The wolves and the sheep (not sheeples)

a reply to: johndeere2020

And then you blew your religion conspiracy angle in this post.

So now which is it, religion or society?

It's ok Ketsuko, you are still a sister.
Blah on these men who think you have to do the stereotypical thing. I play video games myself, because the only real video games for women usually turn out to be the Sims or Simcity. Maybe that's why I invest so much emotion into my Sims that when one of them dies, I cry, except for the ones I toss into the pool without a ladder to get out or drop a satellite on their heads.

But really, I do even in a video game nurture my Sims, until they become old, cranky and useless. Then they come back as ghosts and haunt the young.

But perhaps the OP will be reminded that Victoria's Secret commercials are not made for women, they are for men. And all those cheerleaders at games and the women who hold the cards at boxing matches...not for women, those are for men to look at, because the stereotypical woman like the OP suggests is a "trophy wife" and those men still cheat on their trophy wives.

THAT kind of woman is a trophy and they know it as well as the men. But she gladly accepts that role, because she might not have much else going on for her.

a reply to: johndeere2020

We do not need a study to know men eat more than women.

You try to relate the animal nature we all have from other incarnations to just two animals.

That is false cause we are all animals in previous incarnations as well as plants.

That is how one builds the code to become human.

I was reading and I thought of calling the OP a "pussy"cat then I found out she was a woman. I have been forced into psych wards about 10 or 12 times. There are some "gay" men that are considered mentally ill because of their lifestyle. I have been sexually attacked in my sleep by the "gays". Do you like fishsticks? Do you like to put them in your mouth? I was injected with a syringe full of lemon scented bleach and the first night I slept in psych my roommate woke up with all these white bleach stains around his mouth. Men who get too feminine get all girly and act like girls. I have seen a lot of effeminine men in the hospital and the answer isn't get in touch with your feminine side it's don't be an A hole and respect the rights of the weaker sex. I don't mean anything by that I just mean don't try to physically overpower a girl, have some discipline. I haven't had a girlfriend in 10 years and been going to strip clubs the last 6 and I personally would never hurt a girl. You just have to get your priorities straight and the rules and laws of this country. Everyone has rights. I would never traumatize some girl for a criminal act of violence. Your rant should be about society and the objectification of women maybe. Some men want to be women and don't have a vagina so they like the male anatomy up the bum. If you look into sense of self and society in the world today I have seen men and women who were "curious" about their sexuality being labeled mentally ill . The answer might not be blurring the lines between man and women but more responsibility and respect for everyone. And a world where criminal acts don't happen anymore by horny kids or terrorists or deviants.

On a side note, the guy who I was talking about was supposedly straight and because everyone in the hospital was making fun of him and found out his "secret" got frisky one night and I woke up with a horrible disgusting taste in my mouth. I made myself vomit and brushed my teeth a good three times but because my dad was just sent to Rykers island and upstate to Fishkill prison I practiced self restraint and didn't hit him. You get a year for assault in a hospital with a bunch of witnesses.

I believe that everyone should have their rights respected and no one should ever trespass. I was so grossed out I started cutting myself on stage with my online friends and tried to goat the kid into a fight by calling him super gay.

I am ruggart had a beard for fifteen years since I grew one and believe that we shouldn't blur the lines between masculine and feminine but maybe take more self control when dealing with raging hormones. I don't men to kill your thread , just took it very personally when you were talking about masculine and feminine.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: johndeere2020

Sure there is nothing wrong with compassion. It just bothers me when i feel something is unjust, i.E. my feelings get used to feed the ego of someone who could have known better. And i feel with and respect everybody who is accepting danger in order to help someone else. There are a lot of men doing that too, you know? Being compassionate and helpfull.
And even the girliest female would become an aggressive predator if it is to defend their loved ones. How can that be a bad thing?

I did say in my earlier post that justice is a base feminine nature. So acting in defense and pursuing justice in any means (not for the sake of retaliation) is still feminine.

The base feminine nature had nothing to do with nail polish, makeup, and clothes - these are stereotypes. Base masculine nature had nothing to do with fixing cars which is also a stereotype. Most modern men in fact, doesn't even know how to change the oil of their cars by themselves or read sparkplugs, most can't even correct a rear wheel skid, how to wire stuff.

