DHS, TSA, NDAA.

Sanders says he'll repeal the act.



QED.

Well each time a politician other than say the occasional Ron Paul types said they would do everything they could to vote something out, either party as far as I can tell it doesn't matter, they back down and we continue this march to a totalitarian Orwellian state. The D''s crowed bout Homeland Security and Patriot act but didn't stop it when they had full control of the Congress and Senate and the R's have similar tales for the things they project they are against, get voted in JUST to do that and then find ways to back down too. We are hosed if we don't vote totally new people from the Tea and Green parties who have NO connection to the established overlords. But someone will miss the point and think Tea are "baggers' and Green are "commies" if we could get that discussion rolling. I want true debate and people with backbone to stick to their ideas after they win using those ideas as their platform.

originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: beezzer

Good to hear! To think... Beezzer and I might be voting on the same candidate.

Me, too! Isn't it great to find commonalities? Go Bernie!

originally posted by: beezzer
I can't vote in the primaries as a registered Independent in my state. (forgive me, I'm new here) Will have to do something about that.

I have never registered with a party of any kind, not even Independent, but this election just may convince me to register as a Democrat to vote for Bernie... I hate the idea but I'm sure thinking about it.

a reply to: openminded2011
It was an amendment proposed by Bernie Sanders that got the Fed Audited. I don't know his feelings on 9/11 but almost every Friday, he does an hour long "town hall meeting" on The Thom Hartman show where he takes phone calls from listeners. Thom has been known to allow people to talk about 9/11 fairly freely so, by association, I would say that he doesn't distance himself from the topic.

Bernie has been talking about inequity and having the government work for the people for decades. He's not your standard politician which is why a lot of people think he can't win. I, for one, am willing to help him try. We need change and Bernie is the real deal. Check out his record.

I've been hoping for a candidate worth voting for for some time. I dug Ron Paul, but that didn't really work out. I know a lot of folks think there's no point in voting at all, and that real change would only be possible outside of all the systems currently in place. But, I figure, it'd have to start somewhere. This guy seems to be radical. Radical in a way that I don't entirely disagree with, there's a lot about socialism that I can get behind morally, despite being a monetary conservative. If the system in place isn't working, it might be worth looking at alternate strategies. The kind of capitalism currently in place has the deck stacked against most folks, especially in tandem with the current economic policy more focused on human debt capital than producing useful things. Socialism still has a bad reputation, with all that red scare hangover and propaganda, I wonder how many folks are truly familiar with socialist politics. I found I agree with it much more than I suspected I would.

But yeah, here's hoping this election introduces some common sense into politics, whoever gets elected.

I would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat. He would be a good match for Dennis Kucinich if he could get him as his VP. Here is a speech he made in Austin Texas and it is the best speech I've heard from a Presidential candidate in quite a while.

originally posted by: fltcui
I can't bring myself to vote for a socialist, but.... I will be voting for a third party nominee. I have no idea which one yet.
No longer voting for either of the 2 major parties. It's the only way I know of that we could possibly change Washington.

Why not i wonder?

It is not as if capitalism is o so healthy and wonderfull. It is the reason why people like Hillary clinton can amass a billion dollars and basically buy the position of POTUS. Going hard right or going hard left is never a good thing and america has only been going hard right for decades and to much leaning on the idea of capitalisme is the the one thing that is breaking us down. A little bit of socialism in this overtly capatilistic country would bring a bit of balance to it all. It would certaintly not turn into comunisme in the next 5 decades if a "socialist" president (if you can really even call him that) would be at the head for 4 or 8 years.I mean most other countries only see us as right wingers,no matter if we think of ourselves as left wingers and for good reason.

Just look at what all these capitalistic presidents so far have brough us. Why not vote for a more or less socialistic president for once? Why jump in so blindly just because most of us have been taught that Socialism is such a bad word?

He doesn't stand much of a chance but thank goodness there's someone running against Hillary. There might at least be some kind of real discussion of the issues and someone to vote for in the primary besides Clinton.

a reply to: links234

Oh great now we have socialists running for office in a country that is a republic..

God this country is going to hell in a hand basket.. I hope to hell this man does not get in..


people trying to destroy this country I swear!

a reply to: OpinionatedB

An honest question ma'am, isn't "socialistic" to keep and maintain the Patriot Act?

I've no great love for Bush, and Obama certainly has maintained the status quo, but isn't it less socialistic to rid ourselves of the DHS, TSA, NDAA. . all organisations under the umbrella of the Patriot Act?

Sanders and I disagree on 99% of things, but I feel that this is a key issue. Sanders states that he'll repeal the Patriot Act.

We can debate all sorts of economic, social reforms, but until our individual liberties are once again guaranteed, then any other argument is a moot point at best.

At least, that is my humble opinion.

“Ninety-nine percent of all new income generated in this country is going to the top one percent,” Sanders said while announcing his candidacy during a Thursday press conference. “How does it happen that the top one percent owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent? And my conclusion is that type of economics is not only immoral, it is not only wrong, it is unsustainable. It can’t continue.”

“I was out there at some of these events,” Nichols says. “What he heard was an awful lot of people saying that the number one issue in this country today is wage stagnation. Maybe some people would call it income inequality, but there was generally a sense that the economy is working incredibly well for billionaires, but not very well for the rest of us.”

www.pri.org...

I really don't understand how can anybody disagree with these arguments unless he's a billionaire or at least a millionaire.

double post

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A socialist?! 'Nuff said.

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: links234

Oh great now we have socialists running for office in a country that is a republic..

God this country is going to hell in a hand basket.. I hope to hell this man does not get in..


people trying to destroy this country I swear!

Europe is "socialist" and I rather enjoyed my visit(s) over there.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Heh, try living there and paying taxes and remaining employed and paying for a family, etc.