2015 Twilight year: 3th of 4 blood moons in easter & Good Friday at original Christ death date.

I have heard wierdness that where Christ went for 3 days while in the tomb is April 5, 2015.

So Easter bunny isn't the Messiah. Bummer, he always gives good treats.

a reply to: blackmetalmist

Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37"For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.…

Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1:7
He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority

No one but the Lord knows when He shall return, according to the Bible

a reply to: tRiP2BrAiN

Matthew 24: 32-33...

Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.

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We don't know the day or the hour but we can know the season.

originally posted by: tRiP2BrAiN
a reply to: blackmetalmist

Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37"For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.…

Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Acts 1:7
He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority

No one but the Lord knows when He shall return, according to the Bible

We might not know the hour or even the day. But maybe the signs, which we are told to look for, can show that it is coming soon? But yeah, not going to think the world will end any time soon...... but you never know, anything can happen

a reply to: FissionSurplus

The wise men weren't Jews so the Mosaic law wasn't followed by them. Also they weren't necessarily astrologers. Daniel prophesied while in Persia (likely the origin of the wise men) on when to expect Messiah (Dan. 9:24-27) The prophecy of Balaam (who was from Pethor which was near the border of Assyria and Persia) which mentioned the star out of Jacob (Numbers 24:17) was likely also known by the wise men. This type of observation of the stars is not condemned as astrology. The Astrology condemned in the bible is the false belief that the heavenly bodies exert an influence on life and divination in accordance with that belief. It is not the mere observation of signs in the heavens.

Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years. Genesis 1:14

a reply to: The angel of light

I would be interested to know if there are any predictions from you with regards to Israel and their building of homes on Palestinian homelands.

I would be interested to know if the sun turned to darkness.

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originally posted by: FissionSurplus
a reply to: LadyJae

The Three Wise Men who sought Jesus at his birth were astrologers. The bible often contradicts itself which is why I have a hard time with it in its current form.

These magi or magicians were not lead directly to Jesus. Actually if you read the account the star that appeared to them lead them to Herod in Jerusalem. Herod had heard about the birth of the "king of the Jews" and wanted to put that baby to death.

It is very possible the astrologers didn't even know about Jesus until they reached Jerusalem. We are not told either way. In any event when they heard about the birth of the "king of the Jews" and asked where he was Herod got agitated and called the astrologers to him.

They did NOT go to Jesus first. They were first contacted by Herod, and he wanted to know when the star appeared to these astrologers, that lead them to Jerusalem.

Now notice, Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Not Jerusalem, and the people had to tell the astrologers that according to prophecy the king of the Jews would be born in Bethlehem.

Why were they lead to Herod? Because Satan wanted to kill Jesus when he was still a baby, and he knew he could kill him through Herod.

And that is why Herod inquired when the star appeared, so he could ascertain how old Jesus was by then. Notice that it was a two year journey. We know this, because later, Herod, when he found out the astrologers had duped him, demanded all the children from the age of two years and younger to be murdered.

Now, Herod wanted to send the astrologers to Bethlehem, and then return to him to tell him where Jesus was, to put him to death. And the only reason the astrologers didn't return is because Jehovah's angel appeared to them and told them not to return to Herod, knowing Herod's evil designs against Jesus.

Then an angel had to tell Joseph to get up and flee with his young child and his wife into Egypt so Jesus would not be murdered.

The Christmas story of the three wise-men appearing to the baby Jesus at the night of his birth in the manger is false. It ISN'T EVEN in the Bible. And the account doesn't say there were "three." For all we know there could have been four, or five, or ten, or twenty. Who knows. And they were not lead to the manger, rather, after Jesus' birth, they were lead to Jerusalem, to king Herod, who wanted to murder Jesus, and then to Bethlehem, to Joseph's house, where the CHILD Jesus lived.

The Bible says that angels appeared to shepherds in the field tending their flocks to herald Christ's birth. It doesn't say God sent a star to astrologers in Persia to lead them to Jesus.

They were lead to Jerusalem, to Herod, and the journey took them about two years, after Jesus' birth. And they were told by the Jews that Jesus would be in Bethelem. The star was satanic, it was not from God, and God did not lead them to Jesus. But he did prevent them from returning to Herod, where the star lead them to.

There is no contradiction in the Bible about God condemning astrology, and Satan's guiding astrologers to Herod, to have Jesus put to death.



