September 11, 2001: Interesting and Less Talked About 911 Info!

Taken info from some other place. Thanks to TRUTHNOW88 for the info.


Here is a quick breakdown of the overall 9/11 event framework to get things started.

Flight 11/175 - Vigilant Guardian 01 via Amalgam Virgo 02 Framework (C-32B's - Live Fly Hijacking Exercise)

Flight 11
Drill: Vigilant Guardian 01 Via Amalgam Virgo 02 -Colombian Terrorist Hijacking Drill (scenario one)
Swap-Out: In-flight dynamic plane/plane swap-out occurs near Stewart Air NGB, Where Flight 11 and its drill participants Land Safely as the original planes flight path Is taken over by a USAF C-32B which continues the course into the North Tower.

Flight 175
Drill: Vigilant Guardian 01 Via Amalgam Virgo 02 -Colombian Terrorist Hijacking Drill (scenario two)
Swap-Out: In-flight dynamic plane/plane swap-out occurs near Stewart Air NGB, where flight 175 and its drill participants land safely as the original planes flight path is taken over by a USAF C-32B which continues the course into the South Tower.

Added Info:
There are 6 C-32B's in total, 4 stationed at McGuire AFB (Burlington County, New Jersey), the other 2 stationed at Stewart Air NGB (Newburgh, New York). C-32B's were created by the USAF in the late 90's by purchasing commercial Boeing 757's from the primary Colombian airline company Avianca, and converting them into military aircraft (this is the first time in history this was done by the way) and doing various communication & reinforcement upgrades to them (2 of which that were stationed at McGuire underwent additional modifications, and were the 2 planes used for the tower attack). On 9/11 and the days following, Stewart Air NGB is basically deserted (controlled environment) due to a drill that was being held the next day in Nevada called Operation Red Flag 01, which required a large number of pilots to be involved, most of which came from the eastern coastal area. The 2 extra modified C-32B's are to be involved in this Red Flag 01 drill, and on the morning of the attacks while on flight to the drill, they swap in place with flight 11 & 175 slightly to the North East of Stewart Air NGB, and are remotely guided into the towers as if they are the expected planes (with NASA patented nano-thermate used to cut the exterior columns in the required locations of each towers just before impact, allowing the planes to crash through the exterior columns with complete ease, giving the desired look they were aiming for). The participants that took place in precursor drill (Vigilant Guardian 01) were non the wiser, as their drill went down just as expected (failed Colombian hijacking exercise role-played by FBI agents, in a controlled live action environment), and they landed safely (at Stewart Air) and see their drill / event as completely unrelated to an attack in New York (due to various differences in theme / outcome). Once the drill participants are unloaded, the 2 planes (11/175) are fitted with remote guidance pods and are flown (unmanned) east over the North Atlantic (which is used to help draw attention away from flight 77 & 93 which are still active in their stage 2 roles) and a short time later, both 11 & 175 are shot down (with nobody inside them), directly in the path of Hurricane Erin in the North Atlantic (shot down by an official Combat Archer mission out of Florida). This real showdown is then covered up by a shutdown simulation in the same region of the ocean via a hijacked aspect of the drill Northern Vigilance 01 which was taking place just north of the location at the time (hijacked by Global Guardian 01 which overwrites the actual shutdown, and plays it off as NV01 simulation). Basically they used controlled planes (C-32B's) for the operation, and ONCE successful destroyed the original planes in question (11/175) and covered it up via a simulation / drill (the hurricane was to be used as an added fail-safe if needed).

Flight 93/77 Amalgam Warrior 01 via Amalgam Virgo 01 framework (MQM-107E's - Counter Cruise Missile Exercise)

Flight 93
Drill: Amalgam Warrior 01 Via Amalgam Virgo 01 -Large-Scale, Live-Fly, CINCNORAD Sponsored Air Defense Exercise (Surveillance, detection, Tracking, interception, Rules of engagement, Force generation, counter Cruise missile Operations) (scenario one)
Swap-Out: Flight 93 lands safely at Cleveland Airport, while its "visible" flight path is temporarily taken over via a false radar signature via Amalgam Warrior 01 using a hijacked Amalgam Virgo 01 Framework (which is being hacked by Global Guardian 01, the overarching controller). This false signature continues the wanted flight path over Northern Ohio. A prototype Raytheon MQM-107E Streaker drone is launched from McConnelsville, Ohio as part of a hijacked emergency Combat Archer mission (which is different then the official mission out of Florida) initiated by Global Guardian 01 (the first stage of the op being successful (C -32B swap outs + tower attacks) triggers this 2nd stage to be initiated). This first Streaker drone substitutes into flight 93's false radar signatures place and continues its path as if it were Flight 93. Near Shanksville it shoots a bottom mounted missile into the ground while doing a dive, and follows by cashing itself into the hole the missile created, causing the fairly laughable debris field we have all been told was flight 93.

