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BREAKING: Iran Forces Seize US Cargo Ship With 34 People On Board

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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

There is a simple explanation.

The "politics was over" and the media had their day.

Indeed, she was released from MILITARY incarceration and allowed to proceed. About 0.5 of a millisecond later, the non military PORT STATE INSPECTORS became involved and the rest is history.

Other than prostitution, literally, you are dealing with the oldest industry on the planet.

Land-lubbers=30% planets surface
Seafarers=70% planets surface

Why do you think I am borderline OCD with ancient archeology?????????



edit on 29-4-2015 by Sublimecraft because: beer



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

I've been there - that phone call from (now me) - "Captain, you will proceed under US military guidance - is that understood"

[see's $250,000/year pay packet waved in front of him]



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Asktheanimals

I've been there - that phone call from (now me) - "Captain, you will proceed under US military guidance - is that understood"

[see's $250,000/year pay packet waved in front of him]

I would have been the guy that told my brass, "We need to get that guy"
edit on 4/29/2015 by AllSourceIntel because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: peck420

MAERSK TIGRIS which flies another flag to avoid heavy taxes but the MAERSK ALABAMA prompted a large U.S. Navy response so Obama is just stalling here because he knows his deal with Iran just got ruined in 3,2,1, .

The owner of MAERSK will fry Obozos butt if he doesn't get his ship and people back soon.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: peck420

MAERSK TIGRIS which flies another flag to avoid heavy taxes but the MAERSK ALABAMA prompted a large U.S. Navy response so Obama is just stalling here because he knows his deal with Iran just got ruined in 3,2,1, .

The owner of MAERSK will fry Obozos butt if he doesn't get his ship and people back soon.

M/V Maersk Tigris is being legally (by international law) detained by Iranians to claim collection on a decades old debt. See page 17.

M/V Maersk Alabama was boarded by pirates, conducting piracy, a crime under international law.

The difference is exercising recognized maritime rights versus, well, exercising recognized maritime crime.
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: AllSourceIntel

Yeah I just read all the previous post and seen the excuse they are using. This is the second time in a week they have harassed commercial cargo in that area. Seems they need to be taught a lesson. They should get a huge tanker, load it with wild hogs (all with remotely detonated suicide vest on) every tenth hog needs to have a GoPro strapped to it and let it float into their waters with the hogs in containers so they have no idea whats in them LMAO. When they take it to port, remotely open all the containers! The Hogs would chase all those nuts all over the area and wipe it out.

That would be PRICELESS!


(post by crazyewok removed for a manners violation)

posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

Translation:

Derp Derp ME American Derp derp America strong derp Derp America make war Derp derp RAAAAR RAAAR RAAAR!


Honestly to all the decent Americans you need to keep your Neanderthals offline.

As nice as that would be, it would flat out be completely, un-American, as in, he can speak his voice even if it is derp, derpity, derped up.

These, though, are the people that when the shapoopy hits the fan, will either be taken out first because they go guns a blazing without any tactical or strategic thought, or cower and wimper and get left behind.
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 04:16 PM
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They were after a Maersk company ship, as Maersk owed money to an Iranian company for a large shipment that never arrived. I think they saw the Marshall Islands flag and decided to 'push' the ship into Iranian waters just a little bit. The US is will defend The Marshall Islands if attacked, but in a commercial maritime situation, we aren't fully bound to. I thin k the Iranian company might get it's money back.
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posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Neutrality
a reply to: yuppa

don't feed the troll plz


you mean the S H I L L S


That's right, everybody that has any inkling of disagreement with America or Americans is Russian obviously.

This really highlights the fact that there is only TWO sides on this world, AMERICAN, and NOT-AMERICAN. And being American is a very VARIABLE definition that seems to change WEEKLY.

It is like not being AMERICAN (by that weekly definition) is second rate, second class.



Funny I did not say your name. So how do you know i am talking about you?

Seeing post on this subject If the company owes soem money they should pay for it. It s not as if MERSK cant afford it.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: AllSourceIntel

originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: peck420

MAERSK TIGRIS which flies another flag to avoid heavy taxes but the MAERSK ALABAMA prompted a large U.S. Navy response so Obama is just stalling here because he knows his deal with Iran just got ruined in 3,2,1, .

The owner of MAERSK will fry Obozos butt if he doesn't get his ship and people back soon.

