Arizona woman thankful stranger killed her son during attack

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Guy had to die whether the neighbour had a gun, a chainsaw or a blade of his own...

Thanks for saying it like it is, I was getting annoyed by all of the responses referring to him as a kid

29yo isn't a kid!

originally posted by: Beach Bum
Great story but the mom should still be upset that her kid died. That part doesn't sit right but he did do the attacking oh well.

I guess reading is out of the question,


Read at least what OP quoted the mother saying

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Ksihkehe

What do you have faith in? How could your expectations in this situation be so twisted and so wrong? Ever think about that?
Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong about other things too?
BTW, How long have you been watching Fux News?

I'm not sure what you're asking. 'Ye of little faith' was not a religious invocation. I don't know what is twisted or wrong about expecting a behavior that is normal for this topic.

originally posted by: Ancient Champion
He could have shot the kid in the legs and then disarmed him.

So by a wound in the legs, will that disable his hands and arms from continuing to slash away? No. You shoot to stop the threat. In a dynamic situation like that, you cannot stop to pick out a tiny target and hope it works. Shooting to wound has even gotten people in trouble with the law.
As another poster said, you shoot center mass. That gives you the best odds to hit, and disable an attacker. If your shots are off by a few inches, you still hit. If a leg or arm shot is off by a few inches, you miss and potentially hit someone or something else.

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The neighbor did the right thing. From the article I don't think the mother is happy to have lost her son, but more she is happy to still be alive after a disturbing attack. (Who reaches into a slashed throat to pull on the esophagus?) In a situation like that, when the person may be mere seconds from death, a quick reaction was best. It's sad that a mother lost his son, but more importantly, the mother is still alive thanks to the quick thinking of a vigilant neighbor.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

On a side note, the neighbor won't be charged with anything. He was acting in defense of a third party which, in Arizona, gives legal cause for shooting the addict in this case.

The right thing was done IMO.

originally posted by: CallmeRaskolnikov

originally posted by: Prezbo369
Yeah that's messed up, but promoting this story is just gonna lead to more people being shot by those guys with a 'home defense weapon' or the like, and shooting killing someone they find 'suspicious'....

The kid maybe didn't need to be shot, but yeeeeehaw right?

maybe if the neighbor had a spear tip attached to a rope he could have thrown it into the boy and pulled him away from him mom saying "GET OVER HEREEEEE!" lol then everyone would have lived.

Not if that was followed by F-A-T-A-L-I-T-Y......

a reply to: Ancient Champion

are you kidding me?...this has to be sarcasm...right?

I feel sorry for those that this effects, what a horrible situation, having to kill another and trying to be killed by your own son.

I seriously don't understand the mother being happy comments in this thread, I don't see the word happy in anything the OP quoted,

Its not in the title,

Am I missing something?

Just read the source and nothing about any happiness in there either.

a reply to: Ancient Champion

He could have shot the kid in the legs and then disarmed him.

LOL, spoken like a person who has experience with guns only from movies. Legs are a smal target and they may be moving. A rule of shooting is to "Know your target and whats beyond it." How far away was the shooter? You don't know. If you miss where is the bullet going to go? Second, you can shoot someone and they don't know it. It isn't like the movies.

If someone is being killed you want to stop the event IMMEDIATELY. So you aim at the torso and try to put them down.

Rules of firearms handling

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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Did you purposely ignore the meat of my post?

Promoting a tragedy like this is dangerous, or are you denying the scary number of people that own guns who are literally itching to fire them at someone?

And I have trouble with parts of the story, how long was the son attempting to kill his mom? long enough for a neighbor to hear the screams, look out his window, grab his gun, shout a warning, and only then shooting the son?

Yeah it doesn't sound like he was trying to 'rip her throat out' or whatever hyper bowl is being used.

It doesn't make sense.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
I feel sorry for those that this effects, what a horrible situation, having to kill another and trying to be killed by your own son.

I seriously don't understand the mother being happy comments in this thread, I don't see the word happy in anything the OP quoted,

Its not in the title,

Am I missing something?

Just read the source and nothing about any happiness in there either.

I think people are seeing "thankful" and misinterpreting it as "happy".

Outside of that I am not sure where "happy" is coming from.

Being thankful that she is alive, is not the same as being 'glad her son is dead,' people. I'm sure she is devastated that her son turned out this way, was unable to find his way to rightness, before something like this happened.

How dare you project your own emotional definitions of words on this womans' beyond horrible situation. How egocentric of you all.

I know first hand what drugs can do to you- My own mother would break into my house, with her strange druggie boyfriends while i was asleep, or at work. More than once I was attacked by her, or her filthy friends. There were times I'd have gladly killed them. GLADLY. No egocentric interpretation needed here- I'll say it again- I'd have been GLAD.

How #ing dare you people.

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Guy had to die whether the neighbour had a gun, a chainsaw or a blade of his own...

Thanks for saying it like it is, I was getting annoyed by all of the responses referring to him as a kid

29yo isn't a kid!

He was older than me.

Don't consider myself a kid...


Strange mindset to have.


Feel bad for him if they want, I don't, but don't exaggerate!

About the anti gun remarks, you can't really blame the "anti gun" as for every one good story there is 10/ 20 or more bad story's.

6...7 years ago i disarmed a guy trying to rob the reception with a box cutter at the hotel i worked on, by getting up behind him and grab him by his balls and hair and throw him to the ground, not to compare but you can in some situations deal with the person in other ways but shooting them, of course it carries a risk, but the surprise they get is often pacifying .

And no, i'm not anti gun, just making a comment...

a reply to: Prezbo369

Yeah it doesn't sound like he was trying to 'rip her throat out' or whatever hyper bowl is being used.

I know its a big word, but go ahead and try that again...

originally posted by: Prezbo369
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Did you purposely ignore the meat of my post?

Promoting a tragedy like this is dangerous, or are you denying the scary number of people that own guns who are literally itching to fire them at someone?

And I have trouble with parts of the story, how long was the son attempting to kill his mom? long enough for a neighbor to hear the screams, look out his window, grab his gun, shout a warning, and only then shooting the son?

Yeah it doesn't sound like he was trying to 'rip her throat out' or whatever hyper bowl is being used.

It doesn't make sense.

"Ignore the meat" of your post? No...there was no "meat" to your post. You said you think it will precipitate more shootings in your opinion.

Unless there is someone trying to kill another person, I fail to see how gun owning citizens will look at this story as a way to justify going out and killing people.

And I am sorry you have trouble with the story, but the quotes AND the story came directly from the mother of the dead son. She was the one being attacked and it was her son attacking. You think she is purposely misleading in her story for some type of agenda or something?

How does it not make sense? Did you read the source? There is no "promoting" going on....simply a news story that ended well because of an armed citizen who was being vigilant and did the right thing.

Much happier it ended like this than a news story of a son slashing his mother to death in the street with people just pulling out their phones to make a video....now that would be a tragedy.

Well excuse me if I don't enjoy seeing people getting killed, the guy had mental problems that needed to be addressed. Maybe if I play more GTA I'll get past it.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Forgive them. They are stupid.

a reply to: Prezbo369

I'm 42 yrs old I've owned at least 1 firearm since I was 9, I've never had an itch to shoot someone. In fact I hope and pray I never have to... But if the need arises... Better to be armed trained and equippe, than a victim.

Did you read the part where he reached into the cut he made??