The religion of peace strikes again!

The problem is that this ugly version of Islam ( Salafi-Wahhabism-Takfiri) is a distortion of Islam and unfortunately the Saudis have been exporting this poison through their oil money.


It is a simplistic, sectarian medieval monstrosity given to ordinary people along with the radicalism of a madman like a Bin Laden and other Imams within Wahhabi Islam that has created this foul sectarian madness


A takfiri (Arabic: تكفيري‎ takfīrī) is a Muslim who accuses another Muslim (or an adherent of another Abrahamic faith) of apostasy. The accusation itself is called takfir, derived from the word kafir (infidel), and is described as when "one who is, or claims to be, a Muslim is declared impure."https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Takfiri

originally posted by: here4this
a reply to: ATF1886

When is the last time that "radical Christians ' put thousands to death ? Crusades , maybe?

GWB said god told him to go into Iraq

I know he is not a spokes person for Christianity but he was in charge

I'm pretty sure I saw on ATS years ago Christian symbols on sniper rifles being used over there

Muslims rightly or wrongly see America and the UK as Christian nations when they attack their countries

a reply to: Willtell

Correction. Its origin isn't wahhabism nor did it start a couple of centuries ago. They always existed. At the time they were known as the khawarij. The Saudi Royals made it mainstream and started exporting it when they were installed by the British Empire and the US government started protecting their oil fields in return for the petrodollar.

ISIS or any of these nutcasses are not something new. They always existed.

a reply to: Boeing777
Sorry , but the KKK is not and never was a "Christian organization" It was purely political and ideological . Most ex-KKK members I know (wait for it and believe it or not) have rebuked their old lives and some are even ministers now .

a reply to: here4this

The use of the KKK as an example, is to show what could be done when the majority bans together to attack something evil.

a reply to: here4this

If you want to take that stance, you better be ready to do the same for the groups in ME that claim to be muslim.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: here4this
a reply to: ATF1886

When is the last time that "radical Christians ' put thousands to death ? Crusades , maybe?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I am sorry , I dont get the relation between the "Radical Christians" and the difficult choice of using a new made WMD or letting the war drag on much longer and costing thousands if not millions of lives .Please enlighten me , being a student of history and all.....

a reply to: Boeing777

Read the post closer. And the analogy of the GW and Westboro point.

Radical sects are always in religions but when they align with political power, as it occurred in Saudi, you get what we have today


THERFORE IT DID START WITH WAHHABISM

These type of story's only fuel the fire of division

Makes we wonder how gullible people are and how manipulative those writing such stories are.
I am beginning think there is some sort of agenda here

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: Kapusta

I'll do a couple from memory.

Athens airport attack. Do you support terrorist attacks against innocent people in an airport because of a political idea?


Achille Lauro. This is semi-related again politically motivated they pushed an old man in a wheelchair off a cruise ship . Do you support that?

No I want a list , you said you could provide a list so provide it .

Who on earth would support a terrorism attack on anyone ? Muslim or not ! who ever supports these actions are evil! no doubt ! .

do you support 9/11 political attack ?

of course not right ! Why would i ?

a reply to: Kapusta

I'm tired of playing this game with you.

First wave (1968 to 1980):
Many countries - Palestinian terror 1968 on.