(Matthew 2:1-18) . . .After Jesus had been born in Beth′le·hem of Ju·de′a in the days of Herod the king, look! astrologers from the East came to Jerusalem, 2 saying: “Where is the one born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when we were in the East, and we have come to do obeisance to him.” 3 At hearing this, King Herod was agitated, and all Jerusalem with him. 4 On gathering together all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he inquired of them where the Christ was to be born. 5 They said to him: “In Beth′le·hem of Ju·de′a, for this is how it has been written through the prophet:

6 ‘And you, O Beth′le·hem of the land of Judah, are by no means the most insignificant city among the governors of Judah, for out of you will come a governing one, who will shepherd my people Israel.’” 7 Then Herod secretly summoned the astrologers and carefully ascertained from them the time of the star’s appearing. 8 When sending them to Beth′le·hem, he said: “Go make a careful search for the young child, and when you have found him, report back to me so that I too may go and do obeisance to him.” 9 After they had heard the king, they went their way, and look! the star they had seen when they were in the East went ahead of them until it came to a stop above where the young child was. 10 On seeing the star, they rejoiced with great joy. 11 And when they went into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and falling down, they did obeisance to him. They also opened their treasures and presented him with gifts—gold and frankincense and myrrh. 12 However, because they were given divine warning in a dream not to return to Herod, they departed for their country by another way.

13 After they had departed, look! Jehovah’s angel appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying: “Get up, take the young child and his mother and flee to Egypt, and stay there until I give you word, for Herod is about to search for the young child to kill him.” 14 So Joseph got up and by night took along the young child and the child’s mother and went into Egypt. 15 He stayed there until the death of Herod. This fulfilled what was spoken by Jehovah through his prophet, saying: “Out of Egypt I called my son.”

16 Then Herod, seeing that he had been outwitted by the astrologers, flew into a great rage, and he sent out and had all the boys in Beth′le·hem and in all its districts killed, from two years of age and under, according to the time that he had carefully ascertained from the astrologers. 17 Then was fulfilled what was spoken through Jeremiah the prophet, who said: 18 “A voice was heard in Ra′mah, weeping and much wailing. It was Rachel weeping for her children, and she was unwilling to take comfort, because they are no more.”

a reply to: iNobody

Dear iNobody,

I respectfully desagree, it is not necessarily satanic to find correlations in between events in the cosmos and what it is occurring here in the earth. As a matter of fact those correlations are a proof that there is indeed an intelligent design in the Universe, that there is something that give sense to all the creation.

The fact that people born on the same zodiac sign share a lot of common characteristics in personalty, character or biorhythms is something well known since ancient times, also that nations are correlated with certain constellations.

I think the point of view that try to demonize what ever is related with paranormality is sectarian, is fundamentalist and it is not at all the will of God, it is in more the fruit of the absolute power by whom use Religion as a political tool to main control over the people.

It is sad that History is plenty of terrible prosecutions against people that had special gifts or talents , including the ones of the Holy spirit, like mystics , seers or prophets, and even scientists that lived well ahead of their time by fanatics that are searching for sorcerers or witches in every corner, there has been too much obsession and even madness in such abuses of authority.

Giordano Bruno was burnt just because he was convinced that there was life in other planets, Marconi was sent to a psychiatric hospital when he said openly that was able to send telegrams without wires, Galileo was forced to retract when claimed that the earth was not the center of the Universe, Mitchel of Nostradamus was several times menaced by the Inquisition and well we all know that in Salem, Massachusetts an intrigue in beween neighbors that boosted the most notorious case of mass hysteria triggered an absurd witches hunting by fanatic Puritans.

There is nothing Satanic in the Star of Bethlehem, to the contrary is a symbol of the Majesty and infinite power of God that can use planetary conjunctions or supernovas to announce his salvation, in the same way that the death of Christ coincided with a powerful earthquake and a complete solar eclipse, as we know that the escape of he Hebrews from Egypt coincided with the collision of the tail of comet with the atmosphere of our planet.


thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: Josephus

Dear Josephus,

The Magi were indeed Astrologers of their time, and in that epoch there was no distinction in between Astrology and Astronomy.

Now, the sin is not to be able to interpret the signals in the sky to know what is happening in the earth, the sin is to believe the the stars are gods, and not part of the creation of the only truly God. So to understand the correlations in between Asters and what happen here on earth and with the people is not at all evil.