Society in most part have convinced most people what a woman and a man are not, against their very natures.

a reply to: letmeon

Sorry about your experiences, and I admire your courage for sharing them.

But gay men are still men. You don't hear as much women involved in sexual assaults as the perpetrators than gay men. Sexual assaults where the victims are males are still masculine in nature. If women did it, it means they succumbed to the masculine nature.

Look I'm not blaming men as much as the masculine nature. I was clear enough in my OP and a few threads down. It's the nature of men I'm after (not the men themselves).

Men and gay men could control these powerful urges that makes the do harmful urges but often, it is not enough. In the absence or breakdown of laws like nations in civil wars or being invaded, all hell breaks lose and it's rape-palooza for men of all ages which we here in news as atrocities which the perpetrators are nearly all men not just from the soldiers but also from the non-combatant civilians.

Self-control is obviously not enough. We need to do something about the laws. Ban child and all forms of pornography for starters like Iceland did. Ban prostitution. Ban steamy images of women in articles not for women. Ban half naked women in promoting cars for example..

We need the raise the bar for the respect of women and not allow society, the mass media freely portray them as eye candy for the promotion of their products.

And as for gay men predators and male victims of sexual assaults, we also need to raise the bar in prosecuting the perpetrators to take their cases seriously, not as a joke.

Lower the prosecution age for males too. Males reach sexual awareness at an earlier age. And lots of sexual assaults by "underage" boys go unprosecuted. That is not justice.

originally posted by: johndeere2020

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: johndeere2020

Sure there is nothing wrong with compassion. It just bothers me when i feel something is unjust, i.E. my feelings get used to feed the ego of someone who could have known better. And i feel with and respect everybody who is accepting danger in order to help someone else. There are a lot of men doing that too, you know? Being compassionate and helpfull.
And even the girliest female would become an aggressive predator if it is to defend their loved ones. How can that be a bad thing?

I did say in my earlier post that justice is a base feminine nature. So acting in defense and pursuing justice in any means (not for the sake of retaliation) is still feminine.

The base feminine nature had nothing to do with nail polish, makeup, and clothes - these are stereotypes. Base masculine nature had nothing to do with fixing cars which is also a stereotype. Most modern men in fact, doesn't even know how to change the oil of their cars by themselves or read sparkplugs, most can't even correct a rear wheel skid, how to wire stuff.

Society in most part have convinced most people what a woman and a man are not, against their very natures.

And it is hard for me not to notice the very masculine username.

John Deere is a tractor and farm implement brand, which are used primarily by male farmers, who are masculine. So what gives with the masculine username?

a reply to: WarminIndy

This thread is based on false premise and as such, simply makes no sense.

I am also a woman of an abrahamic religion and I LOVE being a woman. I am not put down, nor stomped on, but loved and protected and cared for.. by a man who most resembles a wolf..

I used to raise wolves, I think most don't understand the nature of the wolf; they are highly intelligent, fiercely loyal, will protect even at the cost of their life and are excellent providers - they also stay with you and only you for life - most people don't understand at all what an alfa male really is..



P.S. I also love victoria secrets.. am i kicked out of the sisterhood?

hahahaha

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: WarminIndy

This thread is based on false premise and as such, simply makes no sense.

I am also a woman of an abrahamic religion and I LOVE being a woman. I am not put down, nor stomped on, but loved and protected and cared for.. by a man who most resembles a wolf..

I used to raise wolves, I think most don't understand the nature of the wolf; they are highly intelligent, fiercely loyal, will protect even at the cost of their life and are excellent providers - they also stay with you and only you for life - most people don't understand at all what an alfa male really is..



P.S. I also love victoria secrets.. am i kicked out of the sisterhood?

hahahaha

LOL, nope, you are not kicked out of the sisterhood.

I don't know about this wolf and sheep concept of the OP, it's very strange to me. The problem is, misogyny doesn't need a religion as the OP first stated and then veered off by saying it is a societal problem.

P.S. As long as your wolfman loves you in the Victoria's Secret.