Flight 77
Drill: Amalgam Warrior 01 Via Amalgam Virgo 01 -Large-Scale, Live-Fly, CINCNORAD Sponsored Air Defense Exercise (Surveillance, detection, Tracking, interception, Rules of engagement, Force generation, counter Cruise missile Operations) (scenario two)
Swap-Out: Flight 77 Lands Safely at Wright-Patterson AFB (Which is also basically deserted Due to Operation Red Flag 01). Flight 77's visible flight path is temporarily taken over via a false radar signature via Amalgam Warrior using a hijacked Amalgam Virgo 01 framework (which again is being hacked by Global Guardian). This false signature continues the wanted flight path over Southern Ohio. Another prototype Raytheon MQM-107E Streaker drone is launched from McConnelsville, Ohio (2 were launched from that location, around the same time that day, both of which were hacked via Global Guardian 01, and overwritten via the similar 2 drone Combat Archer mission launch out of Florida) as part of the same hijacked emergency Combat Archer mission initiated by Global Guardian 01. This Streaker drone substitutes into the false radar signatures place and continues its path as if it were Flight 77. The Streaker drone continues it's path towards the Pentagon, where it shoots a bottom mounted missile, creating a hole in the newly reinforced area of the pentagon , while the drone itself crashes into the building ~100feet to the left (which as planned is not reinforced) destroying itself and causing a bit of debris at the impact area. This aspect of the mission was technically a screw up, as they expected the drone to be able to penetrate at least the outer layer of the non reinforced wall to the left of the crash site (but it did not...). The idea was going to be that the first hole (missile) was the right engine entry point, and the second hole (drone, which never made its wanted hole) was going to be the left engine entry point). Because of this miscalculation on their end, they ended up having to go with the much weaker "the plane folded into 1 hole" story.

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Added Info:
Shortly after Landing Flight 93 & 77 (North & Southwest Ohio) Take off again, masked as the 2 C-32B (which crashed into the towers). They then head over to Stewart Air NGB (flagged as VIP military flights) where they land and let off the drill participants. Then next day the 2 planes are repainted & retagged and stored at Stewart Air NGB in place of their 2 C-32B (They then give McGuire their 2 c-32B's in place of the ones they crashed into the towers). These 2 planes (93 & 77 at Stewart Air) sit for years without much action (they play switch-a-roo (shared call signs) between the other 4 C-32B's, so that the 2 planes in question never actually move). In 2004 DHS / FEST then purchases these 2 planes from the USAF (which again are flight 93 & 77...), and since then have put them through further cosmetic modifications and are flying them around still today, mainly for very secretive overseas missions or as HIGH LEVEL VIP transports (these 2 planes are specifically referred to as the Black C-32B's due to their extreme elusiveness over the years).

Anyway the way I see it, the entire event was controlled by a CoG Armageddon Drill called Global Guardian 01, which used MANY different hacked elements (drill security was purposefully set to the absolute lowest level on that day for a reason) of live or set to be run drills to pull off the operation (almost 50 in total). The entire operation was ran from 3 in-air E-4B's (1 assigned to each element of the event (11/175, 93 & 77)) as well as a StratCom command bunker via Global Guardian 01 (and building 7 for the tower elements of the attack, with Tripod II creating the post-attack command center at Pier 29), all of which were getting their orders from the top brass via CoG / StratCom. This allowed them to pull the event off with many different levels of fail safes, the last one being, the ability to blame a foreign country by saying we were hacked (because technically every live aspect of that day (except for tower control) was done via a hacked element of a live, scheduled or emergency drill, so it would be somewhat easy for them to toss the blame anywhere they wanted in a worst case scenario, with a bit of minor script adjustment shortly after the fact (which was not needed)).
Also the majority of the calls said to be made from the 9/11 planes are actually from a DOT Dynamic Terrorist hijacking Drill in late August 2001, and were replayed and relayed to the expected ground channels / cell towers by the 3 tailing E-4Bs via Global Guardian.