M/V Maersk Tigris is being legally (by international law) detained by Iranians to claim collection on a decades old debt. See page 17.

M/V Maersk Alabama was boarded by pirates, conducting piracy, a crime under international law.

The difference is exercising recognized maritime rights versus, well, exercising recognized maritime crime.


This. The Iranians might very well be dicks and trouble makers, but if the line owed them money, they'd be dicks and troublemakers with legal standing.

Lesson: don't owe money to fanatics with Silkworm missles and pass through their waters.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: reldra

By agreement the US is as responsible for the safety of the Marshall Islands and their citizens in the same manner they are responsible for US citizens.

Iran has a right to use lawful means to collect civil fines. They have no right to force a ship into their territorial waters by firing warning shots at it to to get it there.



posted on Apr, 29 2015 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: AllSourceIntel

originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: peck420

MAERSK TIGRIS which flies another flag to avoid heavy taxes but the MAERSK ALABAMA prompted a large U.S. Navy response so Obama is just stalling here because he knows his deal with Iran just got ruined in 3,2,1, .

The owner of MAERSK will fry Obozos butt if he doesn't get his ship and people back soon.

M/V Maersk Tigris is being legally (by international law) detained by Iranians to claim collection on a decades old debt. See page 17.

M/V Maersk Alabama was boarded by pirates, conducting piracy, a crime under international law.

The difference is exercising recognized maritime rights versus, well, exercising recognized maritime crime.


This. The Iranians might very well be dicks and trouble makers, but if the line owed them money, they'd be dicks and troublemakers with legal standing.

Lesson: don't owe money to fanatics with Silkworm missles and pass through their waters.


True but as I look into it I don't think the captain went into their waters by accident. He was coerced to do so. The incident a week prior is they send out patrol boats and make you steer to avoid them like Hurding cattle. also explains all the twists and turns he was avoiding hitting them until they got him into their waters. And if your a captain and people are firing your bot worried about where you are at the moment your worried about getting our of their.

Next any decision made by an Irani an court is not legally binding The case needed to be brought before the world court of course that probably didn't happen because they would have lost.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra



By agreement the US is as responsible for the safety of the Marshall Islands and their citizens in the same manner they are responsible for US citizens


Which agreement?

Please quote the exact portion of the agreement that states this.

Or are you just blowing smoke?



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: AllSourceIntel

originally posted by: Patriotsrevenge
a reply to: peck420

MAERSK TIGRIS which flies another flag to avoid heavy taxes but the MAERSK ALABAMA prompted a large U.S. Navy response so Obama is just stalling here because he knows his deal with Iran just got ruined in 3,2,1, .

The owner of MAERSK will fry Obozos butt if he doesn't get his ship and people back soon.

M/V Maersk Tigris is being legally (by international law) detained by Iranians to claim collection on a decades old debt. See page 17.

M/V Maersk Alabama was boarded by pirates, conducting piracy, a crime under international law.

The difference is exercising recognized maritime rights versus, well, exercising recognized maritime crime.


This. The Iranians might very well be dicks and trouble makers, but if the line owed them money, they'd be dicks and troublemakers with legal standing.

Lesson: don't owe money to fanatics with Silkworm missles and pass through their waters.


True but as I look into it I don't think the captain went into their waters by accident. He was coerced to do so. The incident a week prior is they send out patrol boats and make you steer to avoid them like Hurding cattle. also explains all the twists and turns he was avoiding hitting them until they got him into their waters. And if your a captain and people are firing your bot worried about where you are at the moment your worried about getting our of their.

Next any decision made by an Irani an court is not legally binding The case needed to be brought before the world court of course that probably didn't happen because they would have lost.


Well, the Iranians are known for such shennanigans because they want an excuse to make trouble. They are also known to alter navigation aids in hopes a ship or aircraft gets close enough to justify response.



posted on Apr, 30 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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All US flagged vessels will have a US Navy escort when in the Persian golf courtesy Iran.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: Scottsman2014
a reply to: intrptr

It Isn't A US naval ship,but a private ran cargo ship from Marshall Island that owes Iran money fee's for going into Iran's waterway, over and over again.

Sorry for the delay, thanks for the input…



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: real_one

To lazy to actually educate yourself and look for the info?

United States - Marshall Island - Free Association Compact - *** PDF FILE ***

I recommend you read it all if you are really interested.. If you cant summon the energy then jump to section 311, Part B, subsection 1:





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