These wise men were enough intelligent to know that the stars were only instruments to show the works of God among men. The scriptures give faith of the devotion and deep respect that these seers showed to Jesus by bring three symbolic presents that were omens of his future mission in earth: Myrr ( symbol of battle against death), Incense ( symbol of Holyness and priesthood), Gold ( symbol of Royalty and Eternity).

Astrology is for many a naive science but until the time of Nostradamus was even part of regular medical practice, that was the time in which medicine was a holistic discipline, something that in the western civilization has almost disapear under the extreme materialism of the modern science, but in the eastern civilizations other is the story, Chinese, Japanese and Indian medicine have preserved the ancient knowledge that we are energy, not only matter, and many of our illnesses are blockages of the flow of that energy in our body.

It is not a coincidence that Mars approached the earth in one of its closest orbits with respect to ours by July to September of 1999, when Nostradamus predicted it was a signal of an incoming era of Terrorism wars around the world.

Mars is not a God of course but there is correlation in between his orbit and the times in which war is more intensive in our planet, that was very well known by ancient Assyrians, Greeks and Persians. You can call such correlation a synchronicity, or with any other name, but it exists and that is interesting.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: Wirral Bagpuss

Dear Wirral Bagpuss,

Let me begin my answer to you by mentioning that we are remembering this weekend the death of a Holy man, the greatest of all the times, that was sentenced to a brutal death with lies, false accusations and blasphemies by people that was convinced that they had the absolute truth about anything.

Ironically the worst of the charges against Jesus was not that he called himself the Son of God, as many think, after all that same title was used by many other Prophets before him, like Adam, David and all the kings of Israel.

In 2 Samuel 7:13-16
13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men. 15 But my love will never be taken away from him, as I took it away from Saul, whom I removed from before you. 16 Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever.' "

en.wikipedia.org...

it was precisely the accusation that he could be using satanic powers to heal people or to perform wonders and miracles in public the one that sent him to the execution. Christ was accused by his prosecutors of sorcery and that is what still in our times the majority of the Jewish people think about him, his prodigies and many supernatural signals.

That is the sad and crude reality of what it was perhaps the worst summary trial of all the ones of History. Jesus knew pefectly that he was already sentenced to death even before to enter in the palace of the Sanhedrin.

So He is perhaps the best example of what fanaticism and sectarianism can do when they are on control of a society, even a Saint can be martyred under such evil force.


Unfortunately their terrible unfair accusation against Jesus still prevails until our days, among other infamous attacks against him and his Holy Mother, something that is a Capital Sin, and for that reason I am not particularly optimistic with respect to the future of Israel as a country, in the sense we know it today. I think only the general sincere conversion of the Jewish people to Christ will erase the spot of sin that they are carrying on their backs since twenty centuries ago.

I am skeptical that such a contrition act will take effect at least at right now, since the Zionism has washed their brains to believe that what a very smart and Machiavellian international political intrigue has achieved is really the work of God. As you could see many of them are convinced that the Messiah is still to come and for the very first time!

They even exploit economically the Christian tourism to the Holy land, as well as collect donations to support the continuous flow of Jewish people from all the nations to their state, but no sign of conversion exist on them, even no apologize at all for the Assassination of Christ or the thousands of Christian martyrs that were also executed under similar charges along the first 4 centuries of the common era.

I pray regularly for the conversion of the Jews, that they can see at last the truth through the veil of fanaticism of their leaders that has hidden to them , and for the forgiveness of their sins, the ones that can gain divine mercy (
Unfortunately the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is not one of them) and their salvation by the way.

As an epilogue, let me point that again ironically It is precisely Joshua Bar Joseph, the Historic Jesus of Nazareth, who did more to spread the values of the Hebrew culture along the world in History, than anybody else, there is no other Jew more famous than him.

His first place is far distant from even other famous people of his same ethnic origin that have impacted also a lot the civilization, like Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trostsky, Karl Marx, Baruch Spinoza or even Christopher Columbus.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

Then explain why the Christmas story is false about the astrologers. Also explain why the star did not lead them to Bethlehem, but rather to Herod, whom God knew wanted to put his son to death?

You're saying God lead them to Herod knowing that would lead to the mass murder of all two-year-old boys and under in the district.

It is not fundamentalist, or flawed to deny God is the one that lead them to Herod, and thus to the mass murder of those children, and lead to his son having to flee for his life.

