Medieval remedy for modern day superbugs

originally posted by: anonentity
I was thinking that as well. I know in the unpleasant world of slaughterhouses the bile glands are removed and stored. Plus the Chinese seem to be into gall bladders in a big way. It would be worth looking into. "Seems they have a lot of Gall", might be locked in the language somewhere. Sounds like if 75% of the immune system is in the gut, the bile might do something to enhance it.

Hmm... That was an interesting observation, I hope some-one in the research field is looking into this as well.

originally posted by: anonentity

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: anonentity

originally posted by: InTheLight
I am not surprised that ancient natural remedies are effective, especially garlic, which is an all-around good anti-fungal and anti-bacterial substance. I would, however, be interested in this AncientBiotics Team testing out some other cures from Bald's Leechbook, such as this one. (Siome of the other cures seem quite eccentric)

The remedy for shingles comprised a potion using the bark of 15 trees: aspen, apple, maple, elder, willow, sallow, myrtle, wych-elm, oak, blackthorn, birch, olive, dogwood, ash, and quickbeam.[7]

en.wikipedia.org...

I think the Garlic, would work because it slows down cell division , and the Alacin it produces is antibacterial, the leek would have a high organic Sulphur content, which kills bugs. But it really does sound like the steeping along with the other ingredients ups the bug killing effect . The alcohol, kills bugs as well, sounds like a great practical cure.

Indeed it does, but I wonder how that part of the cow's stomach contributes to it's efficacy, or does it just give it a salve-like base in which to suspend and/or keep it's active ingredients?

I was thinking that as well. I know in the unpleasant world of slaughterhouses the bile glands are removed and stored. Plus the Chinese seem to be into gall bladders in a big way. It would be worth looking into. "Seems they have a lot of Gall", might be locked in the language somewhere. Sounds like if 75% of the immune system is in the gut, the bile might do something to enhance it.

Perhaps the bile acid is only used to aid in the nine day fermentation process of the mixture?

www.nlm.nih.gov...

Here is the ancient recipe:

"The recipe calls for two species of Allium (garlic and onion or leek), wine and oxgall (bile from a cow’s stomach). It describes a very specific method of making the topical solution including the use of a brass vessel to brew it in, a straining to purify it and an instruction to leave the mixture for nine days before use."

This is all very precise, such as using a brass vessel to brew it in and to let it ferment for nine days.

If one reads about fermentation, it is advised NOT to use brass as the acids in the mixture will cause metals to leach into the mixture. So, what metals are in brass?

"Brass is an alloy made of copper and zinc; the proportions of zinc and copper can be varied to create a range of brasses with varying properties."

www.britannica.com...

It makes me wonder just what properties and/or processes can be eliminated, or do they all rely upon one another for the mixture to be effective?

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: anonentity

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: anonentity

originally posted by: InTheLight
I am not surprised that ancient natural remedies are effective, especially garlic, which is an all-around good anti-fungal and anti-bacterial substance. I would, however, be interested in this AncientBiotics Team testing out some other cures from Bald's Leechbook, such as this one. (Siome of the other cures seem quite eccentric)

The remedy for shingles comprised a potion using the bark of 15 trees: aspen, apple, maple, elder, willow, sallow, myrtle, wych-elm, oak, blackthorn, birch, olive, dogwood, ash, and quickbeam.[7]

en.wikipedia.org...

I think the Garlic, would work because it slows down cell division , and the Alacin it produces is antibacterial, the leek would have a high organic Sulphur content, which kills bugs. But it really does sound like the steeping along with the other ingredients ups the bug killing effect . The alcohol, kills bugs as well, sounds like a great practical cure.

Indeed it does, but I wonder how that part of the cow's stomach contributes to it's efficacy, or does it just give it a salve-like base in which to suspend and/or keep it's active ingredients?

I was thinking that as well. I know in the unpleasant world of slaughterhouses the bile glands are removed and stored. Plus the Chinese seem to be into gall bladders in a big way. It would be worth looking into. "Seems they have a lot of Gall", might be locked in the language somewhere. Sounds like if 75% of the immune system is in the gut, the bile might do something to enhance it.

Perhaps the bile acid is only used to aid in the nine day fermentation process of the mixture?

www.nlm.nih.gov...

Here is the ancient recipe:

"The recipe calls for two species of Allium (garlic and onion or leek), wine and oxgall (bile from a cow’s stomach). It describes a very specific method of making the topical solution including the use of a brass vessel to brew it in, a straining to purify it and an instruction to leave the mixture for nine days before use."

This is all very precise, such as using a brass vessel to brew it in and to let it ferment for nine days.

If one reads about fermentation, it is advised NOT to use brass as the acids in the mixture will cause metals to leach into the mixture. So, what metals are in brass?

"Brass is an alloy made of copper and zinc; the proportions of zinc and copper can be varied to create a range of brasses with varying properties."

www.britannica.com...

It makes me wonder just what properties and/or processes can be eliminated, or do they all rely upon one another for the mixture to be effective?

Copper and zinc, gives two metals that if , mixed with an electrolyte like wine, or vinegar would set up a fairly active. battery at about 1.5 volts. The zinc would have a good healing effect as its in common use in a lot of skin salves. So basically, the only reason that removed limbs don't regenerate like in a salamander, is that , the wound gains a positive charge, because of scarring, the ointment would leave quite a negetive charge on the wound. It would also upset the electrical balance of any pathogen as well, like perhaps destroy its internal chemistry with all the electrons. So it might actually be an electrical cure.

I guess you can add in the fact that steeping it for nine days, would make sure that the molecular bonds between the different elements , would form good isomers, I think that's the word. When different things go into molecular arrangements. That's what the Trojan horse cure for cancer is supposed to do with, the baking soda and molasses.

a reply to: texasgirl

Thank you, that is great information and I will look into it as well. I spent at least a grand on allergy tests and shots to determine what was going on with the poor guy. The tests came back that he was allergic to something in the environment, like dust mites and certain plant pollens.... I wonder if they really knew what they were doing because they have not been able to pinpoint anything. I will work on the food problem like you suggested, since these are the same symptoms that my dog has.

a reply to: soficrow

Good reply! I wish many things would go back to the holistic view of things. Everything is related and interdependent.