Boston bombers’ mom: US ‘will pay for my sons’

a reply to: Darkblade71

not my mom or most of the people i know mom's. hell i know people with kids that have drove them to the jail house and turned them in.

now love, that's different, my mom loves me to death, but if i screwed up, or she even suspected me of doing something like the bombing. if she couldn't haul me in, she would find someone who could after she found out if i did it or not and if i did do it, she'd beat me about my head and shoulders first.

a reply to: junglimogli

if you read my op and a couple of posts down saw the next i posted the questions of what she might have planed, or who she might know.

fact is if you look at all of her statements before the trail and this one you can't help but wonder as ketsuko put it.

My ... however did these nice young men get radicalized?

i suspect a whole lot of great satan hating going on in that home before she left.

Remember too, we've seen plenty of interviews on TV of mothers grieving over guilty sons. The mothers of the school shootings, for example. They typically say something like they've lost a child too, they are grieving too, and they are so sorry their son has caused so much pain and mayhem. They try their best to make some kind of apology to the grieving parents. Sometimes I cry when I hear them.

Until this, they don't tell them they will all burn in hell. But, everybody has their own way of grieving. I personally find the comment offensive and out of line, but nonetheless harmless, and she has the right to say it.

My take, anyway.

I have a question, why was Boston selected rather than some other place?

Was there something that somebody would have wanted to swing an opinion on and did an opinion or policy change after?

a reply to: bullcat

the Boston Marathon is a pretty big event, it was close and it would have made a great statement for jihadists.
people come from all over the world to run in it.

a reply to: Darkblade71

Because sometimes its impossible to see the trees while standing in the middle of the forest.

When a news articles first opening line is

"She’s just as twisted as he is."

It is hardly unbiased.

originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: AdamuBureido

The backpack that housed the bomb appears to have the same white and black straps that Tsarnaev's backpack has in the picture.

The backpack that the man on the right of the meme is carrying appears to only have black straps.

funny how you dismiss it [erroneously at that] as a meme, you're focusing so hard on the INSIDE of the straps, that you're FAILING UTTERLY to see that it's a black backpack, you're seeing a fallen leaf and missing THE ENTIRE FOREST.
hopefully your job as a poloice officer is strictly internet patrol as your now demonstrable ability to observe, analyze, and conclude from data shows you are a danger on the street.

all that effort, to keep believing a lie...

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Actually, she's doing no worse than any over zealous preacher would do to someone who is getting up to mischief...she's basically saying that they will get their 'payment' in hell...aka the afterlife..aka oh, you get the idea.

originally posted by: AnAbsoluteCreation


1. The FBI had been meeting with the Chetchyn brothers for two years prior to the bombing. If they pulled it off under their nose, the FBI are certainly lacking. Isn't it odd that every tragedy the FBI seems to have dropped the ball?

Is this a verifiable fact? Sounds like the FBI was on to something then, but are you suggesting they should have been under surveillance that whole time? Persons of interest does not equal surveillance, otherwise the FBI better triple their budget and hire a 100,000 more agents.

Conclusion: Pure speculation

2. The brothers screamed they didn't do it on film during the shootout asking cops to stop shooting.

They carjacked and kidnapped the apps designer, Dun Meng, here is his account of what they told him

“He asked me, ‘Do you know about the Boston Marathon explosion?’ I said, ‘Yes, I know,’ ” Mr. Meng said of his initial conversation with Tamerlan. “He said, ‘I did it, and I just killed a policeman in Cambridge.’ ”

Conclusion: I'm sure they would say all kinds of things as bullets were flying to save their asses. You have 19 points here and never once mention Mr. Meng, is he one of your 1000s of people involved in this false flag, or just doesn't fit your conspiracy very well as a point in your interest...lol

Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

3. The message in the boat wasn't revealed until a month after his capture. And when you look at the pictures of the boat, where he was located, there is no sign written in the boat the night of his capture. Authorities first claimed he had a pen on him. But when it began a debate about pen not writing on fiberglass, the narrative as changed to marker.