Where is the logic in that?

a reply to: iNobody

Dear iNobody,

There is well known phenomenon in Psychology that is called autosuggestion, and it affects a lot perception of the reality, in few words everything turns to be of the same color of the lens that we use to analyze or focus the world.

If we are in a so much negative vibration, with our mind thinking only in the dark side, in what ever is evil we are going to start to judge all around us from that perspective, we are only detecting the negativity that surround us, we are practically blind to all what is positive.

There is nothing in the Account of St Mathew that claims that the Star guided the Star directly the King Herod the Great. Read carefully his story and you are going to see the point.

St Mathew clearly says that they saw the star in the east and then once again in their way to Bethlehem, so it was clear that the star was not over Jerusalem when they arrived there. (and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was)

The star was a natural phenomenon, it was very visible in the countries to the east of the Anatolia peninsula, but it was not a continuous apparition, it was recurrent however, it had cycles of minor or major intensity in the sky.

When the Magi started to follow the star from the original country(ies) ( Yemen, Chaldea, Assyria, Persia, India?) the Star was in one if its climax, but when they arrived to Jerusalem the star suddenly disappeared and then they became lost, without more hints to track.

Nevertheless, a star like that for expert astronomers only could mean the birth a great King from the Jewish nation so they decided that the most logical place to look for a recently born Prince must the palace of the King Herod.

After their interview with Herod they saw again the Star on the way toward Bethlehem and they follow it until it looked to stop in one point, that was exactly the location of the cave in which Jesus lived with his parents.

This strange property of discontinuity in the phenomenon is what makes many Astronomers to believe the Star of Bethlehem was a triple planetary conjunction occurred in the year 6 BC over the sign of Aries, the one that is associated with historic correlations with the Hebrew Nation, and that took effect since the month of April to December of that Year, having Jupiter as the dominant Planet, the biggest one of the solar system and that since ancient times is correlated with the arrival of great kings.

www.washingtonpost.com...

This was for years a mere hypothesis but a recent discoveries of coins that were made in Syria by the time we are referring and that show a powerful star shining over the constellation of Aries, have confirmed that this event was so remarkable that even the Romans decided that it has some divine meaning.

An account from the Astronomer Firmicus Maternus, that lived in that epoch also is a confirmation of the celestial phenomenon, that again was completely natural, there was nothing of satanic on it.

www.eclipse.net...

It was Dr Michael Molnar who discovered these so old roman coins, that were made in Antioch of Syria, today Turkey, he was a reputed astronomer. Here a paper about the topic.

www.forumancientcoins.com...

Don't forget that St Luke refers to the census of Chirinus, as governor of Syria, as one of the hints to trace back the date of birth of Christ, well that roman nobleman lived and ruled precisely in the city of Antioch.

Now, it is required so much of negative imagination to blame the Magi or the Star of the massacre of the innocent saints, that was solely the responsibility of King Herod. He decided in the limit of his own arrogance, instead to recognize that somebody else greater than him was born, and present his respect to him, to act violently and cowardly. The Magi had nothing to do with all the madness that man had in his mind. Again, Herod judged the fact from his own very negative perspective, and logically his attitude was destructive, so instead of salvation he felt menaced for such a birth.


Thanks for your question,

The Angel of lightness

King James Bible St Mathew 2.9
When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

in the United States making a movie TWILIGHT Watch? when I read the book think it is impossible to make a film or story will be major changes

If we aren't allowed to admire the cosmos with wonderment, well, I wouldn't agree with that God.

I think the supposed forbidden practice of astrology is only so if you forget about the most high and wander into the realms of worshipping other "gods" before him.

Space is awesome! And God created it! Appreciate. Just do not sacrifice anybody lol.

Cool thread angel of light, I'm in the spirit today, I'm actually wearing a shirt with the Arabic form of N (nun), meaning "nasara" or Nazarene.

This was painted on the doors of the homes of known Christians by the so called "Islamic sate"

In Mosul, They were then given the choices, convert, pay high tax, or die"....

Eff that I say! Christ is king. I celebrate him today.

a reply to: The angel of light

The star lead them to Herod and not to Jesus. Jehovah God does not get things wrong. If he wanted to guide them to the child Jesus he would have done so, there was no need to lead them to Jerusalem, and then wait until they consult Herod so he can plot to murder his son, and then lead them the rest of the way to Bethlehem.

None of what you says makes sense if they were being guided by God.

And why does the Christmas nativity scene also get the Biblical account wrong, why do they need to lie about what happened?

