Does Anyone Actually hate Christians??

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Logarock

However I do understand that in this discussion just postulating in a christian frame is taken as condemnation.

Do some Christians not say that ONLY CHRISTIANS will have an afterlife?
If that's not what you think, then I have misinterpreted your beliefs for a long time.

I don't think "being a Christian" is a prerequisite for an afterlife, a soul, or continuation as energy/matter in the universe in some form or another.

Close Buzzy, but depending on the sect of Christianity, they believe everyone will have an afterlife. The question is, where each person will spend it. Eternal death or eternal life. "Hell" or heaven.

a reply to: Klassified

The question is, where each person will spend it. Eternal death or eternal life. "Hell" or heaven.

Yeah.

I just don't think that is a thing. Like my daughter (26-years old) says, "Is that really a thing?"

No. Not a 'real' thing. It's the attitude of some, though, for sure. Rubs me the wrong way.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
As it should, and would, any thinking person.

a reply to: Klassified

As it should, and would, any thinking person.

Yup.

Thanks, Klass.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Wow. I think this thread has finally run its course. Who knew it would be a marathon?

a reply to: Klassified

45 pages is quite the marathon!!!



Guess I oughta shut up about now.
Sometimes I get, well - determined........

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Klassified

45 pages is quite the marathon!!!

Guess I oughta shut up about now.
Sometimes I get, well - determined........

As y'all were talking about earlier. I think where modern Christianity goes wrong is the (fairly recent) concept of hell. It's the "my god is gonna take your soul and torment it for all eternity, unless you convert" part that turns people off and sometimes against Christianity.

That stuff never would have flew in anchient times. Imagain if some missionary showed up in a Viking camp and told them his god was gonna kidnap them after death and torture them. He would be killed before he got off his horse....


I will never understand why Christians think telling people they will burn in hell, isn't derogatory. I understand from their pov it's neither right or wrong. It's just the truth. But it sounds horribly offensive to anyone from another/no religion.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Klassified

45 pages is quite the marathon!!!

Guess I oughta shut up about now.
Sometimes I get, well - determined........

Thanks to everyone who participated!! This is prob my first thread that lasted 45 pages... Definately the first that got to 45 in a weekish!!!

a reply to: Klassified

Wow. I think this thread has finally run its course. Who knew it would be a marathon?

Unless posters like grandma and seamrog decide to revive this thread? If they do then we will be in for another run. (lol I typed fun then corrected myself).

Does Anyone Actually hate Christians??

No .

a reply to: Entreri06

I will never understand why Christians think telling people they will burn in hell, isn't derogatory. I understand from their pov it's neither right or wrong. It's just the truth. But it sounds horribly offensive to anyone from another/no religion.

And they think that we hate them because of that. What we hate is erroneous and judgmental beliefs. From our pov they have been brainwashed and follow the Bible directives.

And before anyone yell at me this doesn't apply to many Christians.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Entreri06

I will never understand why Christians think telling people they will burn in hell, isn't derogatory. I understand from their pov it's neither right or wrong. It's just the truth. But it sounds horribly offensive to anyone from another/no religion.

And they think that we hate them because of that. What we hate is erroneous and judgmental beliefs. From our pov they have been brainwashed and follow the Bible directives.

And before anyone yell at me this doesn't apply to many Christians.

I don't know..... Don't most Christians believe nonbelievers will burn in hell?

a reply to: Entreri06

Depends. Some Christians don't believe that. Some simply follow Jesus Christ and don't judge. Some think sinners will cease to exist after death. Too many theologies and beliefs to discuss here.

my view is you ask and indicate your affirmative choice. if you don't ask and indicate your affirmative choice, the default position is you don't want the option. the records of your memory are scanned, to see if you were offered the option, first. if you didn't want that option, then you don't get that option. it's a free will thing.

a reply to: Gryphon66

And it makes me think that one would WANT to be hated, because that would mean they are a TRUE Christian. If Jesus said it would happen that would mean that if they are hated then it must mean they are doing it right.

I love my Christian friends ... their values are often also the same as my own
They do not preach but do express their beliefs as I do mine

As for those Christians who preach down ... I do not hate them but will ignore them as do my Christian friends

originally posted by: Ellie Sagan
a reply to: Gryphon66

And it makes me think that one would WANT to be hated, because that would mean they are a TRUE Christian. If Jesus said it would happen that would mean that if they are hated then it must mean they are doing it right.

Yeah, that's it. We love being reviled by the world, and the subject of constant mockery. It feels great. We seek it out because "Jesus said so"...

originally posted by: DeadSeraph

originally posted by: Ellie Sagan
a reply to: Gryphon66

And it makes me think that one would WANT to be hated, because that would mean they are a TRUE Christian. If Jesus said it would happen that would mean that if they are hated then it must mean they are doing it right.

Yeah, that's it. We love being reviled by the world, and the subject of constant mockery. It feels great. We seek it out because "Jesus said so"...

That's what a Christian persecution complex is.

originally posted by: DeadSeraph

originally posted by: Ellie Sagan
a reply to: Gryphon66

And it makes me think that one would WANT to be hated, because that would mean they are a TRUE Christian. If Jesus said it would happen that would mean that if they are hated then it must mean they are doing it right.

Yeah, that's it. We love being reviled by the world, and the subject of constant mockery. It feels great. We seek it out because "Jesus said so"...

someone accurately predicted that the brick would fall and tricked millions into believing it was a sign of fortune. not surprisingly, those millions were swiftly depleted when many forgot to move out of the way.

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Logarock

However I do understand that in this discussion just postulating in a christian frame is taken as condemnation.

Do some Christians not say that ONLY CHRISTIANS will have an afterlife?
If that's not what you think, then I have misinterpreted your beliefs for a long time.

I don't think "being a Christian" is a prerequisite for an afterlife, a soul, or continuation as energy/matter in the universe in some form or another.

Close Buzzy, but depending on the sect of Christianity, they believe everyone will have an afterlife. The question is, where each person will spend it. Eternal death or eternal life. "Hell" or heaven.

Not eternal death.... Eternal torment. Christianity doesn't just believe they get a paradise in the afterlife. They also believe anyone who disagrees with them , will have there soul taken prisoner and tortured for all eternity.


So how is the Christian god, good?!? I'm confused......