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And here is a bit more context/info about the Pentagon attack & its decoy.

A 3rd 3-C2B which was also on it's way to Nevada to take part in Operation Red Flag 01 (from Andrews AFB) was called back after the tower attacks took place. This allowed the c-32B to act as a decoy for the MQM-107E which was headed towards the pentagon at the same time. The returning C-32B was used on the North side of the CITGO gas station to act as a decoy (focal point) for any witnesses in the area at the time. This C-32B flies it flight path towards the pentagon on the North side of the CITGO, making a minor height adjustment at the last second, to narrowly miss hitting the building, flying just over the pentagon and is then blocked from view by the smoke/explosion (from the MQM-107E) which happens at the exact same time as it flies over the building. This airplane then continues its path and turns slightly right and heads towards Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (appearing as if it were a normal commercial flight making an emergency landing to eye witnesses on the other side of the pentagon), but then raises it altitude and turns slightly more to head towards it original destination (Andrews AFB). For any witness that saw the crash, it would appear that this large airplane did in fact hit the pentagon (when in reality it flew over it). Meanwhile, a Raytheon MQM-107E has already taken over flight 77s flight path (during the switch-over from NORAD Amalgam Warrior 01 to StramCom Amalgam Virgo 01) follows a slightly different flight path and flies to the South of the CITGO gas station, shooting a small bottom mounted missile into the pentagon and crashing into the building ~100 feet to the left. This MQM-107 drone+missile hit takes place from the South side of the CITGO gas station, as everyone is looking to the North at the focal point C-32B (which is many times larger, louder & slower then a MQM-107E drone, which would mainly go unnoticed), and the drone impacts the building at the same time that the C-32B flys over the exact same area (as they fly towards the same point in a V flightpath), appearing like the large plane was what actually hit the building, which again isn't true but was used to help back the official wanted script surrounding that event.

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Here is a quick summery of some of the primary 9/11 drills used, and their owners, switch-overs & intended roles.

Vigilant Guardian 01 (NORAD) & Amalgam Virgo 02 (StratCom) = Tower attack = VG01 being the 2 decoy/phase 1 hijacks (pre swap-out via live fly planes), AV02 being the live overlap (post swap-out via live fly C-32B planes) which then crash into the towers.

Amalgam Warrior 01 (NORAD) & Amalgam Virgo 01 (StratCom) & Combat Archer (emergency launch in response to the tower attacks) = pentagon & shanksville = AW01 being the 2 decoy/phase 1 hijacks (pre-swapout via false signatures/simulation blips), Combat Archer replace blips at switchover points and takes over flight path (post-swapout live fly MQM-107E Streaker Drones) and crash in Shanksville & at the Pentagon (using AV01 MSEL for the pentagon element).

Global Guardian 01 (StramCom) = Primary event controller = CoG/StratCom ran via 3 in-air E-4B's, each tailing an element of the attack (1 for the flight 77/175 element, 1 for the flight 93 element, 1 for the flight 77 element). Prior to swap-out they simply realy the needed "phone calls" from the same location as the supposid hijacked planes triggering the event/response. Global Guardian then takes over an even bigger role post-swap out, by live-fly hijacking the post-swap out elements (which added plausable denyability for the pre-swap out drills aka Vigilant Guardian & Amalgam Warrior, both which were NORAD controlled).

Northern Vigilance (NORAD) = Position control & shootdown cover = moved a large amount of fighters from the East Coast and moved them to Northern Canada creating a "gap" for the NYC attack elements. This drill was a live-fly vs simulation attacker vs defender drill, and just minutes after the fighters had shot all their ammo as part of the drill, the first tower attack took place (meaning they had to go rearm themselves before trying to help, allowing for almost a 2 hour gap before a fighter was able to respond to the attacks in that area).

