Colorado businessman blames 'stoned' workers for move to SC

originally posted by: Foderalover
a reply to: tinker9917
The doctors and nurses are high on something worse called pain killers, I work a dangerous job mainly on roofs, I smoke everyday, the only dumb bells are the naturally stupid people I have to deal with and since when do restaurant workers put things in the food that kill people because they were high ? that's idiotic, almost every restaurant worker that works in the kitchen smokes, would be hard to find some who dont.

You work a dangerous job on roof, could be a danger to other people (up there and on the ground) and you go to work stoned?? REALLY??? (Dumbell status, HELLOO!!! ) THAT is what I'm talking about!!!

That is what is idiotic.

AND AGAIN... I'm not against using and I myself would if I could, but BE RESPOSIBLE about it.

a reply to: pteridine

We also have the Hemp Society telling us how we can make all sorts of useful things from hemp and why it is the best plant ever for fabric and stuff and that hemp doesn't really have much THC. What they don't mention is that it is tough to tell the difference when growing the other brand in with the hemp. I wonder what their subtle plan is.

This is why educating yourself about the facts of cannabis would quell most of your concern.

Only idiots would purposely grow MJ and Hemp together. They will cross pollinate and the MJ would lose its potency so much hardly anyone would want it. Worse than dirt weed.

A single Hemp plant can cross-pollinate an entire field it is so effective at cutting down the potency there were plans for forest services to drop Hemp seeds in suspected illegal grow areas to ruin the crops. Of course, that made too much sense and the DEA never really wanted to end the drug war because doing so would leave them jobless.


Take some time and read up on the subjects you are talking about because you are really lacking on the factual information but you have plenty of misconceptions.

Ignorance has been denied.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Go ahead and doubt me some more. I live here, you DON'T. I've lived her all my life. I see what has happened...

a reply to: Grimpachi Your comment may be true but there are several I know who support the Hemp Society that have told me that when everyone is growing hemp, it will be easier to grow special hemp. I have no real concern about cannabis, just about those who smoke it and hop into a car believing that their good feeling makes them better drivers than when they were sober, much like the boozers. You seem to have studied the botany in detail. Are you a member of the Hemp Society?

originally posted by: pteridine
a reply to: Grimpachi just about those who smoke it and hop into a car believing that their good feeling makes them better drivers than when they were sober, much like the boozers.

In Colorado, smokin' and driving will get you a DUI, just like alcohol, and I don't think people know this.

a reply to: tinker9917

I just asked for you to show how it can all be traced back to legalization.
All I have gotten is anecdotal and that anecdotal is not really problems.

Not having homes to sell is a good thing, the housing market needs to rebound, if legal weed gets people to move to colorado it is a good thing.
Do you see the state complaining about the issue?

We use to call entire housing tracks out here in CA foreclosure forest cause it seemed like every other house had a for sale sign with no one in it.

I still don't get how you can attribute lack of jobs to the legalization.
Massive new industry equals new jobs.

Do you have sources other then "I live here and you don't"?

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: pteridine

What they don't mention is that it is tough to tell the difference when growing the other brand in with the hemp. I wonder what their subtle plan is.

It is actually pretty easy, you get hemp from male plants.
They are also rather easy to tell apart, especially once they have grown.

If 3% increase in electricity and banks won't take your money is the worst you can come up with, pretty sure that is not a failed experiment.

MJ may be worse than alcohol simply because the impairment may be less obvious to the casual observer

Just no...

The electricity increase and banking problems were only examples of 'unintended consequences.' No one thought of either before they manifested themselves. What other consequences have yet to appear? We'll have to wait and see. Maybe other states are smart enough to watch for a while so they can prepare for them.

One useful consequence is that all those industrial warehouses that emptied in 2008 are being used once again and are powered up at 200w/sqft. Transformer sales are on the rise for substations. Waters is selling batch supercritical extractors to get the THC out of scrap. Suitcase and duffel bag sales are up for all that cash that's being carried around. Colorado tourism has lit up the tax receipts.

Just no? Just yes.... we can go around on this one for a while. I just heard that there may be a field test kit for marijuana intoxication which may alleviate the problem.

a reply to: pteridine

Your friends are wrong.

You would never grow them anywhere near each other.

originally posted by: tinker9917

originally posted by: pteridine
a reply to: Grimpachi just about those who smoke it and hop into a car believing that their good feeling makes them better drivers than when they were sober, much like the boozers.

In Colorado, smokin' and driving will get you a DUI, just like alcohol, and I don't think people know this.

That was a national news item.

I am just taken aback by all of the logical and final support people have outpoured in this thread that otherwise until now I have witnessed be absent, almost believing people were too intimidated to voice their true concerns on pot use.

This gives new hope for people, we are all not dopers or intimidated by the doper trend. Thank you all for your input it is really eye opening.

And yes they lose, the dopers are losers in the big picture. Nobody wants their child to grow up to be a doper no matter how much propaganda bull# is put forward.

a reply to: Sremmos80

They are not my friends. They are rather shallow people who say 'dude' a lot, fist bump each other, and wear backwards baseball caps. They have tattoos they call 'body art' because they are truly individuals when it comes to personal decoration. They mainly work whatever jobs come along and 'partay' as often as possible. THC is a favorite but booze and other assorted meds are also used. Their plans may not be practical, but they do have plans. Possibly, they are unhappy with their lives but all the drugs make them feel better about things so they take them.

originally posted by: pteridine
a reply to: Grimpachi Your comment may be true but there are several I know who support the Hemp Society that have told me that when everyone is growing hemp, it will be easier to grow special hemp. I have no real concern about cannabis, just about those who smoke it and hop into a car believing that their good feeling makes them better drivers than when they were sober, much like the boozers. You seem to have studied the botany in detail. Are you a member of the Hemp Society?

