Boris Nemtsov (Putin Critic) killed in the center of Moscow

originally posted by: MasterMaximum
a reply to: dragonridr

Do to the fact the police hasnt discussed the city vehicle with flashing lights im guessing cover up is in full swing.

It was hardly a day old when you said that. You really think it's normal for the police to share every lead they are looking at with the media, on day one?

That is such nonsense.

And btw, it's spelled due, for future reference.

Not all leads but obvious ones. A snow blower plowing snow that doesn't exist, is pretty big.

a reply to: JonStone

I was just curious but it is clear what your interest is though.

Not that there is anything wrong with it.

a reply to: MasterMaximum


What is that supposed to mean? Where have you been since this thread was even started? What does any of what you just said have to do with my interests? It has nothing to do with my interests, it has to do with my OPINION, which is something everybody has. Some base it on facts, others on nothing more than the fact that they cannot except anything other than what they believe. Based on this, and your last response, I think it's pretty clear where your interests lie as well...especially since you really don't know anything about me.

a reply to: JonStone

Not all leads but obvious ones. A snow blower plowing snow that doesn't exist, is pretty big.

What are they supposed to say in the media? "Oh and that snow blower, we are looking into that too, just so you know, if all traces to it had not been erased yet, they sure will be now."

These demands you guys are making are ridiculously unrealistic.

A snow blower plowing snow that doesn't exist, is pretty big.

What? I don't think it is a snow blower, and I just saw you calling it a street sweeper or sweeper in 5 seperate posts, and now it suddenly is a snow blower?

Weird.

a reply to: JonStone

It's possible. Those sweepers can be loud, but then again, he was never questioned and the drivers are usually quite aware of their surroundings.

How do you know that he wasn't questioned?

a reply to: victor7

Here is the real video that predicts what is going to happen in Kiev soon.................

What does this have to do with this thread?

And had Putin stayed out of Ukraine this problem wouldn't be happening now would it?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

And had Putin stayed out of Ukraine this problem wouldn't be happening now would it?

If the West had stayed out of Ukraine this wouldn't be happening now would it.

a reply to: MasterMaximum

If the West had stayed out of Ukraine this wouldn't be happening now would it.

And yet Russia was in there long before the west...

Well let's look at that then shall we...

IS the west supplying arms and troops fighting against the Ukraine gov't?

Did the west annex any part of Ukraine on the lie that they were protecting ethnic westerners?

Did the west steal billions from the Ukraine people then flee with help from Russia when caught...neither did Russia, but they helped the person who did. Which btw was a Putin stooge.

Also did the west tell the then president he had a choice go to the EU forget Russia trade, or forget the EU and you get cheap gas and from Russia?

Care to provide anything that proves your assertions?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

And yet Russia was in there long before the west...

Exactly! You said it just right.

So what is the West's business there? Is Ukraine an official member of one of their pacts?

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I've reported your post for off-topic and serious attempt to derail this thread since you guys as always have got no proof to support your assumptions whatsoever. Let's see if the mods will react, which i seriously doubt they will.

And as far as this thread goes.
Twenty pages of nothing have been written so far, and I trust it will be the same as when ATS discussed that airplane that was shot down over Ukraine. People will just blame it on Russia and Putin without showing ANY evidence. You are claiming that Putin ordered this guy to be killed just because he was talking badly about him and Russia's "participation" in Ukraine crisis. What? Why on Earth would Putin do such a thing? It makes no sense to anyone who's just a little bit objective.

But, then again, you guys would believe in absolutely anything that is against Putin, even though you've got no proof to support your assumptions. Seems like the propaganda from this current Cold War is really taking it's toe on you guys. You've lost touch with reality.

a reply to: MasterMaximum

So what is the West's business there? Is Ukraine an official member of one of their pacts?

And it was freed from Russia's grasp in 91 so what is Russia's business there?

So by your thinking any country that once ruled part of another should be able to retake it...well then look out because China wants Siberia back and it's okay because they had claim to that part of Russia long before the Russians ever did.

Russia isn't part of a west pact yet they still do business there, so your question really isn't a valid one.

a reply to: Nikola014

I've reported your post for off-topic and serious attempt to derail this thread since you guys as always have got no proof to support your assumptions whatsoever. Let's see if the mods will react, which i seriously doubt they will.

Good luck with that, because trust me if it were a problem it would have already been addressed.

Twenty pages of nothing have been written so far, and I trust it will be the same as when ATS discussed that airplane that was shot down over Ukraine.

Why because it makes Putin look bad...imagine that.

Why on Earth would Putin do such a thing? It makes no sense to anyone who's just a little bit objective.

It only makes no sense to those who think Putin is a god and has done nothing wrong concerning Ukraine. And trust me you are far from being objective on this conflict.

But, then again, you guys would believe in absolutely anything that is against Putin, even though you've got no proof to support your assumptions.

Pretty much like when you and your Putinista buddies claim the US has troops fighting in Ukraine, or when it is claimed the US has mercenaries fighting there because a weapon made in the US was found there.

Seems like the propaganda from this current Cold War is really taking it's toe on you guys. You've lost touch with reality.

You should look back through your own posts and you will see who has lost touch with reality.

And btw your whole post is essentially off topic, so you may want to watch that when discussing someone else being off topic next time.

a reply to: MasterMaximum

I wonder if Russia would have stayed out of Ukraine if they hadn't signed away their nuclear arsenal...

Reunification of USSR anyone?

a reply to: EternalSolace

I wonder if Russia would have stayed out of Ukraine if they hadn't signed away their nuclear arsenal...

Easy answer...Nope.

A nuclear arsenal is one hell of a deterrent.

originally posted by: dragonridr
If this is actual footage of the murder than it was definitely planned and executed by an organized group who could get access to city vehicles.

From what I read on RT police believe someone was waiting hidden in a stairway that goes down the side of the bridge. Just as the sweeper passes the guy pops out, shoots Nemtsov emptying his clip into him, white car races up, guy jumps in the white car and they high tail it out of there.

For what an RT reports is worth anyway!

originally posted by: EternalSolace
a reply to: MasterMaximum

I wonder if Russia would have stayed out of Ukraine if they hadn't signed away their nuclear arsenal...

Reunification of USSR anyone?

Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal because the major players promised to guarantee their security in the Budapest Memorandum. Clearly, the terms of this memorandum have been broken; Russia by annexing Crimea and the United States by not defending it against Russia. Some people just can't seem to wrap their heads around this.

It's funny to read the multiple Mother Russian posters at ATS say that no Russian would believe Putin did it. Well, here are some Russians who believe he did it...

'Vladimir Milov, an opposition politician and former deputy minister, said he had “less and less doubt” that the killing was facilitated by the Russia security services, because Mr Nemtsov was known to be under close surveillance.'

"Boris Nemtsov was a stark opposition leader who criticised the most important state officials in our country, including President Vladimir Putin,” said Ilya Yashin, an opposition activist, who last spoke to Mr Nemtsov two days before the killing. “As we have seen, such criticism in Russia is dangerous for one’s life.”

"Mikhail Kasyanov, an opposition leader and a former prime minister under Mr Putin, added: “That a leader of the opposition could be shot beside the walls of the Kremlin is beyond imagination. There can be only one version: that he was shot for telling the truth.”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11442446/Boris-Nemtsov-murder-Kremlin-accused-of-whitewash-over-probe-into-leading-opposition-figures -killing.html

You really have to convict some ATS users of extreme bias.