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Tripod II (FEMA) = Tower Response (phase 1, prep) = FEMA biological attack drill allowing them to soft-lock down the area prior to an event even taking place. This allowed FEMA to take over the ground zero scene from literally the first second of the attack onwards. This drill also gave them the backup command centre at pier 29 that would be needed after Tower 7 (tower demolition controller) was no longer needed (and set to be destroyed).
Added Note: Tripod II was the 2nd part of a 2 part exercise series, the first part (dry run, ran out of WTC7) was ran on May 11, 2001 by the NYC OEM, FDNY, NYPD, FEMA and the FBI and was called Red Ex 01 (Recognition, Evaluation, and Decision-Making Exercise). According to OEM Director Richard Sheirer, “Operation RED Ex provided a proving ground and a great readiness training exercise for the many challenges the city routinely faces, such as weather events, heat emergencies, building collapses, fires, and public safety and health issues.” ( [link toLink). In his prepared testimony before the 9/11 Commission, Bernard Kerik later states: “The City, through its OEM, had coordinated plans for many types of emergencies; and those plans were tested frequently.” The types of emergencies they prepared for, he states, included “building collapses” and “plane crashes.” ( link to www.9-11commission.gov )

Timely Alert II = Tower Response (phase 2, backup/delayed) = After the towers came down, a large amount of the first responders were killed, incapacitated, or had their equipment crushed. Because of this Timely Alert II was setup to provide a "delayed" 2nd-wave response via responders from New Jersey which allowed for the perfect amount of time so that they would arrive just after 2nd collapse takes place, allowing them to help FEMA lockdown/cleanup the initial scene.

The basic jist is NORAD ran all of the pre-swap out elements via several different overlapping official drills (phase 1, Cover), and StratCom ran the post-swap out elements via hijacked overlaps for each (phase 2, Attack), while FEMA handled the post-attack lockdowns of each active scene (Phase 3, Response).

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And here is a bit of info on Canada's role in on 9/11 and how the hijacked StratCom elements were able to reach their targets without being shot down.

On the morning of 9/11, Canada was in charge of defense of American airspace stretching up the East Coast to Tennessee, up through the Dakotas to the Canadian border, including Boston, New York, Washington, D.C., and Chicago (via the "Blue Force" (defender) element of Vigilant Guardian 01 , the "Red Force" (attacker) element being controlled by NORAD (hijacked via StratCom)) and Canada remained in primary control of defense of this critical airspace until just after the 2nd tower was hit.

NEADS was the secondary defenders of this same airspace, but was being overloaded with over 12 different hijackings (a mix of live fly hijacking exercises, simulated hijacking exercises, and "potentially" real hijackings) none of which they could differentiate between until after the 2nd tower strike. And it wouldn't of really mattered anyways since almost every single fighter jet that could of intercepted the "hijackings" were out of position on that day as well (thanks to the convenient position control via Northern Vigilance 01 & Operation Red Flag) which sent a large amount of fighters to Northern Canada/Alaska and Nevada during the hours of the attack. The 2 fighter jets that were able to first response (again not until after the 2nd tower was hit) were then sent out over the Atlantic Ocean while the pentagon got "struck" (this is something which is written off as a bad decision due to all the confusion but the irony is they were going out there to chase the "real fight 11" which appeared briefly on radar before being detonated in the North Atlantic).

The 3rd set of eyes in regards of air defense of this region was the National Reconnaissance Office, which on the morning of 9/11 was having a "plane into government building" drill which was to simulate a corporate jet crashing into one of their campus "towers". During the first tower attack a large majority of the NRO staff were standing on their lawn as part of the simulation, and even after returning to their stations had a large delay in response due to the similarities to their drill and actual real-world events taking place at the same time in NYC (they assumed all the mass commotion upon return was just part of their still-ongoing dynamic drill). NRO wasn't able to get their # in order till about the same time as NEADS, which is around the same time that the official drills and artificial radar blips were removed from their tracking screens (at this point both towers were already hit, and the 2 MQM-107Es had already taken flight 93's & 77's flight paths and no longer required artificial blip markers for the switch-overs).

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Here is a bit of info about the various suspicious vans & Israelis in regards to 9/11.

September 11, 2001: MULTIPLE Suspicious Van Related Explosions/Events Reported On 9/11/01, But Never Talked About Again After
1)
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www.google.ca...@40.7114746,-74.0132635,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c25a19881b8 3fb:0x979b0a4fe0492ce6
Event: Van explosion inside WTC buildings (the 2nd suspicious van being discussed is #2 below).
2)
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Location: Trinity & Liberty
www.google.ca...&%20Liberty%20St,%20New%20York,%20NY%2010006,%20USA/@40.7096803,-74.0116753,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1! 1s0x89c25a17578d7a29:0x18c6842adb8adcf9
Event: Van with mural of a plane crashing into the WTC on the side, with a small remote control drone found in the back.