Italy - El Al Flight 426 1968.
Greece - El Al Flight 253 1968.
Switzerland - El Al Flight 432 1969.
Germany - Frankfurt 1969.
UK - Marks and Spencer 1969.
Italy - TWA Flight 840 1969.
UK - Zim shipping 1969.
Belgium - El Al, Brussels 1969.
Greece - El Al, Athens 1969.
Germany - Munich airport 1970.
Switzerland - Swissair Flight 330 1970.
Various countries - Dawson's Field hijackings 1970.
Austria - Sabena Flight 571 1972.
Germany - Munich Olympics 1972.
UK - Israeli embassy 1972.
USA - letter bomb 1972.
USA - Hamaas Khaalis 1973.
USA - Stephen Gilroy 1973.
USA - Yosef Alon 1973.
Greece - El Al, Athens 1973.
Holland - Japan Air Lines Flight 404 1973.
Greece - Athens airport 1973.
Austria - train hostages 1973.
Italy - Pan Am Flight 110 1973.
UK - Teddy Sieff 1973.
USA - Zebra killings 1973-74.
UK - London bank 1974.
Greece - TWA Flight 841 1974.
France - Paris airport 1975.
Austria - OPEC 1975.
Greece - Entebbe hijacking 1976.
USA - Hanafi Siege 1977.
Spain - Lufthansa Flight 181 1977.
Various countries - poisoned oranges 1978.
France - Paris airport 1978.
UK - London 1978.
Many countries - Iranian terror 1979 on.
France - Paris bombs 1979.
Belgium - Brussels airport 1979.
Austria - Vienna synagogue 1979.
Spain - Max Mazin 1980.
UK - Mohamed Mustafa Ramadan 1980.
Belgium - Yosef Halachi 1980.
Belgium - Antwerp 1980.
Italy - Bologna bombing 1980.
France - Paris synagogue 1980.
Under Reagan (1980 to 1988):
Italy - Rome airport 1981.
Austria - Heinz Nittel 1981.
Italy - El Al office 1981.
Greece - travel agency 1981.
Italy - Rome airport 1981.
Austria - Israeli embassy 1981.
Austria - Vienna synagogue 1981.
Italy - Ostia 1981.
Belgium - Antwerp synagogue 1981.
France - Christian Chapman 1981.
Germany - Berlin restaurant 1982.
France - Charles Ray 1982.
Italy - El Al office 1982.
France - Israeli embassy 1982.
Austria - French embassy 1982.
UK - Israeli ambassador 1982.
France - Paris restaurant 1982.
Japan - Pan Am Flight 830 1982.
France - Israeli Embassy 1982.
Belgium - Brussels synagogue 1982.
Italy - Rome synagogue 1982.
USA - Daniel Jordan 1982.
Australia - Sydney bombs 1982.
USA - Hotel Rajneesh bombing 1983.
USA - Ahmadi attacks 1983.
France - Paris restaurant 1983.
UK - London 1983.
France - TGV bombing 1983.
Greece - Kenneth Whitty 1984.
UK - Yvonne Fletcher 1984.
France - Marks and Spencer 1985.
France - Jewish film festival 1985.
Spain - Torrejon 1985.
Greece - TWA Flight 847 1985.
Germany - Frankfurt Airport 1985.
Spain - Madrid 1985.
Denmark - Copenhagen synagogue 1985.
Germany - Rhein-Main Air Base 1985.
Greece - hotel attack 1985.
Italy - Rome 1985.
Argentina - Jewish kindergarten 1985.
Greece - EgyptAir Flight 648 1985.
Germany - Frankfurt 1985.
France - Paris 1985.
Italy and Austria - Rome and Vienna 1985.
France - Paris bombings 1986.
France - TGV bombing 1986.
France - Paris bombing 1986.
Italy - TWA Flight 840 1986.
Germany - West Berlin 1986.
UK - BA office 1986.
France - Kenneth Marston 1986.
France - Paris bombings 1986.
Germany - U.S. Tempelhof Air Base 1986.
Belgium - Antwerp synagogue 1986.
Switzerland - Air Afrique hijack 1987.
Italy - poisoned grapefruit 1988.
Greece - City of Poros 1988.
UK - Lockerbie 1988.
Under Bush (1988 to 1992):
Many countries - Salman Rushdie 1989 on.
USA - Rushdie bookshops 1989.
USA - Riverdale Press 1989.
Italy - Rushdie bookshops 1989.
Belgium - Rushdie killings 1989.
UK - Rushdie bookshops 1989.
Norway - Rushdie bookshops 1989.
UK - Rushdie bookshops 1989.
France - Rushdie publisher 1989.
Belgium - Joseph Wybran 1989.
USA - Rashad Khalifa 1990.
Switzerland - Kazem Radjavi 1990.
USA - Meir Kahane 1990.
Australia - Makin Morcos 1991.
Italy - Ettore Capriolo 1991.
Japan - Hitoshi Igarashi 1991.
Hungary - Budapest 1991.
Argentina - Israeli embassy 1992.

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