I am not part of the hemp society and don't smoke anything stronger than a cigaret. In fact, the only drug I partake is alcohol, but only on occasion.

I am just one of those people who use a computer for more than just spreading BS on forums and likes to actually know what he is talking about. You should try it sometime.

Instead of trying to recollect what the people from the hemp society are saying you could find some factual information.

As far as driving while intoxicated that would be illegal no matter what the substance is and the people who think different will eventually pay a price.

My first post.

First of all Mr TinMan...How old are you? Just curious

I agree that in most places of work, cannabis use should be prohibited unless you have a serious medical condition BUT
your misconceptions about cannabis are just that...misconceptions
and it's really easy for you to be "ignorant" while portraying to be one that "denies ignorance"

"Dopers need to admit they have a problem"

Seriously, who are you to make such claims?

"before they end up in skid row"



America's system is why so many people end up homeless...Yes there's a lot of homeless people who ended up that way because of drugs ( and not cannabis, I promise you that )

Yes, cannabis can be abused if you are (IRRESPONSIBLE) , just like with anything else that you can find in your local pharmacy

Cannabis saved LIVES brother, and they have woken up plenty of people.

You do NOT have any position to make such judgements and every single one of your posts should include an "IMO"

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: TinfoilTP

If Potheads go to Colorado to get their fix, what do you call people who frequent Starbucks?

Caffeine is a drug too, those who frequent starbucks and pay way too much for a cup of coffee with some flAIR are very much addicts too.

I can assure you my aim is much straighter with cannabis than it is with caffeine.

Why not demonize caffeine too?

Yeah, I am quoting myself.

It is all about work ethic and self discipline. I know of many 'stoners' who are in the closet about their recreational activities because of the false perception many have about the plant and the effects it has on one's aptitude.

This false perception is the work of almost of a century of propaganda and disinformation.

originally posted by: Srrta22
My first post.

First of all Mr TinMan...How old are you? Just curious

You misconceptions about cannabis are just that...misconceptions
and it's really easy for you to be "ignorant" while portraying to be one that "denies ignorance"

"Dopers need to admit they have a problem"

Seriously, who are you to make such claims?

"before they end up in skid row"

America's system is why so many people end up homeless...Yes there's a lot of homeless people who ended up that way because of drugs ( and not cannabis, I promise you that )

Yes, cannabis can be abused if you are (IRRESPONSIBLE) , just like with anything else that you can find in your local pharmacy

Cannabis saved LIVES brother, and they have woken up plenty of people.

You do NOT have any position to make such judgements and every single one of your posts should include an "IMO"

I can almost guarantee I am "older" than you.
Other than that, my anonymous status stays intact.

cannibas should be administered like an over the counter drug, if at all. Getting widespread free for all use has proven to be too much for the users, or I should say abusers, too much for them to handle as this story shows.

Get the science down that it helps people with chronic pain, vets with shell shock, and any other real identifiable medical problem and administer it for them, the free willy nilly use will only hurt the beneficial effects it could potentially have for society.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Going by what you posted you logically feel the same way about alcohol right?

BTW what does alcohol treat besides a hangover?

a reply to: pteridine

How does it feel to be some much better then them?

I don't think they shared their views with you at all and you made it all up.

And if they really did tell you what you said, they know very little about the cultivation of the flower that people consume and hemp.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Going by what you posted you logically feel the same way about alcohol right?

BTW what does alcohol treat besides a hangover?

That is not the subject of this thread but let's extrapolate.
If you show up drunk for work regularly you will be summarily fired no matter how artistic you were when they hired you. Why is pot different?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Srrta22
My first post.

First of all Mr TinMan...How old are you? Just curious

You misconceptions about cannabis are just that...misconceptions
and it's really easy for you to be "ignorant" while portraying to be one that "denies ignorance"

"Dopers need to admit they have a problem"

Seriously, who are you to make such claims?

"before they end up in skid row"

America's system is why so many people end up homeless...Yes there's a lot of homeless people who ended up that way because of drugs ( and not cannabis, I promise you that )

Yes, cannabis can be abused if you are (IRRESPONSIBLE) , just like with anything else that you can find in your local pharmacy

Cannabis saved LIVES brother, and they have woken up plenty of people.

You do NOT have any position to make such judgements and every single one of your posts should include an "IMO"

I can almost guarantee I am "older" than you.
Other than that, my anonymous status stays intact.

cannibas should be administered like an over the counter drug, if at all. Getting widespread free for all use has proven to be too much for the users, or I should say abusers, too much for them to handle as this story shows.

Get the science down that it helps people with chronic pain, vets with shell shock, and any other real identifiable medical problem and administer it for them, the free willy nilly use will only hurt the beneficial effects it could potentially have for society.

I am 24 years old. I guarantee you are a bit older then me... I brought up your age because of the propaganda involved during your lifetime about weed, and it is completely wrong.

I agree with you that a lot of people abuse it to get high, which I am against, but even then it does not impact how one lives their life...Only their character determines that which is why I called you judgmental..

There are thousands of CEOs and business owners who use cannabis and they will agree, that getting blasted during work is unacceptable...You can ingest a little bit, be functional and your work would improve dramatically.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Going by what you posted you logically feel the same way about alcohol right?

BTW what does alcohol treat besides a hangover?

That is not the subject of this thread but let's extrapolate.
If you show up drunk for work regularly you will be summarily fired no matter how artistic you were when they hired you. Why is pot different?

Granted, but let me ask you a question, is nicotine not a drug?

But most places permit the use of cigarette breaks, right? Do you agree that they also should be banned during working hours?