1. His Blood after he wrote it.
2. His hand writing
3. Bullet holes after it was written
4. He doesn't deny writing it.

This would be so damn easy for his defense team to prove this was not his, if it wasn't, and it would be extreme stupidity to fake due to that fact.



Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

4. He pleaded not guilty. Why would he plea not guilty if he knows he wrote a message on the boat saying he did it. Moreover, if he was a radical extremist, why deny what you did? That would be a first for radical Islam.

Not guilty plea is normal, very normal....

Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

5. All signs point to Tsarvean being deaf after the surguries. They Claim he is completely deaf in one ear, but I suspect he was made to be deaf in both. Pictures from hospital bed resemble scars from ear drum surgery. It explains why he never talks to his attorney in court, he just nods to her.

Ok so......Not sure your point on this one even if it was true...

Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

6. Reporters said he had a heavy Russian accent when repeating not guilty to all counts (the attorney tried to answer for him but the judge wanted him to speak). Previous personal recordings you can hear his flawless English accent. He has no Russian accent. This also lends to the theory that he can't hear himself when he speaks which makes his voice come out muffled (or Russian sounding). Also explains why he didn't react when his attorney said he was guilty of doing the crimes in the beginning of case (remember, he claims he is not guilty).

Ok so......Not sure your point on this one even if it was true... Remember Mr. Meng? Kind of a sticky point I'll come back to.

Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

7. There was a training session simulating a bomb explosion reported to be exactly across the street (library) from where the real bomb went off. Bomb sniffing dogs were rampant. (Google Moulage training). What's the odds that a training simulated explosion happened at the same place where a real explosion took place? Seems awful similar to 9/11 and the Norad training.

Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

8. The craft soldiers there were wearing backpacks with same patch that the exploded backpack had on it. Afterwards, the same craft soldier is photographed without his backpack. And none of those soldiers assisted with the victims of the bombings.

Are you suggesting they did it, stayed at the scene, wore like clothing to not blend in, and to be noticed after doing it....lol

Conclusion: Pure speculation

9. The photo of Tsarvaen without his backpack leaving the area has obvious signs of photoshopping. The bricks in the building behind him are distorted.

He didn't have his backpack, where did it go then?

Conclusion: Pure speculation

10. The older brother was pictured laying down on his stomach surrendering in the streets the night of the alleged shootout. Then photographed standing in police custody naked. How did he then die that gruesome death?

I would think it would be very easy to determine who they strip naked if there is a real need to do so. If it wasn't a suspect that turned out to not be Tamerlan, but Tamerlan himself this would be very easy to continue forward from pure speculation.

Lets say it was him and the police killed him in custody, still doesn't suggest that he wasn't the bomber. They didn't kill his brother, why kill him?

Conclusion: Pure speculation

11. Linda (interviews on radio) was an eye witness who claimed she saw the police hit the older brother with their car and then They got out and shot the older brother multiple times after running over him. She claims there's no way that guy was not dead at the scene. She was never interviewed again and the kid Andrew kritzenberg who was 100 yards further than Linda was the main witness.

Same as No 11

12. FBI shot and killed Tsarvaen's friend in Florida while they're trying to get him to sign a confession. First reports said he had a pipe and another report claims he lunged for a samurai sword.

This was for a different case, so what is your point on this one that deals with Boston?

A triple murder was committed in Waltham, Massachusetts, on the evening of September 11, 2011.[9][21] Three men, Brendan Mess, Erik Weissman, and Raphael Teken, were murdered in Mess's apartment. All had their throats slit from ear to ear, with such great force that they were nearly decapitated. Illegal marijuana worth thousands of dollars was left covering their bodies, and $5,000 was left at the scene. The local district attorney said that it appeared that the killer and the victims knew each other, and that the murders were not random.

Conclusion: Pure speculation and grabbing anything you can out of thin air.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

My mom would.
She might tell me in private that I was stupid, but other than that, due to how she was raised, she would defend me even if I told her I did something. I know lots of moms like that.
Maybe it is just in how someone was raised.

I am not saying it is ok, just that a lot of moms are like that.

a reply to: tadaman

You are wrong in your statement to me about bringing facts about them being innocent!

