Ever Read your APP Ts&Cs? This should teach you to not Skip.

originally posted by: Dabrazzo


And yeah take super user control of your phone and deny permissions to everything.

Or, just don't get a smart phone.

I agree everyone is entitled to a degree of privacy (barring criminal matters, etc - let's not go there) but from my perspective it's not really apathy, at least not on my part. I'm aware that there is a chance that my Angry Birds may be Spying Angry Birds, but, at least for me, I really don't have anything to hide.

Now, as cliche as that sounds, let me qualify it with this statement: I still prefer that my private business remains private, but let's be realistic....If you're living an honest life and not pulling any shenanigans (take that however you want) then I think you can relax a little. I may have the odd fight at home with the gf or juicy conversation while my phone sits at the bedside table, but really, do you think the things your saying are any different or more "spy-worthy" than your neighbours or someone else? Likely not. Most of the spy types who may snoop through everyones device will quickly move on. You and I simply aren't interesting enough for them to spy on.

In short, if someone at the ABC government agency wants to spy on me, knock yourself out. I have fun playing the odd Angry Birds game or a few minutes of Clash of Clans with my kid, and to me anyways, I'm not about to sacrifice my funor enjoyment of my life because of the miniscule chance someone may turn on my phone camera and see my bedroom ceiling or my glazed over look because I can't kill that damn pig. Anyone who thinks they're interesting enough to be spied on for more than a fleeting moment is either arrogant, has a paranoid personality disorder, or has something to hide, and that last group should be tracked down, hunted, and dealt with.

a reply to: Shakawkaw

I dont personaly see anything wrong with a smart phone I use several for all sorts, mostly as media remotes I just do not allow apps onto them that will send predator drones to my house.

Every single thing you buy has terms and conditions which you agree to. And with most of those items, it's the last few pages of an instruction manual that you didn't read. In fact, you never saw the T&C's until after you bought the item and opened up the packaging.

For some reason when it's Candy Crush, T&C's are bad evil and scary. For your toaster, they were ignored completely. Paranio running wild!

originally posted by: usernameconspiracy
Every single thing you buy has terms and conditions which you agree to. And with most of those items, it's the last few pages of an instruction manual that you didn't read. In fact, you never saw the T&C's until after you bought the item and opened up the packaging.

For some reason when it's Candy Crush, T&C's are bad evil and scary. For your toaster, they were ignored completely. Paranio running wild!

If you found out that part of the Ts&Cs of your toaster was that the owners of the toaster company could access your internet browsing history and listen to your conversations without your permission.... you'd think you would be a little narked.... Would you not?

Korg.

Stuff everyone needs to realize and exactly why i root my devices and run very few apps.

originally posted by: Korg Trinity

originally posted by: usernameconspiracy
Every single thing you buy has terms and conditions which you agree to. And with most of those items, it's the last few pages of an instruction manual that you didn't read. In fact, you never saw the T&C's until after you bought the item and opened up the packaging.

For some reason when it's Candy Crush, T&C's are bad evil and scary. For your toaster, they were ignored completely. Paranio running wild!

If you found out that part of the Ts&Cs of your toaster was that the owners of the toaster company could access your internet browsing history and listen to your conversations without your permission.... you'd think you would be a little narked.... Would you not?

Korg.

Another reason I won't be buying the new iToast.

a reply to: stolencar18

While I do nothing of intrest, I am alarmed.
Martin Niemöller said
"
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

It has been rewritten several ways but the point is the same views of who is 'interesting' can change. You liking trucks may one day piss someone off.

That being said I think privacy will be a thing of the past in the future. And yes I use an iPhone. And it has a feature where you grant permissions to apps. Like contact list, location, and mic.

One more reason when my phone broke a year ago, i never replaced it.
To this day i still have no cell phone of any kind, and honestly i dont miss it one bit.

a reply to: Korg Trinity

I'm not going to say its apathy, to many people don't see the harm. Not many realize that "free" requires me to know everything about you. Most see it give and take. In return for using the app for free (plus ads which doesnt make it free), they collect your information to sell to a third party (selling your information to another company that doesn't develop the app).

The biggest culprit are those wonderful animated backgrounds. Some want access to everything on the phone, literally. Contacts, camera, even you recent calls list.

Apple is the worst, but that's my personal opinion. With a new iphone to create an account they wanted a credit card number and wouldn't let me sign up without one. I tossed it and never looked back.

a reply to: Korg Trinity

Good video. I once downloaded the Facebook app, but never installed it because of all of the permissions it wanted. I just use the web browser on my tablet for Facebook.

And I tend to stir clear of any app that violates my security. Can't believe some of the permissions the normal person gives to these apps.

originally posted by: pryingopen3rdeye
it is pretty unreasonable though to expect everyone who wants your app to first read 2000 characters per app, few have time for that.

in an age of increasing convenience why must we make freedom of privacy more and more inconvenient?

Because they're doing it on purpose? They WANT to destroy the concept of common courtesy and decency so that no one is able to trust anyone. Ever. In order to control people completely, they must be afraid of absolutely everything. Once that's done, such people are much easier to manipulate. When you realize there's absolutely nobody you can trust with anything, you will soon realize that you're in a pickle. You will eventually have to compromise somewhere. And guess who will be waiting for you to be your closest confidant?

originally posted by: BrianFlanders

originally posted by: pryingopen3rdeye
it is pretty unreasonable though to expect everyone who wants your app to first read 2000 characters per app, few have time for that.

in an age of increasing convenience why must we make freedom of privacy more and more inconvenient?

Because they're doing it on purpose? They WANT to destroy the concept of common courtesy and decency so that no one is able to trust anyone. Ever. In order to control people completely, they must be afraid of absolutely everything. Once that's done, such people are much easier to manipulate. When you realize there's absolutely nobody you can trust with anything, you will soon realize that you're in a pickle. You will eventually have to compromise somewhere. And guess who will be waiting for you to be your closest confidant?

Korg.