Don't believe in ghosts? Watch this spooky interaction with mother and daughter

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

She may be four, but that's a more than adequate age for reading from a piece of paper in the manner that she may have done if this video is fake. I've seen child actors/actresses that can act very well but that's just my opinion on the video anyhow. I'm a very open-minded atheist, my sister can speak to dead people and has seen multiple apparitions - I believe her completely. I've never experienced a single thing myself yet. I'm leaning towards thinking that only certain people are on the specific "spectrum".

Mother's reaction didn't seem natural at all, cute kid though.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Firstly, a kudos for bringing up your kids as you have. I know you don't require that kind of affirmation, but I think that's a good way to approach spirituality with children and support that kind of effort whenever I see it.

I've actually performed such experiments before. I considered myself Wiccan for quite awhile in my 20s and have yet to toss out my Starhawk and McCoy books to this day. I lost young people close to me that I tried very adamantly to "reach" in such ways. Nothing ever came of it and I merely resigned to thinking I was just good at "calling" the living instead with a notion that I could make people contact me if I tried.

Later, during considerable self-introspection, I realized and admitted to myself that I had just been lying to myself about that and several other "experiments" that I thought had an effect. I, like everyone, also struggled with the need to be special or enlightened in some fashion. I saw the coincidences for what they were and that was partly the beginning of my trek towards atheism. I'm so very glad for that. I'm still partly a believer of what could be considered "astral projection" due to an almost-experience I had during one of my hundreds of attempts. But, that too has been explained by science and rather succinctly. I'll always be a fan of lucid dreaming, but I do not see that as a spiritual thing anymore.

And I believe we simply decay upon death. I have read, observed and surfed extensively to learn that we do not actually have souls. Our consciousness is merely our primitive mind that developed the abilities of language and rationalization. We are merely bags of bacteria affected mostly by hormones and basic necessity. And that's ok.

a reply to: FlySolo

This is all meaningless. It's entirely possible to stage this, and the fact that so many are deliberately refusing to accept this fact shows a clear bias here.

There are other facts that people refuse to accept too, like the many thousands of scientific minds throughout history who have all stated that when they die they will send a message from the other side to those they love, and guess what, that message is never sent.

Without testing under scientific conditions all "evidence" like this is always going to be suspicious, and therefore pointless. That's the reality. We know that people fake things, we know that kids have wild imaginations, we know that certain environmental factors can affect our perceptions, we know that there has been no confirmed evidence.

I get the whole wishful thinking, and I even get that there are things we cannot explain (believe me, I have experienced things I cannot explain too) but videos like this are not "evidence".

I really do wish people were more scientific and analytical about these things, without all the noisy BS people believe we might actually be able to see the wood for the trees eventually.

a reply to: mwsmith

I allowed that she could be a very talented child. I'm also allowing room for this to be genuine.

a reply to: Rocker2013

Sure it's entirely possible to fake it. But what separates me from skeptics is my trust in my ability to know when people are lying. There is no science for paranormal yet to put your faith into. However, what is tangible, and not paranormal is everyone's ability to judge human behavior. Now, no one can read minds but we are given enough cues, variables, and circumstance to make a valid decision regarding someone's intent.

Whilst people may argue that ghosts aren't real and there is no 'evidence', they are the same people willing to call a person a liar, without evidence as well. See where I'm going with this? If one is to consider themselves balanced in terms of being credulous or incredulous regarding paranormal, then they need to use the same principles when it comes to 'real life' events.
There's no evidence that ghosts exist, but there's no evidence that a mother has coached her 4 y/o to lie. How quickly a skeptic is willing to refute human behavior based on personal bias with nothing factual to back up that bias, lumping it under the same category as "paranormal and unscientific" In other words, it's hypocritical to say there is no evidence of ghosts, therefore anyone who makes the claim is lying. See my point? it's like a double negative. It should be, "there is no evidence of ghosts, but I'm am not in a position to state factually that this person is lying, without evidence"

So it comes down to this. Evidence in the paranormal relies heavily on the credibility of those who have the experience.
That's it. That's all. If you can refute the witness, then you refute the claim. Otherwise, there is validity to the claim.

That's my response.