I never once said they didn't do it....Not once! I said, could they be innocent? YES!! Could they be guilty? YES!! But my point was, everything you were backing up your theory of them being guilty (yes I called it a theory because the case is filled with holes and garbage video) with is all based off of the OS...

I am not doubting some is true, I am not even doubting that all may be true....All I am saying is in your arguments with smokingman, you are backing up your claims with OS articles and crap video....There was another poster on page 10 (zazzafrazz) that had pictures of the backpack and the backpack he had was not the one with the bomb in it....You need to search for things you believe based off of the OS, if you just believe it based on what you read in the MSM, I feel sorry for that being your reasoning for opinion...That's it, nothing more! I am not discrediting anything you said, not doubting the "facts" just telling you to dig deeper on something you have such a strong opinion on...All based off of the OS

originally posted by: AnAbsoluteCreation

13. The scene of the bombing chaos was full of odd interactions with the wounded. If you google Moulage training, and amputee actors, they are prominent actors for military training. The scene resembled a staged scene. Some of the people don't do anything until they are queued.

After two years, extremely easy to follow-up on every case of injury or death that makes this point too stupid to suggest now.

Conclusion: Pure speculation, and grabbing anything out of thin air.

14. Authorities revoke the brothers parents visas so they can't come to the trial.

Good....

15. Authorities apparently interrogated Tsarvaen in the hospital and got a written confession but that confession never materialized. They said he claimed he was inspired by al Qaida and wanted america to pay. That's right, another lie, there was no bedside written confession. It was proven to be non existent. Another lie that helped shape public opinion. Then a month later the boat message mysteriously manifests.

Conclusion: Pure speculation, and grabbing anything out of thin air. Remember Mr. Meng again...

Until it is proven that he is one of (are we up to 100,000 now) people involved in creating this false flag he is extremely credible.

16. There was no visible neck injury to Tsarvaen when he exited the boat. In fact, he got out easily on his own accord. But right after an ATF agent quickly puts something over his neck, effectively hiding it.
17. Authorities came out almost immediately talking about a video showing Tsarvaen setting his backpack down by the kid and then leaving. The governor said he saw it on the news and then Recanted seeing it because that video actually never existed. All these immediate lies are what helped shape public opinion.
18. And finally, the backpack that Tsarvaen was wearing at the marathon was found by police in his apartment after the bombings.

Backpack, backpack, backpack... speculation, speculation, speculation

I'm surprised they didn't find 5 like backpacks in his apartment since they were using them for bombs. One would think if they wanted to do more of these they would have more backpacks....just saying

19. Also, The mit campus shooting police were originally looking for two different people as suspects of the campus shooting.

Yep, most likely very true, so what is your point on this one too? It took time to connect the bombings to this...

Bottom line is you speculate all over the place and now after two years most of your speculations would have been easily provable with this time, but they are all still in the speculation mode, never advancing from your initial points of view.

As example: The whole actors instead of victims... really? Even after two years now?

Lastly, if this was a false flag what was the purpose of it? Nothing really materialized since it was a rather small event when we look at world events. This would of been a totally useless false flag if it was one....

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Char-Lee

It was not challenged BY THE ONES WHO DID IT. They wanted people to know they did it.

Why would you need to?

Yeah I know, why wouldn't the kid say he didn't do it? Oh I don't know, maybe the "meeting" he had the day after where, from what I understand he was beaten by cops in a room....Coerced confession much? They probably threatened everything in his life if he didn't say he did it! I am not saying he didn't, but I am saying that if you believe the OS I feel sorry for you letting them spoon feed information into your head! There is no evidence one way or another, and I am not saying one way or another, but there is plenty of reason for this kid to admit he did it...Even if he didn't!

empirenews.net...

May 22, 2013: An FBI agent in Orlando, Florida, fatally shoots Ibragim Todashev, a friend of Tamerlan's, after he lunges at law enforcement officials questioning him about the Waltham killings. Officials say that before he died, he had agreed to give a statement about his involvement.

July 10, 2013: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev pleads not guilty to 30 federal charges.

abcnews.go.com...

