Catch 22 – Show me the evidence you conspiracy loony! Evidence sucks!

a reply to: Huggiesunrise

Prove it

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you know how those conspiracies turned out to be true? Because evidence was provided that substantiated the conspiracies.

The conspiracies were there before the evidence. The evidence came later.

originally posted by: Huggiesunrise
The axiom of the free is that the burden of proof lies with the accuser.

But the main procession here on ats literally all it is devolved into name calling.

eventually it just happens either at the beginning of the thread or at the end when its necroed and no longer followed.

Thats why the site is a muck raking pit. the mods dont even clean up the bad threads they just clog the whole like some joke.

a vary bad joke.

So you're name calling at the entire site. you started out well with your first sentence and then...devolved.

a reply to: WeRpeons

What? That doesn't make any sense. If the conspiracies predated the evidence, then where did the stories come from? People don't guess things 100% correctly. If they are right about a suspicion it is because they were aided to that conclusion through evidence.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
What? That doesn't make any sense. If the conspiracies predated the evidence, then where did the stories come from? People don't guess things 100% correctly. If they are right about a suspicion it is because they were aided to that conclusion through evidence.

I think what was meant by "the conspiracies" was not the same thing as conspiracy theories. It was the conspiring acts themselves. The very definition of "conspiracy".


There is a difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy.


Evidences cannot pop out of nowhere, they exist because they are the traces of past events, past events that are in the case discussed here caused by the conspiracies. Conspiracy theories are not always based on evidences, but evidences of a conspiracy are always caused by a conspiracy.

a reply to: Develo

My entire point is that the reason these conspiracies are confirmed is BECAUSE of the compelling evidence uncovered about them. It shows that, yes conspiracies CAN be believed provided you provide to correct type of evidence. People who have faulty evidence, know they have faulty evidence. That's why they get so defensive when asked for it.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

What? That doesn't make any sense. If the conspiracies predated the evidence, then where did the stories come from? People don't guess things 100% correctly. If they are right about a suspicion it is because they were aided to that conclusion through evidence.

Conspiracies are formed by coincidences, witnesses, theories and circumstantial evidence that point to possible cover-ups. It's not until later when whistle blowers or documents are released that tangible evidence proves the conspiracies were in fact true.