Did Japanese ISIS hostage travel to Syria after suffering a breakdown?

shadows you say ?????????????



are you going to tell me that that ^ is photoshopped too ?????????????????????????

source

take off your tinfoil hats and try stepping out into the real world

i sometimes dispair at what passes for " evidence " on ATS these days

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
shadows you say ?????????????

are you going to tell me that that ^ is photoshopped too ?????????????????????????

source

take off your tinfoil hats and try stepping out into the real world

i sometimes dispair at what passes for " evidence " on ATS these days

You're using THAT photo as a comparison?.. Nice try, but there is nothing wrong with the shadows in it. All is normal, unlike the obvious problems with the OP's photo.

soulwaxer

a reply to: soulwaxer

you really need to go back to who ever gave you " a degree in photography " and demand a refund

hint - look at the head of the princess and the girl with the book

next GO OUTSIDE

despite your rabid delusions - shadows in the real world are not paralel

this is caused by terain and paralax

a reply to: LionOfGOD

The guy on the right's shadow isn't at the same angle as the others. Why, one could ask. Was he photoshopped in? Is this fake?

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
shadows you say ?????????????

are you going to tell me that that ^ is photoshopped too ?????????????????????????

source

take off your tinfoil hats and try stepping out into the real world

i sometimes dispair at what passes for " evidence " on ATS these days

There's nothing wrong with the shadows in this picture - the "princess" has her head bowed forward and so has shadows on her chest. All the shadows make the same degree of angle from the direction of the sun. A normal picture, in other words.

The Japanese hostage picture however has a completely in-studio look, from a point source of light that was clearly much closer and in between the two hostages, resulting in shadows on opposite sides of their faces. It's unnatural and clearly NOT from the sun. There have been other debates elsewhere of green screen artifacts that are a dead give-away this photo is a studio production and NOT something taken outdoors.

I find the fact their mental health was questionable very enlightening. It makes me wonder if they didn't fall into the clutches of a CIA/Saudi/Mossad covert unit that set them up to become "hostages," in their ongoing game called the "war on terror."

a reply to: CX

Yeah, but this isn't on the moon. So, it's sunshine and/or klieg lights?

a reply to: pez1975

Guys like Jihadi John don't deserve jail or a quick death... They deserve one of the slowest, most painful deaths known to man, and when he's on the brink of death - we need doctors to bring him back to health, where then we can begin torturing this waste of life again...and again... and again....

I don't believe these terrorists like Jihadi John are humans, so they shouldn't be treated like one, they should be treated like creatures from the pits of hell (which they are)...

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: soulwaxer

you really need to go back to who ever gave you " a degree in photography " and demand a refund

hint - look at the head of the princess and the girl with the book

next GO OUTSIDE

despite your rabid delusions - shadows in the real world are not paralel

this is caused by terain and paralax

My degree is a Master in Photography from one of the best art schools in Europe. And judging from how you spell, it's doubtful that you ever made it past high school.

terain = terrain
paralax = parallax
ambivilent (your mood on your avatar) = ambivalent

What a joke you are.

soulwaxer

I find it very disrespectful that the media would publish this type of personal information about hostages.

originally posted by: LukeDAP
I find it very disrespectful that the media would publish this type of personal information about hostages.

Unfortunately, the media never does what's "right", but instead they want the most views or site clicks....

Have a look at the same photo on a Belgian news site:

www.demorgen.be...

Notice where they cropped it...

soulwaxer

ETA: also notice under the photo: it says "The Japanese hostages in a video from IS"...

a reply to: jhn7537

I know... it's disgusting, but, sadly, it happens so often that most of us are used to it already.

There's journalism and there's "the media". Nowadays, almost all of then "information" out there comes from "the media". Journalism is pretty rare.

Anyway, sorry for the OT. This just really upset me.

Unfortunately, they've probably been dead since Sept.

originally posted by: cfnyaami
a reply to: CX

Yeah, but this isn't on the moon. So, it's sunshine and/or klieg lights?

As I said...I know....but if you read the second part of what I posted, the article said this...

"This leads to non-parallel shadows even on objects which are extremely close to each other, and can be observed easily on Earth wherever fences or trees are found."

So firstly, it now mentions being the same on Earth, and when objects that are extremely close together like fences or trees......or I just thought maybe things as close as a terrorist and two hostages side by side?

See why I thought it could be the case here too?

