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originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: crazyewok
Well he was pretty much guilty of treason .
Him and his cronies should have died behind bars for the Iran-contra affair
At the end of the day I would not be surprised he was involved in this.
If you can be involved in one massive crime then its not beyond reason you could be involved in a second one too.
Since he didn't do anything that violated the actual definition of treason, no he was not "pretty much guilty" of it. Laws were broken, either by him or in his name, but the act of treason wasn't one of them.
And really, saying that since somebody is willing to break one kind of law, then they're probably willing to break an entirely different kind of law is silly.
There are plenty of murderers in prison who wouldn't bat an eyelash at killing somebody, to include a chomo because they find the crime reprehensible.
No but it does mean he loses credibility.
And bypassing congress to give "comfort and aid to the enemy" last time I checked was treason.
Iran was the USA enemy. Regan allowed the supply of weapons to Iran. That fulfills the definition of providing aid to the enemy.
Ahhh but the arms were supposed to be going to what was put forth as a moderate faction within the government seeking to establish a relationship with the U.S.
That turned out not to be the case.
Hardly qualifies as giving aid and comfort to the enemy, except in hindsight.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: crazyewok
Well he was pretty much guilty of treason .
Him and his cronies should have died behind bars for the Iran-contra affair
At the end of the day I would not be surprised he was involved in this.
If you can be involved in one massive crime then its not beyond reason you could be involved in a second one too.
Since he didn't do anything that violated the actual definition of treason, no he was not "pretty much guilty" of it. Laws were broken, either by him or in his name, but the act of treason wasn't one of them.
And really, saying that since somebody is willing to break one kind of law, then they're probably willing to break an entirely different kind of law is silly.
There are plenty of murderers in prison who wouldn't bat an eyelash at killing somebody, to include a chomo because they find the crime reprehensible.
No but it does mean he loses credibility.
And bypassing congress to give "comfort and aid to the enemy" last time I checked was treason.
Iran was the USA enemy. Regan allowed the supply of weapons to Iran. That fulfills the definition of providing aid to the enemy.
Ahhh but the arms were supposed to be going to what was put forth as a moderate faction within the government seeking to establish a relationship with the U.S.
That turned out not to be the case.
Hardly qualifies as giving aid and comfort to the enemy, except in hindsight.
Political bull #ting and semantics.
originally posted by: KingIcarus
a reply to: ugmold
Dubya got everything he wanted from his Presidency. He got his wars, he and all his friends got paid. It doesn't have anything to do with doing things for the American people at all.
It takes a smart man to do all that and get himself elected twice. Well, one and a half times - but you know what I mean.