3)
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Location: George Washington Bridge
www.google.ca...@40.8525238,-73.9559132,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c2f6bdce18ab07:0x43e0227030fb8c72
Event: Van stopped by police and found to be full of explosives.

4. I also remember a news clip talking about an explosion just outside of the NY supreme court building at around the same time as one of the towers was collapsing, but I was unable to re-find the clip for that one.
Location: NY Supreme Court Building
www.google.ca...@40.714303,-74.001476,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x660aeef42acf9b9b


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Here is a bit more info about a few of the motives behind the 9/11 false flag attack (there were many more then this...), and Obama's & Clinton's indirect connects to the 9/11 events.

Were specific companies in the World Trade Center targeted for attack on September 11, 2001?

Marsh & McLennan, Cantor Fitzgerald/CO2e.com/eSpeed and Aon Corp were engaged in an economic war game scenario with the Naval War College on 9/11. The game involved the use of carbon emissions trading software.

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Cantor Fitzgerald/CO2e.com/eSpeed held the patent link to www.faqs.org on software which would later be used in trillions of dollars' worth of carbon emissions trading. The Carbon Disclosure Project (CDP), "a special project of Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisers, with US IRS 501(c)(3) charitable status, with the[alleged] sole purpose of providing a co-ordinating secretariat for the participating funders and investors, in order to increase economic global awareness of risks and opportunities of carbon emissions' consequences on the climate", was launched on December 4, 2000 at 10 Downing Street in London by UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and UK Secretary of State for International Development Clare Short. The CDP "gathers 534 investors with a combined US$64 trillion in assets under management, in order to increase economic global awareness of risks and opportunities of carbon emissions' [alleged] consequences on the climate".

Carlton Bartels, CEO of Cantor’s CO2e.com, invented and held the patent on the computer-based system for simulated automated carbon trading. Bartels was operating this simulated game; it is alleged that his simulation administrator codes were stolen and the game was hacked into, which took the game from a simulation to a live game.. Significantly, Bartels had also participated in a "greenhouse gas emissions trading simulation" hosted by Climate Change Central in Calgary, Alberta on September 5-6, 2001.

Were Marsh & McLennan, Cantor Fitzgerald/CO2e.com/eSpeed and Aon Corp destroyed to eliminate the competition in a future multi-trillion dollar carbon trading market?

In 2000, the Joyce Foundation provided a grant to Richard Sandor and Northwestern University’s Kellogg School of Management to develop a competing carbon trading software. At the time, Barack Obama was on the board of directors for the foundation. A second grant was made in 2001 and eventually led to the birth of the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), the only emissions reduction and trading system for all six greenhouse gases and the only operational cap and trade system in North America.
[link to www.abeldanger.net

Side Note: The South Tower had the Fuji Bank Target (located on floors 79-82), which had Clinton's Arkansas Development Fund hosted by the bank and in WTC7 was the office of the Eldorado Task Force, which was holding the evidence of the ongoing investigations.

When it was launched in 2003, the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) became the world's first carbon-emissions trading company, equipped to regulate all transactions made under cap-and-trade energy plans designed to restrict and tax greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions produced by U.S. companies.

The earliest roots of CCX can be traced back to 2000, when Dr. Richard Sandor – an economist, a research professor at the Northwestern University, and the former head of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange – began to study the feasibility of initiating a cap-and-trade system in the United States. At that time, Sandor owned a firm called Environmental Financial Products (EFP). He also knew Illinois state senator Barack Obama, who, in addition to his legislative duties, was a board member of the Chicago-based Joyce Foundation, which had long been a major donor to radical environmental groups and causes. In 2001, Obama helped steer a $347,600 Joyce Foundation grant to Sandor's EFP. The foundation's president, Paula DiPerna, stated that this grant was intended to “suppor[t] the design of a pilot phase for a carbon dioxide emissions trading market, called the Chicago Climate Exchange.”

