interesting lights/explosions over donetsk, ukraine.

wasn't sure where to post this, as i'm not sure what it is. it sounds like explosions but the duration of the light seems longer than normal.

the first is from liveleak (link as i don't know how to embed LL video) which was uploaded today. the second is off youtube from 5 days ago.

an interesting spectacle. anyone know if/what type of explosions these could be? or if they're not explosions.

www.liveleak.com...



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a reply to: RoScoLaz4

It`s phosphor.

UAF have been using that and cluster bomb earlier too.

Well I was gonna say it's very strange and I have no clue.


But if BornAgain is right, that's an International Law breach, surely!

a reply to: RoScoLaz4
Looks like fuel burning up, maybe with the explosion being the pressure release?

Hard to tell, interesting though.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Here`s a report from earlier about the use of cluster ammunition...

Ukraine: Widespread Use of Cluster Munitions

Shelling of cities which has been going are also being stated as Crimes Against Humanity

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

thank you

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

But if BornAgain is right, that's an International Law breach, surely!

WP is not banned except when used against civilians. And is not an issue when used as illumination or smoke.
en.wikipedia.org...

From my experience WP burns bright white, the better video on LL clearly shows a blue hue.
Looks more like illumination rounds to me.

a reply to: stosh64

Nice one Stosh...

Says its banned from use in Civilian Areas as well... Which I guess most of the Ukraine Conflict is...


But it does seem if this is WP, it's being used as an illumination strategy rather than an incendiary attack.


Thanks for the info.

a reply to: stosh64

From your link...

There has been multiple reports about Ukraine using White phosphorus against the rebels and civilians in Ukranian Civil war.

It could have been some other type of incendiary weapon.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: stosh64

Nice one Stosh...

Says its banned from use in Civilian Areas as well... Which I guess most of the Ukraine Conflict is...


But it does seem if this is WP, it's being used as an illumination strategy rather than an incendiary attack.


Thanks for the info.

My pleasure Charlie, I owed you info anyway

Kiev never used white phosphorus Gaza war-style, but other incendiaries - HRW Director

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: stosh64

From your link...

There has been multiple reports about Ukraine using White phosphorus against the rebels and civilians in Ukranian Civil war.

It could have been some other type of incendiary weapon.

Yep, I noticed that. Not debating the how or whys of it, just posting what the int. laws say on it.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Thanks BornAgain, that's a damning report.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: stosh64

From your link...

There has been multiple reports about Ukraine using White phosphorus against the rebels and civilians in Ukranian Civil war.

It could have been some other type of incendiary weapon.

You already nailed it. Nothing looks like Willy Pete at night.

By the way, McCain admits to cluster munitions use in Ukraine… blames himself for it, lol.

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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
But if BornAgain is right, that's an International Law breach, surely!

What does the latest US puppet government care about laws and crimes

This century is a US led century, you get what you pay for