Many years ago I met John Edwards when he was doing psychic readings at people's houses

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

John Edwards just one of the many hoaxers scamming the guallable and emotionally compromised, the Randi foundation still has it's cash waiting to be claimed

The mothers reaction is really bad, I mean really bad acting. Fake to the bone, and I do believe in spirits

Well spotted, this hoaxter should be totally ashamed of herself for using her own child to produce a hoax in order to get money. Borderline child abuse IMHO

a reply to: FlySolo

I don't necessarily believe she "coached" the child to do this. Her reaction and background certainly don't give her credibility any points, but yeah, there's no hard evidence to suggest that she did. But, I don't buy what she's sellin'.

A great many people willingly believe in the supernatural or want to badly. Research into street magic has amazing examples of how easily humans can be manipulated. It's almost embarrassing. Derren Brown is a great example: en.wikipedia.org...

People will rationalize and manipulate sometimes even subconsciously to feed that desire. There are aspects of our brains that lean toward abstract belief. We're still biological animals that are far from infallible to tricks of the mind and the environment.

People will capitalize on anything they can for popularity, acceptance and money.

Children frequently dwell in a fantasy realm or just make # up and yet, pick up details all the time that we don't realize. When those details pop up in odd ways like the video, it can appear mystical. Practically anything involving a child's actions in videos like this should be immediately suspect and taken with a grain of salt.
They're not "sensitive"; they're babies.

All these considerations and more must be stacked against any claims or videos purporting otherwise.

Way too much "show" here to be taken seriously, IMHO.

I mean, people don't normally record moments like this with their children for no reason, right? I know when I'm talking to a kid about ancestors and having an intimate moment, I don't do it in front of a camera and put on a face for the camera.

Why were you recording this? Why did you end it right at the DUN-DUN-DUUUNNNN moment? Kids also say the weirdest things. If my 3 year old nephew came in and said "Grampa is here and says hi!" I would chalk it up to an overactive imagination or television. Not a visit for the otherworld. Does that make me close-minded? Possibly. It would certainly take more than that to sway my views (if I didn't already believe). Credit to the other poster who put that so eloquently. Please don't advertise your content as proof that would change any skeptic to a believer when it is the least bit doubtful.

a reply to: FlySolo

The mother looks pretty darn shocked, great vid.
Thanks for posting OP

Rebel 5

a reply to: DupontDeux

I'm more on staged, but... having said that my friend, I think if she were shocked and tried to find the best way to look at her daughter face to face, then the brain would immediately point the head to the MONITOR wherein the full face of the child is facing her, and not on the side of the kids head. Such are humans, face magnets.

The mom stared at the monitor at the end, and not at the camera. My to cents.

I found this mother and child ghost video.
Really spooky.......!



This doesn't seem faked to me but I do feel the video in the OP is staged.

originally posted by: ChristianJihad
Well spotted, this hoaxter should be totally ashamed of herself for using her own child to produce a hoax in order to get money. Borderline child abuse IMHO

Sorry I must have missed the bit where the mother is touting for money, any chance you could direct me to any links where she is asking for money?

originally posted by: DupontDeux
a reply to: FlySolo

Also, publicity is her bread and butter:

www.bridgeandtunnelentertainment.com...


Shes has a pretty good reason for wanting to draw attention towards herself.

Good find. If she's even half the marketing genius she claims to be, then she knows all about viral marketing and unfortunately that leaves us with a video that can hardly be considered free of potential bias.

originally posted by: destination now
Sorry I must have missed the bit where the mother is touting for money, any chance you could direct me to any links where she is asking for money?

Not directly, but the more attention she gets the more business she gets and the more money she makes, so attention seeking in her case probably can be construed to have a profit motive. The link is above.

a reply to: FlySolo

Did anyone notice the orb that went flying by just a second before the little girl announced that her grandma was there?
It's at the 3:18 mark.

I haven't read through all the posts so I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already.
And, for the ones who say orbs are dust... not all are dust. I've seen them with my own two eyes.

a reply to: sled735

Well I'll be a.. yeah, you're right. A little flash behind her head then it zips off. Great catch!

a reply to: gottaknow

What's your response to the orb Sled noticed?

originally posted by: ChristianJihad

Many years ago I met John Edwards when he was doing psychic readings at people's houses

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

John Edwards just one of the many hoaxers scamming the guallable and emotionally compromised, the Randi foundation still has it's cash waiting to be claimed

Well thank you very much. I just love having my experiences invalidated by total strangers.
Way to go.