Rumor: Putin Has Been Neutralized by a "Stealthy Coup" - Opening Post Updated 9x - Putin Found

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Morale of this story is Putin is amused by the gossip

That's it lads,your amusement

Well done!

>Probably took his holiday time off
>didn't tell anyone where he was for security reasons
>kicking back drinking mai tai's tweeting out he is dead or been overthrown
>laughing his ass off

a reply to: HardKnox

Please folks, stay on topic. This is a massive thread about a story with social media origins that is not finished. Far too many posts are way off-topic, and making it difficult for new readers.

Use this thread to voice your opinions on the matter: Discussion About The Putin Stealthy Coup Rumors Mega-Thread.



Stay on topic!



Thread closed briefly so that this post is seen by participating members.

originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Morale of this story is Putin is amused by the gossip

That's it lads,your amusement

Well done!

>Probably took his holiday time off
>didn't tell anyone where he was for security reasons
>kicking back drinking mai tai's tweeting out he is dead or been overthrown
>laughing his ass off

Starting a rumor to say he's dead to bring out the critics? Might have been well played, or just the flavor of the day gossip on Twitter. Probably the latter.

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Starting a rumor to say he's dead did bring out the critics

I think the "Putin is Dead" rumors were the result of combining wishful thinking with real events. For Putin to "go dark" almost immediately after the Crimeans were arrested for the Boris Nemtsov murder -- knowing the harsh realities of Russian politics, several analysts predicting Moscow could soon rapidly weaken, and a rising tide of irritated oligarchs loosing their fortunes -- the speculation was not without merit.

I would love to hear from someone who is "inside" so to speak. Was this simply a ploy to drive out someone that Putin thought had bad intentions? Also, to the body guard...was it ever said if he also showed up or is he confirmed to be murdered? I still think he may have been in hiding.

EPIC THREAD! I read it last night and enjoyed every minute of it.

People with ideas and good brains love to speculate!

Best thread in weeks.

On topic: The thing is, with Russia you never know. Historically, it's a secretive country. So much going on last night it's difficult to shrug your shoulder's and walk away, and assume today that all is well. SOMETHING happened.

Well if there is any truth to inner turmoil at the Kremlin then we will see other stories coming to light soon about arrests or the fleeing of prominent individuals. Although seeing the way they do things there they may keep that well under wraps as well and we may know nothing until sometime down the road. Regardless . . . it was strange. Any leader disappearing for that long a stretch with everyone playing 'where's Waldo" is just not usual business IMO.

originally posted by: Martin75
I would love to hear from someone who is "inside" so to speak.

I have several contact attempts, via Twitter, from people claiming to be "inside." Using Twitters' private messaging now to see if they're real.

There are ongoing developments.

First, more and more reporters are commenting on Putin's appearance via their twitter accounts. Pasty, pale, bloated, puffy, exhausted, nervous, and unPutin are terms being tossed around

Next, news about Igor Gunmen, Putin's "number one gunman" in the Ukraine has recently come out with some uncharacteristic criticism and prediction of a Putin assassination.

Original is in Russian:
Putin expects the fate of Nicholas II or Milosevic: former "Defense Minister" DNR Shooters
English translation:

The former "Defense Minister" breakaway Donetsk People's Republic Igor Gunmen said yesterday in Yekaterinburg that President Vladimir Putin can expect the fate of Emperor Nicholas II, who was shot in the Urals in 1918. According to Radio Liberty, reported by internent edition Znak.com.

Shooters made at a meeting with supporters in the "king's hall" Ural Mining University on the occasion of the presentation of the local branch of the movement "New Russia". The former commander of the armed separatists in the Donbass also suggested that other "options" complete political career Putin may be the fate of the Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic, tried Hague Tribunal and died in the year 2006 in the prison in The Hague.

Source - Radio Liberty

I really like this thread! Thank you, OP!!

But I think it is sad that so many members are classifying this thread as a hoax, I just don´t get it. I think you are too quick to judge.

This means, as you say, that everything must be considered a hoax until proven with facts - but from whom? That will surely make a lot of the threads here classified as hoax instead of discussions and brainstorming, trying to understand.

If we can´t discuss theoretical topics without them being classified as a hoax, then we can´t discuss anything. It has clearly been said all the time that we were discussing the rumours about what happened - along with a whole media world. A lot of papers and other media has had this as one of their main stories during the weekend.

I think we should see this thread as a very important proof what we, the members, can achieve here. ATS was the only site I could find where all the different rumours and theories were collected.

I also think we have a resonable high level of demand of links to sources of information which is in the end self-cleaning. We should continue demanding sources for information, even if that is only to reveal that a lot of the information has its origin in one, unstable source.

It is important to have a scientific approach to what we do, which means we can help each other appraise sources and find the most probable "truth" to what is happening, no matter the subject, no matter the source, be it Facebook, Twitter or a random picture. That is a sound and scientific criticism of the sources, done in every scholarly research project.

What would have happened if Putin hadn´t showed up for the meeting today? Would it still have been a hoax?

I along with some others, still want to know about the bodygaurd...was that a rumour?

I he ok?

I'm sure the informtion wasn't reliable, but it seems as though we have forgotten about this little bit of alleged info.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

a reply to: SkepticOverlord
Thank you! I hope that your great digging pays off. Thanks again!

originally posted by: HardKnox
a reply to: DJW001

What is your problem? The thread was about rumors, not about Putin

This......

Were the rumors true?

We don't know yet! Well, obviously we know the rumour that he might be dead is untrue but it remains to be seen if all rumours were/are untrue.

It's still a complete mystery, to us, where he was for 10 days.

I'm also still curious as to why his Twitter feed hasn't been posted to since 6th March despite nearly daily postings prior to that. Maybe he's bored with Twitter? twitter.com...

Some of the rumours may still turn out to be true... only time will tell.

*Crimeans = Chechens

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Starting a rumor to say he's dead did bring out the critics

I think the "Putin is Dead" rumors were the result of combining wishful thinking with real events. For Putin to "go dark" almost immediately after the Crimeans were arrested for the Boris Nemtsov murder -- knowing the harsh realities of Russian politics, several analysts predicting Moscow could soon rapidly weaken, and a rising tide of irritated oligarchs loosing their fortunes -- the speculation was not without merit.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Vasa Croe


But do you really think Putin tweets?

I doubt he has time for personal tweets but he obviously has people doing it on his behalf according to his official feed.

"The official twitter channel for President of the Russian Federation. Tweets from the President are signed #VP"

twitter.com...

"When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be frightened; those things must take place; but that is not yet the end. "For nation will rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes in various places; there will also be famines. These things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.." Mark 13:7-8

originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: opethPA
True, but I don't remember the alleged missing of our friend Kim getting this much of attention on ATS at all.

This Kim?