Hello, I'm an NSA Insider, and wow, do I have a story to tell

originally posted by: StargateSG7

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: StargateSG7

14 inches of Solid Copper Plate walls, ceiling, floor
suspended on active suspension

ROFLMAO

A solid copper plate of dimensions 3m * 2.5m * 0.33m [ i used a fugure LESS than 14inches - cos easier to do the artithmetic ]

has a mass of 22 tons - and you need 5 of them to construct a room 3m * 3m - thats a quite small room

total mass 133 tons

that smells of utterly impractical batcrap

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It's a BIG DATA CENTRE --- They have the money....
and the engineering know-how to make it take the weight.
It's a similar setup as to what's underneath Cheyenne Mtn
on the big springs but since this is an ACTIVE SEISMIC ZONE
up here in Vancouver, the setup is on an ACTIVE-SUSPENSION
large piston-based system.

It's all about M-O-N-E-Y !
I've worked in and use the computing systems
in the facility and while they are protecting
high-speed financial trading systems and
large-scale predictive behaviour systems
22 tons is nothing! In fact, I think the total
engineered weight is more on the side of
180 tonnes! (its a big room!)

Not hard to do at all engineering wise!

180 tonnes is roughly 8 panels (at 22 tonnes per side).

That would make the room roughly 6m by 3m.

That's hardly a "big room".

a reply to: TerryDon79

It has 400 AMD S9150's in it so I would say
its a big enough room (actually its 7x5 metres)
and DEFINITELY BIGGER than my office!
The software running on it is worth
a fortune so they are willing to protect it!
The ceiling and floors have a combination
of copper plate and lead so here is the
room math:

1 ton = 2000 pounds

14 inches

7x5 meters area x 3 Metres feet high

21 square metres each on left and Right walls
15 square metres on front back end walls

floor and ceiling is 35 square meters each

total area is 142 square meters

14 inches thickness is 0.3556 metres

Density of Copper is 8.94 tons per cubic metre

so total cubic volume of the copper sheilding is
50.4952 Cubic metres is 451.427088 tons and then
add in the lead shielding and we are looking
at more than 500 tons.

I never questioned or calculated the 180 tons fact
but I DO KNOW the room is actually 7x5 metres
so I will ask what the true weight is since there
is also the concrete base and concrete outer shell
walls and the heavy steel pistons for the active room
suspension system. It could EASILY be as much as
650 tonnes which is NOT AN OUTLANDISH FEAT
engineering-wise, ESPECIALLY since we are
dug in on solid granite!

I actually did at one point in time measure
the doors to be 14 inches thick solid copper
so that part is correct!

I should also note that Copper is
a DUCTILE metal (i.e. soft and bendable)
so that on a technical basis the structure
would likely have to contain ANOTHER
high-tensile strength metal in order
to handle the weight of all that metal.
So in fact it really COULD NOT be solid
copper but rather more likely a solid
maraging steel with heavy copper plate
applied in order to really support 500+ tons
based upon my just-now-done calculations.
So basically the room is a giant bank vault
with added RFI/EMP/Electrical Isolation
qualities built-in.

Again not an outlandish engineering feat
since it does LOOK a bit like a bank vault
except with a bunch of racks and some
workstations in it.

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STILL one heck of a S-W-E-E-T computer systems setup though.....

a reply to: StargateSG7

Made a quick phone call and nope they were adamant
the total room weight is 180 tons but other details
were not clarified after I pointed out the weight
calculation discrepancy.

So I am going say it is constructed LIKE A BANK VAULT
which is a hollow core STEEL SHEEL (probably 2 inches)
with an insulating material filling the core (usually an
acoustic-suppression rubber-compound material!)
and then thick copper plates (probably one-inch thick)
bonded to the outer shell and some sort of anode/cathode
arangement to prevent bi-metallic (aka Galvanic) corrosion
between the steel and copper.

That would reduce the weight enough to meet
the 180 ton specification I was quoted.
Lead sheilding is ALSO probably hollow-core tiles
with LIKELY 1/4" sheet lead wrapped within
aluminum shell.

180 tons is the official word...so it CANNOT be solid copper!

Still 180 tons is a BIG WEIGHT to carry and that software
is obviously valuable enough that someone would go to
the great lengths of building a bank vault to protect it!
Total Cost probably on the order of 15 million US dollars
(minus the grid computer cost!)

I didn't pay for it but I DO GET TO USE IT once in a while!

This is all very interesting...

ok - so when it said " 14 inch solid copper walls - it really meant an entirely different backpeddled explaination

and you want us to take this wombat seriously ?

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
ok - so when it said " 14 inch solid copper walls - it really meant an entirely different backpeddled explaination

and you want us to take this wombat seriously ?

Exactly the reason I stopped replying to this thread. It's like someone saying they have an alien craft then they "make a phone call" and come back and say "oops! It's actually just a helicopter"

It's going to take forever to read through this entire thread but it's too interesting not to lol

August 18, 2016

After reading this article, I'm beginning to understand WHY the NSA doesn't publically say much, about anything at all. The agency probably knows who hacks into DNC, and even their own systems, but will not divulge it.

Link: www.businessinsider.com...