In August 2001, Carlton Bartels, a partner at Cantor Fitzgerald and the chief executive officer of a company named CO2e.com, filed for a patent on the software technology that would eventually equip CCX to properly monitor the trading of residential carbon credits. But before he could secure the patent, Bartels was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. His widow subsequently located a buyer for the software technology: Franklin Raines, CEO of Fannie Mae, the mortgage-lending giant whose practice of purchasing risky mortgages from banks – and then bundling and selling them to its investors as mortgage-backed securities – would eventually send the U.S. housing market into steep decine. Raines not only oversaw that practice for six years, but he also manipulated profit-and-loss reports so as to enable himself and other Fannie Mae executives to earn gargantuan bonuses – nearly $100 million for Raines alone – even as the mortgage lender was imploding. Raines would eventually serve as the conduit through which Bartels' software would find its way to CCX.
link to discoverthenetworks
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And a good interview with Kevin Ryan (Former employee of Underwriters laboratories) that includes some more interesting info.

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And here is a good breakdown of the controlled demolition of the towers, done by Gordon Ross.


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And just for #s-and-giggles I am going to also add the 5 hour documentary "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor" for anyone that hasn't yet seen it (doesn't cover everything but does cover a lot of good details still).

"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor" is a 5 hour [3 part] documentary that summarizes 12 years of public debate on 9/11. While aimed primarily at a general, uninformed audience, the film also contains some new findings that may be of interest to advanced researchers.


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Excellent report, however, darn it, none of your U-Tube vids are working.

S & F for you!

originally posted by: NightFlight
Excellent report, however, darn it, none of your U-Tube vids are working.

S & F for you!

Sorry but below each video is a substitute https link.
Will be editing the posts.

originally posted by: warthog911

originally posted by: NightFlight
Excellent report, however, darn it, none of your U-Tube vids are working.

S & F for you!

Sorry but below each video is a substitute https link.
Will be editing the posts.

Warthog911, I am the original poster of the article from the other site (which will remain nameless as I know you conspiracy forums don't like playing nice with eachother!). Anyways I appreciate you helping to share this info with other like minded people!

originally posted by: TruthNow88

originally posted by: warthog911

originally posted by: NightFlight
Excellent report, however, darn it, none of your U-Tube vids are working.

S & F for you!

Sorry but below each video is a substitute https link.
Will be editing the posts.

Warthog911, I am the original poster of the article from the other site (which will remain nameless as I know you conspiracy forums don't like playing nice with eachother!). Anyways I appreciate you helping to share this info with other like minded people!

Just doing my Job. This article is THE THE best explanation of what happened on 9/11. I do not know from where you got this stuff but do stay here and try to answer other Ats'ers questions. I woke up on the 9/11 fraud in 2005 and have only watched couple of 9/11 documentaries. I have only started to watch the documentary: 9/11 The new pearl harbour.

Again thank you and all the credits go to you. (I apologise if i get the ATS point though lol). Do reply here.



Edit: the original thread has been deleted on the other site so this is the main thread now. I recommend ats'ers to backup the data asap.

a reply to: warthog911

Hey just a quick correction to my post, I didn't mean to put "B" after each mention of C-32's (as some of the ones involved were actually C-32A's).
Flight 11 = C-32B
Flight 175 = C-32A
Pentagon Decoy = C-32A

Also on 9/11 there were 6 C-32's total (2 C-32B via McGuire / 4 C-32A via Andrews AFB / Stewart Air NGB) with 2 more C-32A's being completed in 2010.

I just wanted to make those quick corrections (as I didn't mean to add B after some of them, and got a little carried away).

But anyways... wanna know something funny? This info has been deleted and got me banned 4x from another popular (to remain nameless) forum... you know the thing you just copied this post from? well that original post is now gone, they deleted it again for the 4th time just a few mins ago. Such a joke!

Anyways I just find it hilarious to see one of the top conspiracy forums on the web mass censoring first hand... whatever...

Since you are interested, here is another addition I added about 30 seconds before my other original thread got removed just a few mins ago.

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And here is a bit more interesting info related to the C-32's.

Lets start by looking into the C-32's a little more and find out who their owners are.

C-32A's
The contract was awarded for the C-32 in August 1996. By using commercial off-the-shelf acquisition practices, a new record has been set from contract award to aircraft delivery: less than two years. The C-32 is the first military aircraft ever acquired in this manner. The 89th Airlift Wing acquired the first of four aircraft in late June 1998. A further two were acquired in 2010 (c/n 25044 & 28160), with both having been used previously as commercial aircraft.
en.wikipedia.org...