Don't just believe everything spoon fed to you...Please!

some of those posting vitriol here, and spraying venom, in the hope of coating the tsarnaevs and anyone who questions the official narrative are doing the spoon feeding, ladling and stirring the pot...
of course, 95% are just parroting screaming: LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!, I'M FOR SALE MASTERS! [see video]

a reply to: thesmokingman

Since you are so convinced they did not do this. I would like to ask you who you think did do it and why?

just to see how far down the rabbit hole you are..

originally posted by: bullcat
When a news articles first opening line is

"She’s just as twisted as he is."

It is hardly unbiased.

well here is a search page that lists over 3 million hits that says the same thing with out the
"She’s just as twisted as he is." i only checked a few on the first two pages, some are reprints of the NYPOST others are not.
Boston bombers’ mom: US ‘will pay for my sons

as a matter of fact here is one with her whole statement. but of course you and others will frown on the source, being it's israeli. but hey there are many more to choose from, that report what she said.

Zubeidat Tsarnaeva sent the messages, many in all caps punctuated repeatedly with exclamation marks and sad emoticons, to Vocativ via WhatsApp in the hours after the verdict Wednesday. In the exclusive interview via the messaging app, she insisted her sons are innocent and said the United States “WILL PAY FOR MY SONS AND THE SONS OF ISLAM, PERMANENTLY!!!”
Boston Bomber’s Mother: My Son Is In “The Claws Of A Predator”

Boston Bomber’s Mother: My Son Is In “The Claws Of A Predator”

can't you come up with something that has meaning, other than some liberal tripe.

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
So the main problem is that it is also an official story.

Ok.

That does not negate the plethora of evidence. The backpack in question does not even have bearing, the pictures are inconclusive since they are of shards of cloth.

The video is not crap. It is clear as day that they are the ones who planted the bombs.

usually being skeptical is useful, but not if it blinds you to the facts and especially if it is used to defend the mass murder of innocents. This is not a parking violation or minor offence. These are declared terrorists. Considering the climate we live in and the very real danger of future terrorists springing up, one should be careful who they defend.

Either you are defending them or not. You can hold reservations, but ultimately you either think they are guilty based off available facts, or you do not.

Its not about winning an argument for me. These people represent a real and grave threat to my people. All people who join terrorists groups and carry out acts of violence start out listening to posts like the ones here that profess their innocence and justification.

It should be apparent that what is being argued here in favor of them is exactly the sort of propaganda that very real and very violent extremists use to gain new members.

I will also note that I have been getting very real threats of violence from a member now because of my activity here. Aparently I am not all that off in thinking that there are probably some dangerous people who are a threat to the public participating on these boards.

originally posted by: bullcat
When a news articles first opening line is

"She’s just as twisted as he is."

It is hardly unbiased.

tell me about it
but none here, dare call sheeple for what they are,
"for the sheep have sharp teeth" as Nietzsche pointed out
not that their sharp teeth, has ever saved them from being sheared,
or sent to the slaughterhouse,
or the glue factory...

a reply to: Xtrozero

I'm glad you went through all of them. I think I made it to #13 and figured...why bother. They are too blind to see reason.

a reply to: Xtrozero

what is sad is they only found one back pack and it was in the land fill. sympathizers can't even get that right.
his buddies Dias Kadyrbayev,Azamat Tazhayakov,and Robel Phillipos disposed of it.

now here is what those that read this are going to say is that it only had fireworks in it.

Less than four hours after the FBI released images of the two men it suspected of being the Boston marathon bombers, at the height of the frantic search for the perpetrators, Dias Kadyrbayev sent his college friend, the then still-at-large Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, a text message. He told his friend he'd seen the pictures on TV, and that one of the bombers looked just like him. "Lol", Tsarnaev replied in a return text. Then he added: "You better not text me" and "Come to my room and take whatever you want".
FBI accuse trio of dumping backpack from Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's dorm room

on a side note one of the three has been found guilty of impeding an investigation and conspiracy, the other two go on trail in September.

A jury has found Azamat Tazhayakov guilty of impeding an investigation and conspiracy after he removed a backpack from the dorm room of Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev friend found guilty of conspiracy charges

ungrateful sh@@s