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: iNobody

Dear iNobody,

The star was a natural phenomenon, it was very visible in the countries to the east of the Anatolia peninsula, but it was not a continuous apparition, it was recurrent however, it had cycles of minor or major intensity in the sky....

This strange property of discontinuity in the phenomenon is what makes many Astronomers to believe the Star of Bethlehem was a triple planetary conjunction occurred in the year 6 BC over the sign of Aries, the one that is associated with historic correlations with the Hebrew Nation, and that took effect since the month of April to December of that Year, having Jupiter as the dominant Planet, the biggest one of the solar system and that since ancient times is correlated with the arrival of great kings.

www.washingtonpost.com...

This was for years a mere hypothesis but a recent discoveries of coins that were made in Syria by the time we are referring and that show a powerful star shining over the constellation of Aries, have confirmed that this event was so remarkable that even the Romans decided that it has some divine meaning.

An account from the Astronomer Firmicus Maternus, that lived in that epoch also is a confirmation of the celestial phenomenon, that again was completely natural, there was nothing of satanic on it.

www.eclipse.net...

It was Dr Michael Molnar who discovered these so old roman coins, that were made in Antioch of Syria, today Turkey, he was a reputed astronomer. Here a paper about the topic.

www.forumancientcoins.com...

I would like you to follow any star in the sky, and have it lead you over a single household anywhere on earth.

You realize how all of this explaining away of a supernatural event makes you sound? There is NO WAY this star that appeared was natural. You cannot follow a star in the heavens that will lead you to a certain place, especially a specific household.

Especially one that leads you first to a king that wants to plot to kill the child, and then will lead you to the exact place the child is.

?????

What in the world?

a reply to: iNobody

For me it is very clear that you are not astronomer nor have had ever deep studies in the subject.

The term "following the star" is metaphoric, is a way to describe that they were following in time the conjunctions, not that the star was moving from Persia to Palestine.

That statement mean that the star was appearing and disappearing along the months of their trip. Hence, when they were in their original lands they saw a conjunction of Jupiter over Aries , that probably was in April 17th of the year 6 BC, during the first conjunction , and since it was over Aries, they knew where exactly the event it was announcing was taking place, since that constellation is correlated since ancient times with the Hebrews.

So the Magi decided to travel to the Holy land, of course not following the exact path of the Star, since the conjunction was static over Aries, the only motion it had was the apparent one of the entire stared sky , due to the rotation of the earth. The earth rotates toward the east, so the nighty sky seems to rotate to the west , in the same direction the sun travels daily in the sky, for a person that is static in one place.

They were just moving toward the country that the constellation is associated with, Aries represents in Astrology Palestine and Israel. It is just coincidental that Palestine is located precisely to the west from Persia, but well the people say that Coincidence is the pseudonym God likes to use when wants to remain anonymous.

It is likely that somewhere in the middle of the trip the second conjunction took place, possibly in July of that Year, and then finally when they were arriving to Jerusalem there was no longer star, so they decided to make inquiries among the population and that was when the priests of the temple listened about them and were them who told to the soldiers that were the very ones that went into Herod to report the incident.

As St Mathew clearly says the Magi never were thinking in to go to Herod, they went to the priests of the temple ,but the news came to the King and finally Herod sent guards to call them to the palace.

The last and third Conjunction of Jupiter in Aries, what the people use to call The star, was visible again when the Magi were traveling to Bethlehem until they arrived to the cave where the Holy family lived. That probably happened on September of the year 6 BC. Now, Bethlehem is to the south East of Jerusalem.

There is an statement of St Mathew in which he claim that the star was ahead of them. He was referring that the star was so much low in the celestial dome that it looked in front of them , not that it was moving toward Bethlehem. We don't know the exact hour they restarted the trip to Bethlehem, but it could be still on day, since the account suggest it was soon after they finished their talk with Herod or his messengers . What probably St Mathew tried to say is that the star suddenly appeared in front of them, to the east, when the sky was darkening, event that occur always in that direction, due to the rotation of the earth, since the sunset is always in the west.

Please I respectfully suggest you to take a serious course in Astronomy, your mistake is that you are interpreting the scriptures literally, you are lost in the literary style that the author used to describe a triple planetary conjunction. it is clear you are speculating with no solid base in the subject.

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

In other words, my mistake is that I believe the Bible?

Ok. That is all I needed to know. I respect you and your beliefs.