C-32B's
The 227th Special Operations Flight at McGuire Air Force Base, N.J., has two modified C-32B aircraft supporting specialist worldwide airlift operations... These (2) are the only U.S Air Force C-32B in existence although both aircraft have been associated with a multiplicity of registrations.
en.wikipedia.org...

So there are multiple C-32's that have different owners, and at the time it was admitted that 2 C-32B's are attributed to the USAF via McGuire AFB (the ones that are known for being "associated with a multiplicity of registrations" and since 2004 have been heavily tied to "FEST").

So again let me get this straight... TWO C-32B right? Well... each year the Air National Guard releases an official document called the "Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities Book", which happens to mention the infamous C-32B's. What I find really interesting is the following...

In 2014 & 2013 the snippit related to the C-32B's reads as follows...

2014 Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities (Air National Guard)
The C-32B provides dedicated rapid response worldwide airlift to the Department of Defense, through the Commander, United States Special Operations Command, in support of the United States Government crisis response activities, both domestically and abroad. The 150th Special Operations Squadron of the New Jersey Air National Guard operates the C-32B from Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ.
www.ngaus.org...

2013 Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities (Air National Guard)
The C-32B provides dedicated rapid response worldwide airlift to the Department of Defense, through the Commander, United States Special Operations Command, in support of the United States Government crisis response activities, both domestically and abroad. The 150th Special Operations Squadron of the New Jersey Air National Guard operates the C-32B from Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ.
ngrcc-hunter.house.gov...

But what is interesting is in the 2012 version there was a small addition which was removed and not included in the 2013 & 2014 versions...

2012 Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities (Air National Guard)
The C-32B provides dedicated rapid response worldwide airlift to the Department of Defense, through the Commander, United States Special Operations Command, in support of the United States Government crisis response activities, both domestically and abroad. The 150th Special Operations Squadron of the New Jersey Air National Guard operates the C-32B from Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ and is the only U.S Air Force C-32B.
www.ng.mil...

Hmm so now its 1 USAF C-32B huh? And did you notice that to? It's a dead link! Well interestingly enough this same year (2012) the official doc for no reason what so ever was taken down shortly after being posted and is no longer available at the official source.
Way Back Machine: web.archive.org...://www.ng.mil/ll/Publications/2012%20Mod%20Book%20Master%20-%20Online.pdf

But go figure, older versions of the annual doc are still up and available online without issue!

2011 Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities (Air National Guard)
ngrcc-hunter.house.gov...
%20Requirements.pdf

What a coincidence!

Well the basic jist is in 2012 they (McGuire/FEST) got sick of trying to cover for the missing C-32B's (that was swapped into flight 11's place and destroyed on 9/11 but was thought to still be around due to being "associated with a multiplicity of registrations") and in 2012 they quietly switched from the USAF openly having 2 C-32B's (prior to 2012) to having 1 C-32B (after 2012) without having to do much explaining about where exactly it went (if you follow plane watcher forums you will also notice that only 1 of the 2 planes has been photographed in 10+ years... the other one is said to exist yet magically noone has been lucky enough to physically see it!). Well after this official switch from having 2 C-32B's to 1 C-32B, they then removed the 2012 doc from the official archive after being published (so less people would be able to possibly notice), and going forward no longer needed to include the small but crucial switch from having 2 USAF C-32B's to only having 1 USAF C-32B. This was done to cover one of the final small but highly crucial loose end in regards to the 9/11 op. It seems they waited 10 years+ to do so, so it would be that much less likely anyone would notice... Nice try f**kers!

a reply to: TruthNow88

Thank you for your work and a F&S for OP . This info about the swapped plain theory is way more credible now with these smoking guns .I don't know who invented that way-back machine but it is gold for uncovering the pea under their shells . ETA ...welcome to ATS TN88

a reply to: warthog911

There is SO much wrong in this post that it's not funny. The two aircraft in NYC were 767s. There is no way to mistake a 757 for a 767 if you know your aircraft. The fuselages are totally different. It would have been noticed immediately.

C-32's were created by the USAF in the late 90's by purchasing commercial Boeing 757's from the primary Colombian airline company Avianca, and converting them into military aircraft (this is the first time in history this was done by the way) and doing various communication & reinforcement upgrades to them

Wrong. They bought two aircraft that were former commercial aircraft, and they weren't bought until 2010 (c/n 25044 and 28160) The others were bought as "off the shelf" aircraft, which allowed them to go from purchase to service in two years. Two aircraft operate with AFSOC in Florida. The Air Force bought the C-32A as if they were a commercial airline, instead of requiring them to be specially built, and then modified them to military standards.

