RT -Russia ready to repel any nuke strike, retaliate – missile forces command chief

a reply to: CharlesT

Oh, I wasn't implying the report was wrong, I remember hearing about it a while back. I'm just not big on that particular site (B. Insider)

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

Russia is perhaps feeling a bit defensive at the moment.

Let us keep an eye on this (second link from my post)...

The murder is supposed to meet two objectives: discredit Putin within the country and discredit Putin outside the country.

If some "evidence" of Putin's involvement will surface, we can assume that the first stage of a coup in Russia has begun.

This is my purely subjective opinion, my conspiracy theory, I do not claim to be correct."

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WELL...good.
NOBODY should be able to nuke Russia anymore.

a reply to: Kapusta

Any Attempt to convince me otherwise will be in Vain.

Of course it will, you just don't like US and don't want to see US and Russia are two bullies in the world and at the end of day they care for themselves and will intervene in any country seeking their interest, non of them is the good guy, the only difference is one is a capitalist place where you can live ok and the other is a dictatorial corruption cesspool.

a reply to: Wookiep

Wait, someone will be along any moment now to claim that the CIA is "making" Russia talk about Nuclear war...

Because, you know, absolutely everything is the fault of the "evil west" and Putin and his Soviet style Kremlin are all innocent little fluffie bunnies who all just accidentally keep proving the world right at every opportunity.



This is all just part of the continued ratcheting up of the extreme nationalism going on in Russia right now. If you watch any reports where the opposition and marchers were interviewed today you see the same comments about how Russia is swinging back to the Soviet era, only now with much more saturation of media, flooding the country with propaganda.

Plenty of people within Russia are seeing it, with anyone questioning the Kremlin being called "traitors". If you imagine the nationalism of the US immediately after 911 and multiply that by 100, you might get close to what's happening in Russia right now.

Regardless of whether Putin or the Kremlin was directly involved in the murder of the Opposition figure, they are responsible for the massive rise in ultra-nationalism and the violence this is breeding.

Once again, it's on par with what Hitler did in Germany prior to WW2.

a reply to: JonStone

www.stripes.com...

news.yahoo.com...

abcnews.go.com...

Need I go further?

a reply to: CharlesT

I guess you missed my last reply

originally posted by: JonStone
a reply to: CharlesT

Oh, I wasn't implying the report was wrong, I remember hearing about it a while back. I'm just not big on that particular site (B. Insider)

a reply to: JonStone

We are cool, partner! I"m not really sure just why so many have been terminated, I just know there has been one big shake up in our missile command in the past year. Is it just coincidence? I really don't know.

a reply to: CharlesT

I think it had something to do with just incompetance if I remember right. I know one story where there was an AF bomber flying around the US that was nuclear armed, but they didn't know it was armed. In another story, the guys were not doing the correct maintenaince on the missiles. If this was the reason, let's me glad they were fired!

a reply to: JonStone

If they were truly fired for incompetence, I agree!

originally posted by: Indigent
a reply to: Kapusta

Any Attempt to convince me otherwise will be in Vain.

Of course it will, you just don't like US and don't want to see US and Russia are two bullies in the world and at the end of day they care for themselves and will intervene in any country seeking their interest, non of them is the good guy, the only difference is one is a capitalist place where you can live ok and the other is a dictatorial corruption cesspool.

The only thing i "don't like " as you put it , is the current state of the US government ( Because i am American ) and it's current over seas policy's. I "don't like " they way the US has been bought out by big Corporation . I "don't like " our flawed two party system . I have many reasons NOT to like our current government state . If you are asking me to be in support of a government that has Used , lied ,started wars and stolen from my kids and my fellow American's and others in the the world ! Then sorry sir i cannot . The Fact is their are mover's and Shakers in EVERY GOVERNMENT , I am not Implying that Russia is innocent ! because they are NOT ! I am Simply saying ( again) that The US is the Aggressor in this conflict . And i think you have it wrong about "the Two bullies in the world " i would have to go with UK ,USA, hands down ,then we can continue the list from their !

originally posted by: Metallicus
I wish aliens would just confiscate all of our nuclear weapons. In the hands of our 'leaders' Its like letting little children play with guns.

Or monkeys.
No offense to boymonkey.

a reply to: Wookiep

I think they sound a bit desperate. Kind of like another country we all know and love...North Korea. Its really our fault because we allowed terrorism to shape our internal policies as well as our personal lives. Our politicians have reacted to terror in exactly the way that terrorist want...running scared.