Probably my fault for using a moon article as an example, it's just that it says about it being the same on earth too. Apologies for any confusion.

CX.

The photo is obviously a studio productions any 10 grade art student could see the shadows are wrong there is no need to even debate the photo anymore at this point im no photo expert but i was an art student and the shadows are wrong the man on the right was shopped into the photo plain and simple why is what we should be asking.

originally posted by: pez1975
The photo is obviously a studio productions any 10 grade art student could see the shadows are wrong there is no need to even debate the photo anymore

Apart from the shadows, which it seems can happen like this in some circumstances, what else shows it is obviously photoshoped?

I'm not doubting you, I really don't know much about photoshop if anything. Only time I can tell is when it is an extremely amateur job....similar to what I would probably produce if I tried the same.

CX.

originally posted by: pez1975
a reply to: rokkuman

That would be FLORA DRURY.

Courtesy of www.dailymail.co.uk...

Have you seen the latest on Daily Mail? Someone claiming to be a friend of one of the men, claims he used to be a hostage but earned his own freedom when the Japanese Government wouldn't pay his ransom.

Muslim Japanese Journalist Denied Right To Negotiate For Hostages Freedom

Kosuke Shamil Tsuneoka, who claims to have developed deep contacts within ISIS, appeared on Japanese television to say he is willing to step in and negotiate on the hostages behalf.

However, he says the authorities refuse to speak to him as he may be prosecuted under Japanese terrorist laws after being stopped from travelling to Syria last year.

Police are said to allege he was planning to escort one young would-be jihadist to the country - a charge he denies.

The journalist, who converted to Islam, has faced criticism after he was pictured holding a gun in front of the ISIS flag - a picture which he described as nothing more than an 'amusing souvenir'.

Tsuneoka offered the Japanese government help dealing with ISIS on a post on his Google Plus page on Wednesday and again at a press conference in Tokyo on Thursday.

'Despite being detained illegally by Tokyo police and suffering a house search, I am willing to cooperate with the foreign office and even the police for the purpose of rescuing Japanese hostages,' he said.

But Tsuneoka, who converted to Islam about 15 years ago and is one of the only journalists who have been allowed in to report from inside the caliphate, has warned he will only be able to negotiate if the Japanese authorities give him 'space'.

He is now calling on the Japanese government to appoint him and leading Japanese Muslim professor Hassan Nakata to negotiate a settlement over the two Japanese hostages.

The two claim to have built trust by using the Muslim network and offering humanitarian aid.

'Myself and Mr Nakata are eligible for such negotiations because until last October, we had been communicating each with a direct subordinate (executive) under the delegate in charge of kidnapping Mr Yukawa. At that time, they told us that, they will not request ransom or either display execution of hostage,' he said - although he did not say why ISIS commanders changed their minds about the ransom.

Tsuneoka - who was kept captive for five months in Afghanistan in 2010 - was also highly critical of the way in which Japan handles hostage negotiations.

'I know enough about this type of ransom demand,' he told TBS. 'I was also kidnapped before in Afghanistan.

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Now I don't know how legit this guy is, or if he is serious about negotiating, or just looking for a way to get his passport back so he CAN travel to Syria. Interesting nonetheless.

OK folks, looks like someone in the Japanese/Asian news media picked up on the obvious anomalies in the photo. They've done a very good analysis:

news.asiaone.com...

Now: The question, as another member asked before me, is WHY? Why risk making such an obvious mistake? We are talking about a 200 million dollar deal here. Would you make the huge extra effort of a studio production when you are in a war zone, with predator drones hunting you down? Just so you have 2 Japanese men instead of 1 in your video op?

It really helps to think this one through: If these 2 Japanese men were at different locations (why else would you photoshop one into your photo?) you would need some good coordinating to get all the pieces together for the video. And remember, this photo appeared only 3 days after Japan paid 200 million dollars for the fight against IS. Those IS fighters sure have their # together (besides the bad video-editing job).

The only conclusion I am left with is that this is WESTERN propaganda, hollywood style like 9/11. And perfectly in line with everything else that has happened since.

soulwaxer

a reply to: soulwaxer

It doesn't really matter. Either they have them or they dont. The military will figure out if one is dead or geld at a different local or if it was shot with studio lights and the back added.

It only mattera if someone is implying the whole thing is fake and thats dumb.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

May not be in studio could simply be the one with abnormal shadows was shopped in because hes at a different locale or dead.