There are no C-32s stationed at either Stewart AFB or McGuire AFB. Six of the 8 C-32s are stationed at Andrews AFB and are used for VIP transport by the 89th Airlift Wing, which flies Air Force One, and all the other VIP transports the Air Force flies. Stewart AFB at the time of 9/11 was a C-5 base in New York (105th Airlift Wing). McGuire AFB is a mobility base in NJ, both KC-10s and C-17s (305th AMW). The 227th Special Operations Flight didn't have C-32s on 9/11. AFSOC didn't get them until well after 9/11.

originally posted by: TruthNow88
So there are multiple C-32's that have different owners, and at the time it was admitted that 2 C-32B's are attributed to the USAF via McGuire AFB (the ones that are known for being "associated with a multiplicity of registrations" and since 2004 have been heavily tied to "FEST").

So again let me get this straight... TWO C-32B right? Well... each year the Air National Guard releases an official document called the "Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities Book", which happens to mention the infamous C-32B's. What I find really interesting is the following...

The C-32B didn't come into existence until 2010. So how was it used on 9/11? On 9/11 the only C-32 aircraft were stationed at Andrews AFB in Maryland, not at McGuire, and none have been based at Stewart.

originally posted by: warthog911
Edit: the original thread has been deleted on the other site so this is the main thread now. I recommend ats'ers to backup the data asap.

What a joke, they deleted the post, but couldn't ban me cuz I paid for a membership this month, so they removed my paid membership (legal theft anyone?) only 25% into the term and then banned me once it was removed. LOL. At least from that I was able to figure out the specific element they don't seem to like (which is too much focus on the 3 locations, Stewart Air NGB, McGuire AFB & Andrews AFB in regards to 9/11... touchy subject anyone?).

Whatever... pathetic!

a reply to: TruthNow88

Except for the fact that two of the three didn't have C-32s on 9/11, and one still doesn't.

Please, explain how you mistake:



Which the C-32 is based on.

For:



You can clearly see the fuselage is completely different, and it's quite easy to tell the two apart.

originally posted by: Zaphod58

originally posted by: TruthNow88
So there are multiple C-32's that have different owners, and at the time it was admitted that 2 C-32B's are attributed to the USAF via McGuire AFB (the ones that are known for being "associated with a multiplicity of registrations" and since 2004 have been heavily tied to "FEST").

So again let me get this straight... TWO C-32B right? Well... each year the Air National Guard releases an official document called the "Weapons Systems Modernization Priorities Book", which happens to mention the infamous C-32B's. What I find really interesting is the following...

The C-32B didn't come into existence until 2010. So how was it used on 9/11? On 9/11 the only C-32 aircraft were stationed at Andrews AFB in Maryland, not at McGuire, and none have been based at Stewart.

Not correct (there were 8 C-32's total, 6 created pre-9/11, 2 created post-9/11). In 1998 The 89th Airlift Wing which is based at Joint Base Andrews got its 1st of 4 C-32A's delivered (the other 3 being were delivered over the next few years). In 2010 they then received another 2 C-32A's (making the total C-32A's at 6, 4 pre-9/11 + 2 post-9/11).

As for 2 C-32B's not being built until 2010, maybe you can explain the countless plane watcher forums with pictures of them going back to the early 2000's for starters?

Here is a official image showing the small crater claimed to be a passenger plane crash on 911 in Shanksville Penn. Flight 93 was said to have crashed here when its obvious one didnt. This image was taken shortly after the crash before any investigation took place

a reply to: TruthNow88

There are 8 C-32s total that were delivered. The original order for C-32As was for four aircraft. Two 757-200s were bought for the FEST team, and converted to C-32Bs for their use. I may be off on the B purchase, but that doesn't change that there are only a small number of them. The C-32Bs, are the ones for the FEST team. The only difference between a C-32A and a C-32B is the interior. The A is a VIP transport, the B has seating for a 75 person FEST team.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Plain vanished into the dirt lol ....????

a reply to: the2ofusr1

Not the first time it happened. Several planes that crashed at high speed/high angles into soft ground sank several feet underground, and were found anywhere from 3-5 feet or more underground.

Back to ground zero-- How the buildings fell, instead of why.

Whole nations have fallen but don't look there, look at two fallen towers.