They created a new department (DHS) more powerful than any other and have poured billions into it. We shake and shiver on our evening news cast when a video shows terrorist in action and we are not even allowed to carry a bottler of shampoo on an aircraft. We blinked and the whole world knows it.

So...why not mention nuclear war every opportunity you have...why not threaten and raise the rhetoric...it works apparently...especially when you have an administration ready to capitulate to everyone under the sun. I think we should not play into it...don't give terrorist or the Russian government any news coverage...they both feed off of it as much as our silly politicians and they're five minute soundbites.

Simple saber rattling from the Russian government who no more has an interest in nuclear war than anyone else on this planet so I will simply ignore the propaganda which is really aimed at the citizens of both countries...designed to frighten Americans into compelling Congress to capitulate to every demand and stop sanctions and to bolster Russian citizens belief that the Russian is actually strong and standing up to the big bad west when in reality neither side is anything other a big bloated bags of hot air playing both its citizens

a reply to: DJMSN

I think they sound a bit desperate. Kind of like another country we all know and love...North Korea.

I agree, I find Russia's nuke rhetoric very similar to North Korea's, and that's the scary part really. At least we have the security knowing that NK most likely doesn't have the capability to nuke the U.S. via long range missile...but it's different with Russia because they do, as well as with subs off the coast of anywhere..Crazy things can happen in the midst of desperation.

a reply to: Wookiep

The first which will happen is the satellites will be knocked out in a strike, and the moment that has happened, all things can happen with countries being "blind."

It looks like SMF chief is referring to Prompt Global Strike of the US. It actually aims to put 100s of missiles in critical areas of any country and create chaos in its defensive set up.

As to if PGS is already operational is the question.

It also seems that Russians are expecting things to go more volatile in Ukraine and are warning US to not take things for granted.

US strategic mindset is obsessed with Russia. Did Kremlin found that out only when Kiev events took place or knew it much before that? If they knew it before hand then did they make any upgraded defensive preparations to items like PGS or Rods from Gods or Massive Cyber attack etc.

RuAF does not even have more than handful Su-35s. So it seems they are placing all bets on nuclear based scenario.

originally posted by: victor7
It also seems that Russians are expecting things to go more volatile in Ukraine and are warning US to not take things for granted.

I would be concerned with Estonia too.

There was talk of a more pro-Russian party gaining power, but the ruling center-left pro-NATO party has just won the election.

The government there has already been quite vocal about Russian aggression, and they have experienced several incursions into their airspace, the most serious of which was a spy mission in October which required a NATO response to escort the Russian Ilyushin 20 “Coot” out of their airspace.

Of course Russia denied it happened publicly, even though several NATO members were involved in the response and back up the report from Estonian government.

It certainly seems that Russia has eyes on several countries, but right now Ukraine and Estonia should probably be the most prominent - unless this is a diversionary tactic and Russia suddenly goes in another direction without warning.

Personally I think there's going to be a surprise in the coming months, and it's not going to be pretty. I'm not entirely sure NATO is ready for any surprise ground assault or a repeat of what Russia has done in Ukraine, it seems a little lethargic and bogged down in bureaucracy. NATO might be good for fast air defense, but a ground assault is something of an unknown quantity.

originally posted by: Kapusta
oh Whelp maybe the US should stop meddling in other country affairs .

You mean like going out of your way to provoke a civil war in a neighboring country?

Sorry, posting is going squiffy, editing is resulting in double posts and confusing quotes!?

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
The first which will happen is the satellites will be knocked out in a strike, and the moment that has happened, all things can happen with countries being "blind."

They wouldn't be blind.
We don't rely solely on satellite monitoring and never have done.
Monitoring is carried out through various means, potentially even including eyes on the ground.

Regardless of whether a nation could successfully take out satellites, the moment Russia or the US fires a Nuke the other will know it and fire back within minutes - Mutually Assured Destruction is still in play and always will be.

The only reason this is being talked about now is to increase the extreme nationalism being perpetuated within Russia, this is likely to grow over the coming weeks and months as Putin and the Kremlin become increasingly concerned with a national sentiment of exasperation with their leader and his choices. Economic sanctions are biting, the Russian economy is struggling, people are now increasingly being torn between being "patriotic" or having a half-decent existence.

The public will only support their leader so far. When quality of life, economy and opportunity really start to decline they will be turning on him and factions will start forming in the country. Unfortunately, when this happens a leader usually tales his country to war to force them to unite against a common enemy.

In this case that "enemy" will likely be NATO.